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I don't have a problem with the Pats winning.

It's the Cowboys, jests and Ravens that I most despise.
 
registeredguy said:
Lol, you think Bob Kraft has anything to do with the Patriots success? As soon as Brady retires that team is in big trouble.
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no bro you mean the whole nfl will be in trouble that means BB will be grabbing another franchise QB and will be on for another long haul and missery for the other 31 teams.
 
Roman529 said:
I don't see the Patriots staying near the top. Every dynasty comes to and end eventually. The Packers of the 1960's, the Dolphins and Steelers of the 70's, the Niners of the 80's, the Cowboys of the 90's, and the Pats of the 2000's. I think the Pat's dynasty ended when their defense got old. They lost Bruschi, Law, Harrison, Vrabel, Seymour, etc. Now they have one of the worst defenses in the NFL and haven't beaten any teams with a record over .500 this year. Maybe they will win another SB this year, but I don't think they are the best team. They just have Brady and the best offense right now....but that might not get them another ring. I think once Brady retires the Pats will be a very average team. Look at what happened to the Colts without P. Manning.
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come on bro the steelers and cowboys have had THERE MOMENTS as of late BB has enough draft picks to put the defence bk where it needs to be because the teams keep giveing them picks ,pats have 2 first rounders to build with and by the time BB gets his Defence than he will have the picks he needs to put another brady bk behind center and on to another SB or 3 , we want to be champs again then we are going to have to take chances just like BB is/.dose but imo as long as the pats have BB and kraft keeps his hands off and dosent try to let the GM run the show its untelling just how long the pats will be contenders in this league , i guess until BB gets tired of winning and wants to do something else.
 
Generic Name said:
It has sunk in that a lot of "fans" in here are weak minded, negative as hell, and believe whatever the national media tells them
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Like we need the national media to tell us we suck, like it isn't an established fact. The fans don't know that we haven't been to a Super Bowl since the 1984 season. The fans don't know that we haven't won a damn thing since before Watergate. This is all media-produced propaganda. Unfair agitprop. Wake up people, why are you being "negative as hell?" There is much to celebrate comrades. Being a realist is now synonymous with being weak-minded. Calling a spade a spade is just too much for some. The ugly reality needs to be glossed over with conspiracy theories and persecution manias perpetuated by a Dolphin-hating national media. No, the organization is just another broken down vessel living on accomplishments nearly four decades old.
 
dirwuf said:
The hiring of Belichick and the drafting of Brady were not celebratory moments when they happened...sometimes you just luck out.
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BB would be a DC today if he didn't luck out w/ BRady in the 6th round.

houtz said:
When Brady retires Mallett will be ready to step in and the Patriots will continue down their path of success. If you really think the transition wont be seamless I feel sorry for you. BB is a genius and the one if not the greatest coach in NFL history. Sure he's a mother ****er and I wish death upon both he and Brady but let's face it, Matt Cassell looked godly in that offense. Ryan Mallett has all the tools to be elite in the NFL and sitting behind Brady for the next few years is only going to make him better.

We, the Miami Dolphins are ****ed. Unless of course Mike McCoy or Joe Philbin are indeed cut out to be HCs which none of us know at this point. You would also have to assume we finally get a franchise QB but if we haven't in the last decade or so, I'm not really expecting much now. At least we're not the JESTS who have a big mouth HC, a awful "franchise QB" and are continuing to implode. Those two AFC Championship appearances mean absolutely nothing.

We could be the Jets or Bills but sadly both those franchises have more respect league wide than we do. Patriots will continue to be in this situation for years to come. However, I do believe the Ravens can put a end to their run this season.
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Check the the record of the genius without Tom Brady. Wheh Brady hangs 'em up the Pats division dynasty will go along w/ it.

At least you aren't the Jets who are the only team in the league the last 3 years to make 2 title game trips- it's much better to have coaches decline to accept the position and to be under .500 every year but at least you aren't the Jets!

dirwuf said:
And if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt, Brady sits on the bench three more years...
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That is 100% incorrect. Brady would have been playing sooner than later, BB was already feeling heat about his job going 5-11 in '00 and starting 0-2 in '01. Brady would have been starting at some point in '01, maybe not soon enough to rescue the '01 season like he did but it would not have been years later.

insomnia411 said:
How about head to head matchups, super bowl titles, or playoff performances over the last 20 years? You bring up '09 and '10 because those are the 2 very very rare instances of the Jets outperforming the Giants in an NFL season over the course of history.
The Jets made 2 flukey playoff runs and are back at home again after yet another abysmal late season collapse. The Giants are making another deep playoff run because they have a real quarterback.
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In the last 20 years(1991-2011)

Head to Head: Jets 25 Dolphins 17
SBs: Zero for both
Title game apps: Jets 3, Dolphins 1
playoff apps: Jets 8 Dolphins Dolphins 9
playoff wins: Jets 7 Dolphins 5

the gap grows wider in the last decade or so but thanks for asking.

As for the Giants, in recent times the Jets have been better in '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '04, '06, '09, '10 but again thanks for asking

The Jets BACK TO BACK title games were fluky but the dolphins ONE playoff app from 2002-2011 wasn't and the Giants 2 seasons in the last 11 seasons w/ playoff wins was not.
 
nyjunc said:
BB would be a DC today if he didn't luck out w/ BRady in the 6th round.


Check the the record of the genius without Tom Brady. Wheh Brady hangs 'em up the Pats division dynasty will go along w/ it.

At least you aren't the Jets who are the only team in the league the last 3 years to make 2 title game trips- it's much better to have coaches decline to accept the position and to be under .500 every year but at least you aren't the Jets!


That is 100% incorrect. Brady would have been playing sooner than later, BB was already feeling heat about his job going 5-11 in '00 and starting 0-2 in '01. Brady would have been starting at some point in '01, maybe not soon enough to rescue the '01 season like he did but it would not have been years later.



In the last 20 years(1991-2011)

Head to Head: Jets 25 Dolphins 17
SBs: Zero for both
Title game apps: Jets 3, Dolphins 1
playoff apps: Jets 8 Dolphins Dolphins 9
playoff wins: Jets 7 Dolphins 5

the gap grows wider in the last decade or so but thanks for asking.

As for the Giants, in recent times the Jets have been better in '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '04, '06, '09, '10 but again thanks for asking

The Jets BACK TO BACK title games were fluky but the dolphins ONE playoff app from 2002-2011 wasn't and the Giants 2 seasons in the last 11 seasons w/ playoff wins was not.
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quit calling it a title game. its a conference championship , that phrase went out in the 70s. you are just trying to sugar coat those playoff losses.
 
nyjunc said:
BB would be a DC today if he didn't luck out w/ BRady in the 6th round.


Check the the record of the genius without Tom Brady. Wheh Brady hangs 'em up the Pats division dynasty will go along w/ it.

At least you aren't the Jets who are the only team in the league the last 3 years to make 2 title game trips- it's much better to have coaches decline to accept the position and to be under .500 every year but at least you aren't the Jets!


That is 100% incorrect. Brady would have been playing sooner than later, BB was already feeling heat about his job going 5-11 in '00 and starting 0-2 in '01. Brady would have been starting at some point in '01, maybe not soon enough to rescue the '01 season like he did but it would not have been years later.



In the last 20 years(1991-2011)

Head to Head: Jets 25 Dolphins 17
SBs: Zero for both
Title game apps: Jets 3, Dolphins 1
playoff apps: Jets 8 Dolphins Dolphins 9
playoff wins: Jets 7 Dolphins 5

the gap grows wider in the last decade or so but thanks for asking.

As for the Giants, in recent times the Jets have been better in '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '04, '06, '09, '10 but again thanks for asking

The Jets BACK TO BACK title games were fluky but the dolphins ONE playoff app from 2002-2011 wasn't and the Giants 2 seasons in the last 11 seasons w/ playoff wins was not.
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Juck the Fets.
 
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