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OK let me go ahead and admit AJ looked pretty good with what little I saw tonight. Gus has not played well since being named the starter. He did look good in the 1st quarter, but his play dropped as the night went on.

I understand the idea that inFINS and some others throw in, about if the competition is close then AJ should start b/c he is slightly younger and has more upside, but until now I really have not thought the race has been close. However after the last two games I would have to say I would hate to be in Saban's position. Either way he goes with who to name as the opening day starter has a lot of downside and little upside. Gus still gives us the most chance to win IMO, but AJ is starting to show glimps of being decent. I still wonder about a lot of what I see in him, but I can now say that I wouldn't be totally disappointed if AJ gets the nod vs Denver. Gus had his chance to win the job tonight, and did more to lose it than to win it. (Although the one deep ball to CC should have been caught.) I do reserve the right to change my mind after getting to watch the game tomorrow, as I have had a beer or twelve and my opinions may be a little off. But from listening to it, it didn't sound good for Gus. :cry:
 
Think about it, you've seen a QB who's had to learn the system he's in..it's not like AJ has had two consevative years in a Miami Dolphan's system. We really don't know what he can do. But he has shown both years to be close to the starting QB's who knew the system while he's learning the system..this says that he will get better as he learns, just like toward the end of last year..If he plays and learn the O completely this year, he will probably be on fire next year, assuming we don't change system's again.
 
I don't see the point in rushing AJ to start. I liked what Gus did in the 1st QTR and I liked what AJ did when he got in there.

I'm not as down as some of you are with the QB situation. I like it, and I think we have two solid QB's. I'm not complaining either way.

IMO the deciding factor will be what the players think. Their trust for whichever QB will win out.
 
ohall said:
I don't see the point in rushing AJ to start. I liked what Gus did in the 1st QTR and I liked what AJ did when he got in there.

I'm not as down as some of you are with the QB situation. I like it, and I think we have two solid QB's. I'm not complaining either way.

IMO the deciding factor will be what the players think. Their trust for whichever QB will win out.

But wouldn't you think a QB who's been in this O for a long as Gus would outdistance one who's learning and less experienced NFL wise. I say AJ has up side..sure he'll struggle a little this year, but next year, he will be a force. As players always say it's the 2nd year when thing really click and they understand.
 
I know stats don't tell the full tail, but one look at Gus's this preseason will tell you all you need. Things just aren't working for him as a starter, and while I am glad we have an experienced backup, this obsession with Gus by Saban is going a little too far because he really hasn't shown the franchise would be better with him at the helm than AJ, and he had every chance to prove it.
 
MDFINFAN said:
But wouldn't you think a QB who's been in this O for a long as Gus would outdistance one who's learning and less experienced NFL wise. I say AJ has up side..sure he'll struggle a little this year, but next year, he will be a force. As players always say it's the 2nd year when thing really click and they understand.

Yup you all make a goodpoint with that, but at the same time Gus was playing against the starters and AJ was not.

Like I said I like our QB situation.
 
MDFINFAN said:
Think about it, you've seen a QB who's had to learn the system he's in..it's not like AJ has had two consevative years in a Miami Dolphan's system. We really don't know what he can do. But he has shown both years to be close to the starting QB's who knew the system while he's learning the system..this says that he will get better as he learns, just like toward the end of last year..If he plays and learn the O completely this year, he will probably be on fire next year, assuming we don't change system's again.

You really can't use that arguement about last year. We started a new system last year, so both AJ AND Jay had to learn new systems. Jay clearly beat out AJ. Now this year Aj should have better awareness being around the recievers for a year, while Gus has to learn them. AJ has to learn another new system, but until just now, he has not shown much. Gus is a stop gap, and I am still not sure AJ can be much more, but I am willing to at least see what AJ could turn into.
I feel Gus will make less mistakes, but will not be the kind of QB that can win games. AJ will make more mistakes but if he can limit them maybe he can turn out OK. I still figure we will have to again be looking for a QB next off season. :cry:
 
KTOWNFINFAN said:
You really can't use that arguement about last year. We started a new system last year, so both AJ AND Jay had to learn new systems. Jay clearly beat out AJ. Now this year Aj should have better awareness being around the recievers for a year, while Gus has to learn them. AJ has to learn another new system, but until just now, he has not shown much. Gus is a stop gap, and I am still not sure AJ can be much more, but I am willing to at least see what AJ could turn into.
I feel Gus will make less mistakes, but will not be the kind of QB that can win games. AJ will make more mistakes but if he can limit them maybe he can turn out OK. I still figure we will have to again be looking for a QB next off season. :cry:

That's news to me, if I remember correctly Wanny didn't want to change system, he wanted his coaches to learn Norv's system, thus that why he didn't give the O to Sullivan or Testman..remember..so Jay was much more familiar with that system than AJ, so yes I can use the argument I use.
 
MDFINFAN said:
That's news to me, if I remember correctly Wanny didn't want to change system, he wanted his coaches to learn Norv's system, thus that why he didn't give the O to Sullivan or Testman..remember..so Jay was much more familiar with that system than AJ, so yes I can use the argument I use.

Yup it was Turner's system.
 
gus went against 1st stringers, aj did not..you cant compare the 2
 
tucker said:
gus went against 1st stringers, aj did not..you cant compare the 2

another gusketeer that doesn't realize that starting gus doens't do anything for our future qb situation.

another gusketeer that wont admit that gus stunk and aj deserves a chance to be with the first team.

another gusketeer with the same old comment gus 1st stringers and aj not.

please open your eyes and realize that gus hasn't done well given his chance while AJ is improving.

i say give AJ a shot to start next week.

AJ has more upside than gus fielder.

starting gus would do what? absoultely nothing cause we would still have a qb problem.

let AJ start and see if he has the right stuff to be a NFL quarterback.
 
death7star said:
another gusketeer that doesn't realize that starting gus doens't do anything for our future qb situation.

another gusketeer that wont admit that gus stunk and aj deserves a chance to be with the first team.

another gusketeer with the same old comment gus 1st stringers and aj not.

please open your eyes and realize that gus hasn't done well given his chance while AJ is improving.

i say give AJ a shot to start next week.

AJ has more upside than gus fielder.

starting gus would do what? absoultely nothing cause we would still have a qb problem.

let AJ start and see if he has the right stuff to be a NFL quarterback.

we let aj start most of last season. your right about frerrotte no being our future. hes a stop gap all the way. but a guy like feeley shouldn't start because of upside. thats just not right.

Frerrotte was going against ronde barber and brian kelly. who was feeley going against.
 
Saban4prez said:
we let aj start most of last season. your right about frerrotte no being our future. hes a stop gap all the way. but a guy like feeley shouldn't start because of upside. thats just not right.

Frerrotte was going against ronde barber and brian kelly. who was feeley going against.

Frerotte has gotten 3 chances to turn in even a decent start, and all of his starts have been pathetic. Gus has averaged less than 40 percent completions, while even at his worst last year AJ was doing better than that. I know you will counter with interceptions, but AJ has greatly improved upon that...he finished the season going several games without a pick and had one overthrow this preseason. Face it, AJ actually went 3-3 at the end of last year on a team that had won one game before that. We were very close to winning the other games, and AJ has shown improvement in the area that caused us to lost those games.
 
Let's not forget that Gus played a drive in the 3rd quarter and stunk it up there too. Not to mention:

2-2-MIA39 (6:49) PENALTY on MIA-G.Frerotte, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at MIA 39 - No Play

What is that about...
 
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