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Good for you, Ricky. Now think playoffs.

When I saw who wrote this thread I got excited about a soon-to-be-released news flash. Not to say I was disappointed, just... I don't know, got my hopes up.
I think you make a great point, PressCoverage.
 
PressCoverage said:
I, for one, would like nothing better this season than for Ricky and Ronnie to lead the Dolphins deep into the playoffs... And lower a "truck stick" shoulder into all the loudmouths who ripped him for every exaggerated issue .... From the ganja to the "loyalty"...

I do hope those negative threads are still available... When he starts punishing defenders in October, I'll have some research to do to find them.....

so all you really want, now that you think Ricky has "recovered" and become trustworthy and won't let you down, is to hunt down the "haters" and rub it in everyones face? as I recall, the "haters" only responded to the butholes who think EVERYONE will be sucking his diick as soon as he gets 150 yards in a game. It was the lovers who insulted the integrety of the haters by insisting that we would ALL change our lifetime views because of production. We did not create thread after thread attacking those with opposing views. I have been told by f-n teenagers that "you cannot be a REAL fan" if you do not love Ricky(sell your personal values and embrace this quitter). The only thing that will really validate those with the "winning is everything" attitude is for us that view this as a moral value issue to whaffle and cave in to your viewpoint. Two thousand yards won't do it, only an capitulation by those viewing from a values "standpoint". Only an admission of "you are right, my moral values are for sale just like you" will bring satisfaction. Bring a box lunch boys I ain't changin'. My decision on how I feel about this whacko has nothing to do with his production and the story is not finished. I wish him well as a human being and I certainly recognize how stubborn I am on this but at my age my values are not likely to change and they are not for sale. He quit on his team mates and is still a POS in my opinion. I can and will root for the number, but not the guy wearing it.
 
cnc66 said:
so all you really want, now that you think Ricky has "recovered" and become trustworthy and won't let you down, is to hunt down the "haters" and rub it in everyones face? as I recall, the "haters" only responded to the butholes who think EVERYONE will be MOD EDIT as soon as he gets 150 yards in a game. It was the lovers who insulted the integrety of the haters by insisting that we would ALL change our lifetime views because of production. We did not create thread after thread attacking those with opposing views. I have been told by f-n teenagers that "you cannot be a REAL fan" if you do not love Ricky(sell your personal values and embrace this quitter). The only thing that will really validate those with the "winning is everything" attitude is for us that view this as a moral value issue to whaffle and cave in to your viewpoint. Two thousand yards won't do it, only an capitulation by those viewing from a values "standpoint". Only an admission of "you are right, my moral values are for sale just like you" will bring satisfaction. Bring a box lunch boys I ain't changin'. My decision on how I feel about this whacko has nothing to do with his production and the story is not finished. I wish him well as a human being and I certainly recognize how stubborn I am on this but at my age my values are not likely to change and they are not for sale. He quit on his team mates and is still a POS in my opinion. I can and will root for the number, but not the guy wearing it.

Geesh, a little harsh, don't ya think? You make it sound like he MOD EDIT, then left em. He quit his JOB because he wasn't happy for whatever reason. It doesn't really matter why, he just wasn't happy. It's unfortunate that his decision affected so many people, but he needed to do whats best for Ricky, not you or his teammates. Don't be so closed-minded. You not in his shoes and you don't know what you would have done if you were. You can say, 'Well I would have quit earlier or after the season', but in actuality you cannot know what you would've done unless you can see things from Ricky' perspective.

I think you could get your point across without being vulgar. - mod
 
What ever your opinion is about RW really doesn't matter at all. (Whether good or bad) Just because someone can't forgive him for what he did........SO WHAT!!!! Just because you forgive the guy or never got mad to begin with.......SO WHAT!!!! We are Dolphin fans people and thats all that matters to me. I could care less if you like Ricky or not and that goes for every player on the team. The Dolphins were here before Ricky and they will be here after he is gone. I just get so tired of seeing people argue over something that really doesn't matter at all. Can't we all just get along and stop the "I told you so" crap. Put on your jersey, grab a beer(soda if you are under 21), tune into the game, and cheer your team on. Be it 34 or 23 it doesn't matter to me because it's still the Dolphins on the field.
 
clownfish said:
Geesh, a little harsh, don't ya think? You make it sound like he MOD EDIT, then left em. He quit his JOB because he wasn't happy for whatever reason. It doesn't really matter why, he just wasn't happy. It's unfortunate that his decision affected so many people, but he needed to do whats best for Ricky, not you or his teammates. Don't be so closed-minded. You not in his shoes and you don't know what you would have done if you were. You can say, 'Well I would have quit earlier or after the season', but in actuality you cannot know what you would've done unless you can see things from Ricky' perspective.


I agree the guy was a little harsh, but i can see alot of what he is saying. I love to watch Ricky play, I think he is one if not the best back in the league right now when his head and heart is in the game. I would agree with you that we are not in his shoes, saying that....RW is one selfish and confused person who quit at the wrong time on his team. I respect guys like Zach, JT, Surtain, Madison etc. who stuck it out when things were at there worst. If ricky comes in and rushes for 1500 yards....great, if he quits again....great.
 
I am about 20 years older than Ricky, which makes me much older than most of the people posting on this board, so I may have a different perspective on Ricky's life.

First, Ricky is young and still maturing. Trust me, it can take years for some people to truly find themselves. I'm actually grateful that I was able to share Ricky's trials and tribulations - it makes me think of him as a real person, not just another jock or sports commodity.

I think Ricky felt trapped by his predicament with drugs last year which led to frustration. Ricky did what most of us do when we feel frustrated, he escaped. Yes, I also believe that he saw the situation here as hopeless, but we tend to forget that when it comes to playing football, Ricky has always been a winner.

How many athletes have been so honest and open that we are afforded a look inside their lives and the real challenges and struggles they face? Not many. Say what you want about Ricky...at least we are getting the unedited, genuine version of a real person who struggles with fame, fortune, success, and his own personal demons.

Athletes rarely make good role models. They are typically insulated from the real world by greedy agents and overprotective coaches who set them up to be irresponsible, selfish adults. Most athletes stop maturing at about 16 years old and live their lives as overgrown children seeking self-gratification and constant attention (see Terrell Owens).

Ricky is not without blemishes, but he is a fresh face in a made-up world of self-serving athletes. I'm glad he's back and I hope he finishes his career with the Dolphins. I don't expect him to be perfect, I just want him to be Ricky.
 
FinFan57 said:
Ricky is not without blemishes, but he is a fresh face in a made-up world of self-serving athletes. I'm glad he's back and I hope he finishes his career with the Dolphins. I don't expect him to be perfect.

agreed....
 
You know, it seems kind of odd that most of us are falling right back into place...so easily forgiving ricky's sins when we have some repenting to do too. If Ricky doesn't come back, then we've got 90% of FH's members still hating him and the other 10% not caring. Now that he is back, we're all running to be the best friend again...all because we know he can now help us. He's been working hard. He's been walking in line. He's been mentoring the younger guys. He's been productive in camp and games. So now we're all going back to our jersey collections and pulling it back out. The infamous 34. Hey I'm one of them. I'm just saying I feel a little hipocritical throwing all this support and love towards ricky when I know I was hating what he did last year. I never sent ill-feelings towards him as a person, but I wasn't for the guy at all. Now he's back and we're all like "Oh Ricky man...Never doubted you for a second...we all need a break sometime...glad you found yourself...Go Ricky!!" It just kind of makes me sick to see that kind of stuff when we haven't earned his love back. You don't think he knows that all the people who cheer him on were the same people who threw stones in his direction? I just feel guilty about the whole thing. Like we need to do something to show him that we forgive and we forget and...this is a big and...that we are sorry for what was said and done as well. Then we can root for him honestly, not "pharisee" like. Ya know? Or am I way off?
 
I didn't like ricky last year and I like him this year even less. I don't fall for his "great outlook on life" gimmick even for a second. His outlook is exactly what caused him to quite for reasons that seemed to change weekly. I don't care how well he can play, he's a disgrace of the miami uniform. While we are on it, so is McMichael.

There was just way to much Ricky love not to put in my two cents as balance. I realize this is just my opinion, an unpopular one, which I wanted to voice on the forum. Not intended to start trouble.
 
clownfish said:
Don't be so closed-minded. You not in his shoes and you don't know what you would have done if you were.

Why is that whenever someone disagrees they call the opposition close minded? I think it's either arrogance or insecurity. Is the thought that a perfectly objective logical mind could possibly have a different outlook then you just not possible. Or maybe simply intolerable that someone took a seemingly "higher road".

Huh...
 
cnc66 said:
so all you really want, now that you think Ricky has "recovered" and become trustworthy and won't let you down, is to hunt down the "haters" and rub it in everyones face? as I recall, the "haters" only responded to the butholes who think EVERYONE will be sucking his diick as soon as he gets 150 yards in a game. It was the lovers who insulted the integrety of the haters by insisting that we would ALL change our lifetime views because of production. We did not create thread after thread attacking those with opposing views. I have been told by f-n teenagers that "you cannot be a REAL fan" if you do not love Ricky(sell your personal values and embrace this quitter). The only thing that will really validate those with the "winning is everything" attitude is for us that view this as a moral value issue to whaffle and cave in to your viewpoint. Two thousand yards won't do it, only an capitulation by those viewing from a values "standpoint". Only an admission of "you are right, my moral values are for sale just like you" will bring satisfaction. Bring a box lunch boys I ain't changin'. My decision on how I feel about this whacko has nothing to do with his production and the story is not finished. I wish him well as a human being and I certainly recognize how stubborn I am on this but at my age my values are not likely to change and they are not for sale. He quit on his team mates and is still a POS in my opinion. I can and will root for the number, but not the guy wearing it.



dont be such a baby ffs


convert or die
 
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.

Mahatma Gandhi


Now get over it, and watch some damn football.
 
Scrap said:
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.

Mahatma Gandhi


Now get over it, and watch some damn football.

Forgiveness has nothing to do with accepting. I can forgive you if you punch me in face, but I don't have to be your friend. Your boss can forgive you for stealing from the company, but you are still fired. And I hold no ill-will towards ricky, I just wish he wasn't a miami dolphin.
 
I am supportive of ricky now, John Riggins took a year off and caught hell, then he became a super bowl MVP. Some of the things Rickyt is saying in his transcript is PC but it is also his way now of looking at things from a healthy internal standpoint. He understands it is not going to do him any good to do some freak show and to talk bad about anyone after doing what he did last year to the team.

I think what he did he regrets but at the same time, its what he needed to do for himself. Camping in India may have set his mind straight for the future. Would i put money on that he changed forever? no. I think he will prove himself in his own way in a new style and then get out of the game once his debts are paid. That is the big worry to me. How soon does he hang it up? I do not think he would do himself big favors by going to another team whos coach doesnt understand how to deal with him. I think it would be in his best interest to get another contract with us after this year that takes care of him for the short term and let him decide what he wants to do. This whole football thing is just a temporary deal for him to deal with his problems and face them instead of running away from them. I think he understands that now.
 
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