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Browns General Manager Phil Savage confirmed the Browns are in the hunt for Trent Green. Savage said the first step will be to see if Green is interested in joining the Browns and will then try to work out a contract. Finally compensation will be discussed with Kansas City. The Chiefs are looking for a low round draft pick for Green.
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With that in mind, lets say that deal happens and Trent Green goes to the Browns and he backs up Charlie Frye (or vice versa). That would secure their QB position (Ive even read the Browns are giving 3rd stringer Derek Anderson a shot at a starting job in offseason camp). No doubt that Mueller/Cam/Oshea want Brady Quinn. Its been said theyd be willing to trade up with the Redskins. So questions remain...
Does Quinn get past Raiders- Yes, Quinn doesnt fit the Al Davis type. Its either Russell or C. Johnson.
Does Quinn get past Lions- Hard to tell but IMO, Lions offense is set. They actually have a pretty good offense, recievers, QB, and RB are all good. So I say Lions do 1 of 3 things... Pick a defensive guy that would end up bein a reach, trade down and pickup Patrick Willis, or draft Joe Thomas.
Does Quinn get past Browns- As stated above, yes-They go with Adrian Peterson, or if hes gone, they go defense
Does Quinn get past Bucs- Yes, they have enough QBs. Calvin Johnson, if hes gone, they go defense
Does Quinn get past Cards- Yes, they have a potential franchise QB, Joe Thomas, if hes gone, they go defense
Does Quinn get past Redskins-Yes, Jason Campbell has a lot of potential and played well towards the end of the season. Theyre goin defense.
Does Quinn get past Vikes- I personally belive Vikes either go with Landry or Peterson here if hes even still on the board but Mueller probably wont wana test that, and will therefore trade picks with the Redskins, switching 1st and the second 2nd round pick acquired from the Pats ..(that pick wouldve probably been used to get Drew Stanton anyways, so not much of a waste).
 
Quinn might not be AL Davis type, but he could be Lane Kiffins type...
Im sorry, but Kitna is not what I would consider being good at the position...
The Browns need a QB bad, as bad as us...
If having enough QB means Simms and Garcia, I guess Im just crazy...
Cardinals and Redskins you seem to be on the money with..
And Tarvaris Jackson is not the answer in Minny...

There is almost a zero chance Quinn falls to 9, but its always nice to dream...
 
Quinn might not be AL Davis type, but he could be Lane Kiffins type...
Im sorry, but Kitna is not what I would consider being good at the position...
The Browns need a QB bad, as bad as us...
If having enough QB means Simms and Garcia, I guess Im just crazy...
Cardinals and Redskins you seem to be on the money with..
And Tarvaris Jackson is not the answer in Minny...

There is almost a zero chance Quinn falls to 9, but its always nice to dream...
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Al Davis runs the show in Oakland, not some new young coach.. Its Al Davis, always has been
Kitna isnt the greatest I agree, but hes serviceable, plus the fact that if Martz has a say on who to draft, which he probably does being the OC, Lions draft a QB in the late rounds or maybe they pickup an undrafted QB. Look at Martzs history with drafting QBs (Bulger, 6th round I think, Warner, undrafted I think)- plus Lions defense is whats messin them up, they can score pts
The Browns need a QB but Crennel needs to win NOW... so he gets Trent Green makin a nice open QB competition and they fix the Oline with Joe Thomas. Not to mention they JUST drafted Frye two years ago
If you think the Bucs are drafting Quinn, you're crazy, they may not have the best QBs on their roster but NO WAY they take Quinn
Vikings/Childress JUST drafted Tarvaris with a huuge reach in the 2nd and supposedly he believes Tarvaris is showing promise for the future. No way they draft a QB , plus Childress already stated hes content with his QBs and theres an open comp. for the starting job..
 
chada456 said:
With that in mind, lets say that deal happens and Trent Green goes to the Browns and he backs up Charlie Frye (or vice versa). That would secure their QB position (Ive even read the Browns are giving 3rd stringer Derek Anderson a shot at a starting job in offseason camp). No doubt that Mueller/Cam/Oshea want Brady Quinn. Its been said theyd be willing to trade up with the Redskins. So questions remain...
Does Quinn get past Raiders- Yes, Quinn doesnt fit the Al Davis type. Its either Russell or C. Johnson.
Does Quinn get past Lions- Hard to tell but IMO, Lions offense is set. They actually have a pretty good offense, recievers, QB, and RB are all good. So I say Lions do 1 of 3 things... Pick a defensive guy that would end up bein a reach, trade down and pickup Patrick Willis, or draft Joe Thomas.
Does Quinn get past Browns- As stated above, yes-They go with Adrian Peterson, or if hes gone, they go defense
Does Quinn get past Bucs- Yes, they have enough QBs. Calvin Johnson, if hes gone, they go defense
Does Quinn get past Cards- Yes, they have a potential franchise QB, Joe Thomas, if hes gone, they go defense
Does Quinn get past Redskins-Yes, Jason Campbell has a lot of potential and played well towards the end of the season. Theyre goin defense.
Does Quinn get past Vikes- I personally belive Vikes either go with Landry or Peterson here if hes even still on the board but Mueller probably wont wana test that, and will therefore trade picks with the Redskins, switching 1st and the second 2nd round pick acquired from the Pats ..(that pick wouldve probably been used to get Drew Stanton anyways, so not much of a waste).
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Best case would be Raiders picking CJ, then Browns are 99.99999% going to take Russell if Lions don't considering Savage's history with him. Then it's just Vikes and Lions to worry about, or just Vikes if Lions take Russell and Browns take Peterson. Lions I hope were still too scared from having Harrington and Vikes go D or we trade up to 6.
 
Browns should be much more concerned with giving Frye help, rather than just giving up on him.. Fryes had a bad oline, bad running game, although edwards is good, they dont have much else at the recieving position, and although their TE is good, hes injured a lot (cant remember his name at the moment)... all this means is that instead of giving up on Frye after 2 years, they just drafted the guy, why not give him help with a wall like Joe Thomas, or an amazing back to take some pressure off like Peterson, or the best reciever to come out in years in C Johnson.Browns are gonna have some options
 
You're the Lions GM, and you look at your team and you realize that you're offense isnt bad, yet you're defense is horrible. So whats with all this talk about them drafting offense. I think Lions suprise all and go with a guy like Gaines Adams, Jamal Anderson, Pat Willis, or Laron Landry. They may trade down in the process but it makes more sense for the Lions success for them to go defense in round 1 rather than offense.. If they did go offense however, I think they would hafta go C. Johnson first as hes insane but they may look at Joe Thomas as well , although they have signed a number of olinemen via FA.
 
Browns maybe would pass on him but Vikes have not a QB.......do you think that will pass on Quinn if still available ?????.......safeties and RB are not as crucial positions as QB, there will be a lot of very good Ss and RBs in the mid rounds.....we can forget Quinn and trade down
 
chada456 said:
You're the Lions GM, and you look at your team and you realize that you're offense isnt bad, yet you're defense is horrible. So whats with all this talk about them drafting offense. I think Lions suprise all and go with a guy like Gaines Adams, Jamal Anderson, Pat Willis, or Laron Landry. They may trade down in the process but it makes more sense for the Lions success for them to go defense in round 1 rather than offense.. If they did go offense however, I think they would hafta go C. Johnson first as hes insane but they may look at Joe Thomas as well , although they have signed a number of olinemen via FA.
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And this would fit into the trade down scenario/talk we have been hearing lately. Nothing trade down wise i dont think would happen til draft day because alot can happen from now til then.
 
A draft is MORE than just 1st round picks. Every team has 2 kinds of strategies on this, first day is for filling needs and strengthening the actual team in order to confront the coming season. Day two is for developing long term players.
There's so much pressure about picking the initial positions on the draft because of its cost, those newbies will become instant expensive player and in administrative and sportive issues they are handled as saviors of the team. Because of their high pricing, they become the "present" not the future.
So for a picking GM or HC (whichever its the case for that team), sometimes its a public relations job. The most popular call in football is and will always be to enroll a QB college star. As Russell won over Quinn in the Sugar Bowl, his image of winner becomes likely to the fan base and that's the main reason that Quinn's stock felt down on most mock drafts.
But as Detroit picks second they have four powerful options.
A) Pick a major new face for the lions' cage. If the rumor about CJ to Raiders deal is true, they may pick Russell, else they would get the best player in the draft by picking CJ. This would be the smartest thing to do, but WR has been a very deficient call in Detroit's draft history.
B) Otherwise, if Russell is gone and they assume that WR are risky business, they may trade down. Many teams have targeted a need and this would look very tentative. The trade cost may become unlikely for us, but if Cam can deal more late picks, then the phrase "the price is right" may fit.
C) If nobody can deal with the trading price, they may hold Quinn as trading bait or popular call among their fans whose memory can forgive the Joey experiment.
D) If both WR and QB ghosts come to mind, they'll upgrade RB or any defensive place.

Minnesota is the real deal for Brady Quinn because even they used a day one pick on Tarvaris Jackson, they can't pass on such a player as Quinn, maybe the Quinn pick meaning a Jackson trading/cutting, but it's no mystery that Vikings what to enroll the best player available, because they can handle rebuilding for another season (their fan base have showed they're very patient, unlike us).

This way, if Detroit doesn't pick Quinn, Trend Green signs with Cleveland, and nobody else trades up in order to pick BQ, our option is to trade up before Minnesota in order to pick him, else we may be looking for a young QB in round 2.
 
Cam-Mul was not being too interested in Carr, I mean not even courting him.
Cam-Mul seems to be nonchalant about Green.
Are they satisfied with CPep and whomever they draft ?? It appears that way to me. Why wouldn't they be more proactive in acquiring someone if they felt that CPep couldn't make it back ??

Sure, Green is still a possibility and may yet come to fruition. Perhaps they are waiting KC out, but even if he does, the signs from Cam-Mul point to him being CPeps backup, not a starter here...
 
When Brady Quinn gets picked in the early 1st round, the background noise in Miami will be that of air rushing out of a balloon.
 
jason8er said:
When Brady Quinn gets picked in the early 1st round, the background noise in Miami will be that of air rushing out of a balloon.
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Quinn, Quinn Quinn already, Whta makes Brady Quinn such a hot ticket? I don't think that he's any better than Drew stanton, pay les money and get Stanton in the second round, the dolphins need a playmaker on that offense.
 
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