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Good post on Jordan Phillips from a chiefs fan that knows him. Via reddit

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A Chiefs fan came into the Dolphins subreddit and shared some good info on our second round pick. Thought you guys would enjoy.

I've known Jordan for years. My wife and his foster father work together and we've been friends with the family since forever. First off, the stories about his insane athleticism - the backflips, the 360 dunks, the outrunning cars on dirt roads? They don't even tell the half of it. Yeah, I've seen him do standing backflips. It's nothing for him, he can do it with as much effort as you and I put into tying our shoes. I've seen him walk 50 feet on his hands. I once saw him throw my 160 lb son up and over an 8ft high deck railing into a swimming pool on the other side (damn kids, we're trying to have a 4th of July cookout here!). Even by freakish athlete standards he's a freak. He's like Paul Bunyan, if Paul Bunyan had the agility of a jaguar and the balance of a ballerina. Literally everything sports related is easy for him.
And it's always been easy for him, and that's where the questions about his motor and dedication come from. You have to understand where he's from. His dad's a career criminal, him mom died when he was 2. He was raised by his grandparents for a while, and then his white, small town foster family. He's been the biggest person in the room since he was 12. He's always looked different than anyone else he knew. He went to highschool in Towanda Kansas, a tiny little dustbowl town outside of Wichita. It's one stoplight, one gas station village. Half the kids Jordan went to school with lived on farms. It's the kind of place where they still talk about that one time ten years ago when Joey Bryant almostdunked it in that game against Andale.
Imagine the Hulk fighting a bunch of gawky 5'9" suburban teenagers...that was what it was like to watch Jordan play football in high school. He played everywhere: linebacker, offensive line, defensive line, running back, tight end, punter, kicker, all of it. And it was always easy.
So, he never learned how to compete. He never learned how to challenge himself and improve. And he's never had an aggressive mentality. He's quiet and reserved and meticulously polite. He's the kind of guy that would rather hang out at home with his fiancee and play video games than go to the club.
He didn't always get the kind of coaching he could have at OU, and the team didn't have the kind of leaders that would have brought out the best in him. And when he hurt his back and needed surgery, it scared him. He'd probably never even felt pain before. And he really should have stayed in college another year. So he's coming into the league...well, not at his best.
Will he make it? I don't know. He's a great kid, and he's almost superhuman physically. He could be the best 1-tech in the league in a few years. He could be as good as Dontari Poe by the end of this season, and I'm not even joking. I played college football, and spent a few years kicking around minor league baseball. I know what good athletes look like, and I've never ever seen anything like him. But he's not a competitor, and he has no killer instinct. I can't imagine two players more different in mental makeup than him and Suh.
I would not be surprised if he's an All Pro in three years. I would be equally unsurprised if he's out of football completely in three years. He is the very definition of boom or bust prospect. I do know if your coaches and players can find his motor and keep it switched on, the AFC East better watch the **** out.
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Hopefully Suh can help instill that killer instinct this guy says he lacks and can become the legit DT his athleticism suggests he can be.
 
To be honest this does not make me feel any better about the pick at all. Another unmotivated athletic freak...well well

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DefensiveEnd76 said:
Omar hates the pick of Phillips.
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hes not the only one. to be fair he wanted Perryman like everyone else
 
Kind of makes you wish Kacy Rodgers was still here.
 
Martel13 said:
To be honest this does not make me feel any better about the pick at all. Another unmotivated athletic freak...well well

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hes not the only one. to be fair he wanted Perryman like everyone else
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Given what we went through with Dion I can see how you'd feel that way. With that said though I think we need to give our FO the benefit of the doubt on this one. This is a Hickey pick not an Ireland one
 
Valandui said:
Kind of makes you wish Kacy Rodgers was still here.
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Kacy is a failure, our Dline got worse under him to the point it needed to be clensed of him and the players.
 
Good read. Thanks for sharing. Sounds very insightful and realistic as far as where he is as a player. We will have to wait and see where he goes from here. Hopefully Suh has some leadership in him to take this kid along for a ride. And Phillips can hopefully see the opportunity in front of him.
 
Right now I am not all that enamored with the pick. Personally I thought it could have been used better. Since we could have used it in areas we needed help in such as LB or OL. So his play may change my.mind about him . But right now it almost feels like when we drafted DJ . In which I hope this is a different situation.
 
He didn't walk 50 feet on his hands. The beginning of that post sounded like someone describing a sasquatch they saw. It's a really interesting read if true though. I think we can all agree it's a boom or bust pick. Which I think is a big risk to take with that pick. But with the right coaching, he could become something special. Too bad we definitely don't have the right coaching.
 
just like the rest of you...i will be rooting for him

sounds like a fascinating story and i look forward to following it to see how it plays out

thanks for posting
 
I think the kids more freakish on tape when you see what hes capable of then he tested...he can be straight up dominant...gets high when he tires...as a 2 down guy in a rotation we may get the best out of him...i saw him playing a lot on 3rd down even for oklahoma...hes probably the only 330 lb guy in the class that i think can legitimately get to the qb and hes maybe the best interior defender of working back into throwing lanes and getting a hand on the ball when he cant impact with the rush

Hes terrific talent but an underachiever given that...if miami gets it out of him we drafted a stud...if its just about a paycheck he will frustrate...be prepared for him to flash sick talent in the preseason games...he will wow you its just a matter of will you get it consistently
 
Phillips will not bust because he plays soundly, he pushes the pocket and uses hands, and in addition to that his athletic baseline is high. He will just get better with time.
 
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