Grantland: A Dolphin Tale

[WesternNYDolfan]

Five more to go...I don't getta read any of the links without 10 posts

Just go to Grantland.com

 

[WesternNYDolfan]

Some thought went into this article - thanks for posting it.

I always appreciate the use of statistics and I think that he supported his arguments pretty well in most cases. I think the argument for Moore was weak based on what he presented, though. In his own words Moore was an average starter and then without any real statistical backup he then declares that Moore is more (no pun intended) qualified to start than RT or especially DG.

I will look for more of this writer in the future.

During football season he usually writes 3-4 articles a week. He has great statistics, but sometimes he makes some kinda wacky opinions off of solid observations i.e. the Matt Moore thing

 

[Rev Kev]

You see again how the D totally shat the bed on Henne and the O - we have been preaching all off season Moore wasn't all that bad, but the dif to our run was the D getting in shape

 

[Rev Kev]

You're right ... it was Matt Moore AND the defense AND the running game.

Hater.

You don't get elected team MVP and get a name drop in Jason Taylor's locker room farewell speech unless you made some kind of impact.

Moore was the back up and is still the back up until he wins the competition - FACT

 

[Vaark]

I didn't miss it; that's his subjective opinion, but the numbers say the offense was as good with Chad Henne as it was with Matt Moore. It's not that I hate Matt Moore. He is an average QB, like Barnwell said in the article. I think many of us agreed that Henne was an average QB as well.

Guess it might not have occurred to you that the defense didn't magically improve but just might have turned around once Moore replaced an interception machine that either put them in terrible defensive field position or burdened them with too many fatiguing "three and outs" eh? Or that Marshall dropped around 5 of Matty's redzone/endzone breadbasket catches??

Moore may or may not be an avg QB.. what i do know is that under center he's outperformed his teams when not and that Henne has turned out to be a below average QB. So IMO, comparing them is less like "apples to apples" and more akin to "apples to lemons"

 

[Rev Kev]

Guess it might not have occurred to you that the defense didn't magically improve but just might have turned around once Moore replaced an interception machine that either put them in terrible defensive field position or burdened them with too many fatiguing "three and outs" eh? Or that Marshall dropped around 5 of Matty's redzone/endzone breadbasket catches??

Moore may or may not be an avg QB.. what i do know is that under center he's outperformed his teams when not and that Henne has turned out to be a below average QB. So IMO, comparing them is less like "apples to apples" and more akin to "apples to lemons"

Vk Henne ws spraying the ball over the field the openning games before he started to white knuckle - he started to white knuckle when he realized that the D couldn't sto a pop warner team missing it's three best players - agreed BM was a disaster with or without Henne

 

[Meaker]

10 posts...... now i can actually read the article

 

[where's th'fish]

Guess it might not have occurred to you that the defense didn't magically improve but just might have turned around once Moore replaced an interception machine that either put them in terrible defensive field position or burdened them with too many fatiguing "three and outs" eh? Or that Marshall dropped around 5 of Matty's redzone/endzone breadbasket catches??

Moore may or may not be an avg QB.. what i do know is that under center he's outperformed his teams when not and that Henne has turned out to be a below average QB. So IMO, comparing them is less like "apples to apples" and more akin to "apples to lemons"

It's not that it hadn't ocurred to me, Vaark, but the stats that Barnwell quoted for the defense (and offense) are not cumulative stats, or simply points. They're per-play stats measuring effectiveness and they take the specific circumstances of each down into account. Not only that, they also consider opponent strength. That's why they're so kick-ass.

The one thing you could say is that the defense felt more motivated and started playing better once Moore was named the starter. Oddly enough, the offense didn't. To be clear, DVOA does show Moore as having played a little bit better than Henne. But not by much.