Go, Go Go

[roy_miami]

Really? Picking and choosing SOME of my words to post something sarcastic? How about read all of it. While you don't agree with me, I think I make a pretty good argument that I am correct. And I'm not going out of my way to be a smartass to do it. I tried to end this debate, then we have people like you who just want to to try to amp it up with BS like this because you have nothing constructive or intelligent to add.

I glanced it over and its the same BS theory you've posted 100 times already. You have yet to answer how you think its possible to react to a snap count in an instant and not react to it if its a fake.

 

[finomenal]

He said trivial.

 

[Dolfan23]

I glanced it over and its the same BS theory you've posted 100 times already. You have yet to answer how you think its possible to react to a snap count in an instant and not react to it if its a fake.

That's not possible but the problem is we haven't run any fakes yet with a GO GO that ends up being play action and we don't run draws off of GO. So far I can only even remember one play where we passed from a GO GO but it was basically a WR screen if I remember correctly.

 

[DuderinoN703]

This is what I'm talking about exactly. When the d line hears GO, they KNOW they can bum rush us with no regards given to protecting the rushing lanes. PERIOD. There is no discussion or argument. They simply know that they can just go straight for the passer. It absolutely does make a difference. There is no getting around it.

I still disagree with this. They hear GO and the ball is snapped immediately after. There is no possible reaction time to gain an advantage. I'll repeat my earlier comment too:

I like how SCall thumbs up what you said as if it validates his point. What you're not understanding is that Miami is 13th in the league with a 4.1 yard per carry average and they have run the fourth least amount of running plays in the league. So....logic would say that if they ran the ball 5 more times a game, they'd add on 20 more yards a game to their total numbers. Or 7 more times, 10 more times, etc.

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Sorry but I cannot agree.

Speaking from a law enforcement perspective, if I am in front of a suspect and I am watching out for the Go and Go Go as to whether he draws a gun on me, you better believe I have the reaction time to get the drop on him first.

Now, professional football players, who are supposed to be the best of the best athletes, I fully expect them to have great reaction times as well. Of course, it will always depend on the individual but ANY advantage is still just that, an advantage.

We're not talking about playing Crack Shot like Marty McFly did in Back to the Future II. You aren't having someone in front of you whose only job is to make sure you stay away from the quarterbacl.

The situations aren't similar at all in my humble opinion.

 

[DuderinoN703]

Its funny how some of you (mostly the ones that never played actual football) dont think this makes a huge difference but myself who played safety (albeit not very good) and the other gentleman who played LB'er both insist that knowing if a run vs pass was coming would make all the difference in the world. For the simpletons that cant get that, it is due to the missteps that get taken while trying to decipher run vs pass. Usually when it is a pass you are backpedaling/looking for receivers. Usually when it is a run you dart to the running back. As a safety it is a cardinal sin to get beat deep. You therefore start off by backpedaling while you try to decipher run vs. pass. Not having to do this is the difference between getting to the RB at the line of scrimmage or getting to the RB after he has 5-10 yards of steam. Anyone who cant understand how that would be a huge advantage is a loss cause. All I can say is go try to play safety (or LBer as the other guy confirmed) and then you will see what we are talking about.

How do you know none of played football? Because it wasn't the first thing we stated as if it means our opinion is better than someone else's?

 

[SCall13]

PRIME example right there. The DLINE KNEW that GO was a pass and it made it an easy sack. I know I'm right about it.

The opposing defense is ALL OVER IT. Our running game has a LITTLE more of an advantage because they don't know where we're running. But when it comes to the pass, it's just go get him. Horrible.

 

[finomenal]

That's not possible but the problem is we haven't run any fakes yet with a GO GO that ends up being play action and we don't run draws off of GO. So far I can only even remember one play where we passed from a GO GO but it was basically a WR screen if I remember correctly.

I've seen a play action pass after GO. That was last week.

 

[CamWakeForest]

Go go

 

[Dolfan23]

I've seen a play action pass after GO. That was last week.

Show me the play. I watch for this every single play and haven't seen it. Not saying it's impossible I've missed it but please let me know the time of the game when that happened.

 

[finomenal]

Show me the play. I watch for this every single play and haven't seen it. Not saying it's impossible I've missed it but please let me know the time of the game when that happened.

I don't know exactly when it was and I don't have the game recorded.

 

[Dolfan23]

I don't know exactly when it was and I don't have the game recorded.

I'm pretty sure the play you're talking about was the WR screen that we ran, not a play action pass. I could be wrong but like I said I've watched for this every game of the season and usually watch the games at least twice a week.

 

[finomenal]

I'm pretty sure the play you're talking about was the WR screen that we ran, not a play action pass. I could be wrong but like I said I've watched for this every game of the season and usually watch the games at least twice a week.

It was definitely a play action pass.

 

[Dolfan23]

It was definitely a play action pass.

No, it definitely wasn't. But feel free to be entitled to your opinion.

 

[DuderinoN703]

134 yards on 19 carries in the first half. If the defense knows to run defend when Tannehill says GO GO, shouldn't Miami not have so many yards?

 

[DuderinoN703]

PRIME example right there. The DLINE KNEW that GO was a pass and it made it an easy sack. I know I'm right about it.

The opposing defense is ALL OVER IT. Our running game has a LITTLE more of an advantage because they don't know where we're running. But when it comes to the pass, it's just go get him. Horrible.

How can Miami have 197 yds of offense (only 9 pass attempts) if the cadence is such a giveaway?