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I"m not sure how many games Lombardi saw, but if he did, he would've seen that the offensive line was unable to generate much of a push especially at center and on the right side where the Dolphins were forced to shuffle right guards after promising rookie Donald Thomas was lost for the season in his first game. That's why they resorted to the WIldcat which Brown ran flawlessly. Remember, Brown was back less than a year after tearing his ACL. Generally, ACLs take 18 months to fully heal. WIth the addition of C Jake Grove and re-signing of Vernon Carey, the return to health of guards Justin Smiley and Thomas, plus another year of experience from Jake Long, the O-line should be much improved and Ronnie could have a career year, the one he was on his way of having before tearing the ACL when he was leading the NFL in yards-from-scrimmage. Oh, yeah, Brown still had a career-high 10 TDs last year and that's not counting the one he threw. He also had to share carries with Ricky Williams and a surprising Patrick Cobbs.

I expect the Dolphins to re-up Brown before the season starts. But, we'll see.
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http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2009/04/trade-ronnie-brown-no-way.html

I have been laying low and have not given my two cents, but I think whoever thinks Ronnie will be traded is crazy. First, there is no proof to the rumor Lombardi created and second why do you create another whole for this team when you have a huge hole at CB, DT and OLB. Then there is the fact Ronnie ran the WildCat flawlessly and I think this organization loves him.

I have said this time and time again, I dont understand how some of you defend chumps like Beck, Soliai and Allen, but every year are dying to get rid of your best offensive weapon. Realize our best offensive weapon since Ronnie was drafted has been Ronnie Brown and he is not going anywhere via trade.

Makes me glad a bunch of you Mueller wannabes are not running the show and getting rid of our best players.
 
FinAtic8480 said:
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2009/04/trade-ronnie-brown-no-way.html

I have been laying low and have not given my two cents, but I think whoever thinks Ronnie will be traded is crazy. First, there is no proof to the rumor Lombardi created and second why do you create another whole for this team when you have a huge hole at CB, DT and OLB. Then there is the fact Ronnie ran the WildCat flawlessly and I think this organization loves him.

I have said this time and time again, I dont understand how some of you defend chumps like Beck, Soliai and Allen, but every year are dying to get rid of your best offensive weapon. Realize our best offensive weapon since Ronnie was drafted has been Ronnie Brown and he is not going anywhere via trade.

Makes me glad a bunch of you Mueller wannabes are not running the show and getting rid of our best players.
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This topic is brought up by haters all the time in the offseason. Ronnie won't be traded. He is the current face of the franchise since JT and ZT left. He means more than just wins and losses. He puts butts in the seats.

Heck, Maurice Jones-Drew just got a new deal with the Jags and he was drafted a year after Ronnie in the 2nd round. I feel Ronnie is a bit more of a 3 down, all-purpose back compared to MJD and deserves at least the 5 yr/$31 million contract MJD got from the Jags.
 
I can't see trading him, unless someone made a really stupid offer. He is our best offensive weapon, and I think he will be more productive still as the line and the rest of the team improve.
 
I don's see him leaving. The Tri-fecta wont let him go.
 
First of all; Chad Pennington was our best player last year, and Joey Porter was second.

Ronnie had a decent year but it wasn't special. 3000 yards and the 2nd best passer rating in the NFL along with being runner up in MVP voting is special, and so is 17 sacks.

Yes, he got invited to the probowl but only because Larry Johnson,Ladanian Thomlinson,and Willie Parker all missed multiple games.

Another thing; where does this line of thinking,"trading a player is synonymous with getting rid of a player," come from.

Trading a player is about value. The best NFL franchises get the most bang for their buck.

Sure sometimes players are traded becuase they become incorrigible or some kind of cancer but when a trade is being initiatiated by the FO
it is to obtain value.

I agree that Ronnie Brown still has the potential to have a couple big years but to make him out to be this indispensable, stalwart, bastion of our whole team guy, is a bunch of rubbish.

Ronnie Brown is gone for the right price, as are most of our players.

It is just in Brown's case, at this time, there are more reasons to pull the trigger than most other players on the team.

For example: Phillip Merling in this years market for pass rushing 4-3 Ends would garner huge interest.

FA was almost nothing this year and this year's draft class for DE's of any size is almost void of any good prospects. Tyson Jackson may go very early and he doesn't even have a pass rushing game.

The Dolphins have a lot of depth behind Merling and could probably get by without him, but because of contract ramifications, trading Merling is out of the question.

Ronnie on the other hand could be gone on draft day if a couple teams don't get their man in the 1st round.
 
Elliott 1 said:
First of all; Chad Pennington was our best player last year, and Joey Porter was second.

Ronnie had a decent year but it wasn't special. 3000 yards and the 2nd best passer rating in the NFL along with being runner up in MVP voting is special, and so is 17 sacks.

Yes, he got invited to the probowl but only because Larry Johnson,Ladanian Thomlinson,and Willie Parker all missed multiple games.

Another thing; where does this line of thinking,"trading a player is synonymous with getting rid of a player," come from.

Trading a player is about value. The best NFL franchises get the most bang for their buck.

Sure sometimes players are traded becuase they become incorrigible or some kind of cancer but when a trade is being initiatiated by the FO
it is to obtain value.

I agree that Ronnie Brown still has the potential to have a couple big years but to make him out to be this indispensable, stalwart, bastion of our whole team guy, is a bunch of rubbish.

Ronnie Brown is gone for the right price, as are most of our players.

It is just in Brown's case, at this time, there are more reasons to pull the trigger than most other players on the team.

For example: Phillip Merling in this years market for pass rushing 4-3 Ends would garner huge interest.

FA was almost nothing this year and this year's draft class for DE's of any size is almost void of any good prospects. Tyson Jackson may go very early and he doesn't even have a pass rushing game.

The Dolphins have a lot of depth behind Merling and could probably get by without him, but because of contract ramifications, trading Merling is out of the question.

Ronnie on the other hand could be gone on draft day if a couple teams don't get their man in the 1st round.
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1. Agreed.

2. RB rushed for over a 1000 and 10 td's. Pretty Darn good to me.

3. Irrelevant, a Pro Bowl is a Pro Bowl

4. If you trade a player you are getting rid of him. Regardless of gained value. Would he be on the roster? No. Did you trade him? Yes. So.... in essence you are getting rid of him. You are just coming up with a different way of saying it. Maybe make it seem nicer. I mean Ronnie does have feelings

5. Agreed, trade is about value. But still your are getting rid of a player if you trade him.

6. Agreed but RB is no cancer so what is the point of putting that in your statement? Let me guess VALUE.

7. Ronnie at this point is the face of the Franchise whether people want to accept it or not. With our depth at RB we cant afford to lose him for whatever Value you are looking for. I mean seriously..... Who could come in and produce the same stats if not better at this point? Ricky is aging and Patrick Cobbs is specialist so..... Thoughts?

8. Disagreed

9. Not at this time.... so disagreed

10- 12. DE not really a concern... This is about Ronnie.

13. Ronnie is staying.... Get over it.
 
The kid was the main reason the Wildcat was so effective. Every other team who tried did not have half the success we had with it. It was an idiotic statement by Lombardi, period.

Ask Teddy Bruschi who he would want out of the Division and his answer would be Ronnie Brown. In fact when he was on NFL Network this year and was asked who he would want out of the division. Bruschi said Ronnie Brown.

Yes, Pennington was great at QB and had a great year, but Ronnie Brown was his best weapon. You dont get rid of Brown and this rumor was just lombardi making something up in down time. I have kept a list of players Miami has looked at during the offseason for the draft or showed interested including Senior Bowl and Combine and there is three RB on my list. Only one might go high the other two are UDFA or 6th or 7th round picks.

Ronnie is not going anywhere.
 
I guarantee you the people rooting the most for Ronnie to be traded are the Jets, Bills, and Cheatriots.
 
Fact is everything in this world has a price for it, literally or metaphorically. Ronnie Brown is not some acception to the rule. But still it is highly theoretical being that hes one of our stars on a fairly noname team and would command a blockbuster type trade. I love our players and, for the acception of wilford and MAYBE a few others, want them to stay miami dolphins. Cant wait for next season
 
If it wasn't for RB Chad would not have done as well, how many passes did he catch coming out of the backfield plus adding a new dimension to the offense.
The happiest day of 2008 for me was watching RB do a number on the Pats.
 
Hargitt01 said:
1. Agreed.

2. RB rushed for over a 1000 and 10 td's. Pretty Darn good to me.

3. Irrelevant, a Pro Bowl is a Pro Bowl

4. If you trade a player you are getting rid of him. Regardless of gained value. Would he be on the roster? No. Did you trade him? Yes. So.... in essence you are getting rid of him. You are just coming up with a different way of saying it. Maybe make it seem nicer. I mean Ronnie does have feelings

5. Agreed, trade is about value. But still your are getting rid of a player if you trade him.

6. Agreed but RB is no cancer so what is the point of putting that in your statement? Let me guess VALUE.

7. Ronnie at this point is the face of the Franchise whether people want to accept it or not. With our depth at RB we cant afford to lose him for whatever Value you are looking for. I mean seriously..... Who could come in and produce the same stats if not better at this point? Ricky is aging and Patrick Cobbs is specialist so..... Thoughts?

8. Disagreed

9. Not at this time.... so disagreed

10- 12. DE not really a concern... This is about Ronnie.

13. Ronnie is staying.... Get over it.
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Where did I say I wanted to trade him????????????



You go to all this trouble to have a numbered response and it turns out that your responding to things that you errantly read between the lines.

What is the point of mincing words? The whole thing about, "getting rid of player," was to simply say that when trading a player it doesn't necessarily indicate that your upset with, or even disappointed with the player. A lot of times, it is as I said, a value decision. Every team works with a salary cap and the ones who get the most out of their allotted expenditures are the most successful franchises in the long run.

Ronnie isn't the face of the Dolphins franchise. He isn't even close to being the face.

In every media thing I've seen since Parcell's arrival it's been,"all about Bill."

As for the rest of what you wrote; I didn't even write the things you respond to.

Do you always go on an imagination spree when reading other peoples posts???????

I didn't say anything specific about Ronnie Browns attitude or character yet you accuse me of calling him a cancer. This kind of thing would be annoying if it wasn't so ridiculous.

Ronnie Brown is a great guy and I don't want to trade him.

However, if it is expedient to the vision, I expect the FO will pull the trigger.
 
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