Great QB not needed

[StLouisFinFan]

You may be right about not having to have the next Marino this year (we obviously don't have that), but to advance, even to have an above .500 season, you have to have a serviceable QB...the indications are that we may not have even that. Ferrotte, has the obvious inside track because of his connection with Linehan, not because he is any better than AJ or what AJ has shown so far. We WILL be worse off this year with Ferrotte at the helm than even last year ! We MAY be worse off with AJ at the helm, we just don't know that yet, although he seems to be leaning that way...

Face it, we are in trouble unless one of the QBs, even Berlin (which I cannot stand that guy...what he did to waste the 2 years of talent he was surrounded by at Miami is ashame), stands up and gets counted...Even though, right now, Ferrotte has the edge, I certainly hope Saban lets AJ take over and either improve or die out there than to let Ferrotte surely lead us into the dregs...

Unlike you I can't tell the future, yet I feel supremely confident that there is absolutely, positively no way on God's green Earth that this season could be any worse or even equal to last year. That was the definition of a season from hades. The only reason we weren't 0-16 is that we had legitemate talent on this team. So you think taking a solid, if unspectacular, QB and inserting him into an aggressive offense with which he is intiately familiar, and giving him a solid running game (I'm keeping my fingers crossed on that one), and a defense that dominates from time to time will put us even further into the NFL doledrums?

Oh, by the way, an FYI to Losman 7 and other Bills fans, with Larry on the board we don't need you anymore, we get all the negative banter we can handle from within our own house. Sorry fellas, maybe the Jets could use you. (no offense to Bills or Jets fans, of course).

 

[islandah]

Name a team that was a Super Bowl DYNASTY not a one hit wonder without a great QB.

There isn't one!

Exactly. You might sneak in one year on a fluke with a mediocre qb, but to be truly competitive and dominant for many years, you need a talented leader. What happened to Baltimore and Tampa the years following their SB wins? Back into the depths of mediocrity.

 

[Justasportsfan]

Oh, by the way, an FYI to Losman 7 and other Bills fans, with Larry on the board we don't need you anymore, we get all the negative banter we can handle from within our own house. Sorry fellas, maybe the Jets could use you. (no offense to Bills or Jets fans, of course).

but....but... :foundout:

 

[LarryFinFan]

Unlike you I can't tell the future, yet I feel supremely confident that there is absolutely, positively no way on God's green Earth that this season could be any worse or even equal to last year. That was the definition of a season from hades. The only reason we weren't 0-16 is that we had legitemate talent on this team. So you think taking a solid, if unspectacular, QB and inserting him into an aggressive offense with which he is intiately familiar, and giving him a solid running game (I'm keeping my fingers crossed on that one), and a defense that dominates from time to time will put us even further into the NFL doledrums?

Oh, by the way, an FYI to Losman 7 and other Bills fans, with Larry on the board we don't need you anymore, we get all the negative banter we can handle from within our own house. Sorry fellas, maybe the Jets could use you. (no offense to Bills or Jets fans, of course).

Hey...calm down...I wasn't being negative, just trying to be more realistic...I will also say that after watching the Jags game for a second time, I am a little more optimistic about the OL and the D overall. I still think that Gus will prove to be less than serviceable (probably AJ too, although I feel he has more upside even for this year than Gus). The Jags really got little pressure on Gus and he had a pretty good running game going for him.. AJ did not have those positives with the 2nd team, but those are the breaks and shame on AJ for not showing better. I am still prognosticating a less than spectacular season...Wanny and company left the shelves bare, but Saban is restocking quite well...I just don't think it's gonna happen this year...

 

[nick1]

but....but... :foundout:

nice buffalo avator, what is he chasing? his reflection?

 

[DaFish]

What you say is reasonable except for that. Marino was like the Van Gogh of quarterbacks, maybe one in a generation.

I agree. The closest thing to Marino today is Manning. QB's like that just don't come around every draft. We were lucky with Marino as the Colts are lucky to get Manning. Don't expect that to happen again soon.

 

[BlueFin]

To everyone who will waste 20 minutes writing about our qb situation, I offer this last piece of advice/opinion.

We don't need a great QB. And I'm not the only one who seems to think so.

Why did Saban draft Ronnie Brown instead of Braylon Edwards, or perhaps a top rated QB?

This has been established from day one as a rebuilding year, not a winning season. They know that the success of a team, as far as superbowls go, is their QB. But Sabans not looking at a SB. He'd be a fool if he was, inheriting a 4-12 team from Wanny.

Lets have a great running game (bringing back Ricky doesn't seem so far off now does it?) and lets pick up a buttload of Defensive players to prevent teams from destroying us.

Lets rework our line to be the best its ever been to protect our QB OR to open up holes for a monster running game

Saban's intention was to never have a consistent west coast style offense, where the QB threw every down for five or six yards. He wants to run those yards, open up the backfield, and have some playmakers make the DEEP bombs, hence our new Offensive coordinator who loooooves to go deep.

This year we'll have to be patient, and much like Bates who took over as Interim Coach, I believe Feeley/Frerotte will take over as Interim Quarterback. At least, until we can draft ourselves a young talent to mold into the next Marino.

Of course were not getting a great QB this year, we all know that, we couldn't get one if we wanted one right now, we have what we have.

But, we will need a much better QB than we have in the near future.

 

[Regina Phin]

I don't believe for a second that we would have drafted Ronnie if Alex Smith had fallen to number 2. Still, I think we could get by with average QB play, I just don't know that any of the QBs we have qualify as average.

 

[Canadianfishfan]

Sorry man, but you are dead wrong. Brady is a product of th system. Did you see what the patsies second string QB did against the Bungles last week? I think you could plug 1/2 the QB's in the league (excluding anybody on our roster of course) into that system and he would succeed. Brady wasn't touted coming out of college, he has had some breaks and has taken advantage of them, but he is far from being a top rate QB.

I agree somewhat... Brady still executes the gameplan. He plays smart, distributes the ball well...and keeps the "system" running up and down the field. Lets face it, Bledsoe didnt run the system very well.

 

[djfresh47]

Sorry man, but you are dead wrong. Brady is a product of th system. Did you see what the patsies second string QB did against the Bungles last week? I think you could plug 1/2 the QB's in the league (excluding anybody on our roster of course) into that system and he would succeed. Brady wasn't touted coming out of college, he has had some breaks and has taken advantage of them, but he is far from being a top rate QB.

Tom Brady is a HOF Qb, and while Manning has the numbers, Brady has the rings. Saying Tom Brady is not a top rate QB is garbage, he's a 1st ballot HOF guy, already, and if he wins another ring, he's gotta be considered one of the greatest Qb's of all-time, whether Dolfans wanna admit it or not.

 

[djfresh47]

Teams can't contend with average QB's in the NFL right now. The best example of this is the Bills last year, who had a great defense, one of the best special teams units in the league, but an inconsistent QB, and they couldn't make the playoffs. Baltimore is brought up from a few years ago as they won the SB with an average Qb, but then they went out and tried to upgrade the QB position that offseason, but it didn't work. Tampa Bay won the Sb with I believe Brad Johnson in a pro bowl season for him. If Baltimore doesn't contend it'll because Kyle Boller is average, and doesn't turn into a good QB. The best two teams in the AFC, IMO, Indy and New England have great QB's, the best two teams in the NFC, Philly and Minnesota, have great Qb's, but I guess people still think that bringing in an average QB will get a team far, but I can't buy into the notion. Untill the position is upgraded, and it needs to be very badly, I don't think the team can contend.