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Hayden Fox Assessment: W16

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Positives

  • Scored on the opening TD drive.

  • The defense’s response after the fumble inside the red area. The Jags ended up with a 4th and 46...kind of incredible.

  • Red Zone defense: 1-3.

  • The defense only gave up 244 total yards for a 3.9 average.

  • 6 sacks.

  • Run defense 126 total yards on 32 carries...3.9 per rush

  • Held Leonard Fournette to 43 yards on 18 carries and a TD.

  • Andre Branch fumble recovery.

  • Raekwon McMillan 10 TOT, 7 Solo and TFL.

  • Jalen Davis 3rd down sack on a blitz. Davis also skillfully punched the ball out at the end of the game forcing a fumble the Fins could not recover.

  • Matt Haack saved a TD at the end of the half with a tackle.

  • Smart early in the game to take a holding call to force the Jags into a 3rd and long and pushed them out of field goal range.

Negatives


  • Minus 1 TO differential.

  • 2-9 on 3rd down.

  • 183 total yards.

  • 62 yards rushing...a 3.4 per average.

  • Ryan Tannehill. 15-22 146 yards, 1 TD, 1 Int. 82.7 QB Rating. His pick 6 was completely a backbreaking play. He saw ghosts all game. He cannot set a protection. He has no idea what is in front or around him at this point.

  • Laremy Tunsil was awful. Jumping offsides. Got beat early.

  • Brandon Bolden fumble.

  • OPI on Brice Butler. Kind of questionable call.

  • Awful response by the defense after Miami scored on the opening drive by giving up 7 on their first chance to play.

  • 6-13 on 3rd down the Jaguars were on offense.

  • Got no points off the turnover.

  • Robert Quinn penalty that helped keep a Jags drive alive.

  • Reshad Jones taunting penalty.

  • Jason Sanders missed kick. Huge miss in a day points were needed.

  • Horse collar penalty on Kalen Ballage on a return that could have put the Jags inside their own 10.

  • Running into the punter penalty.

  • The long punt return from Dede Westbrook. Why the Dolphins punted to him in that spot is remarkable. He almost took it the distance. Punt the ball out of bounds.

  • Matt Haack was all over the place with his punts.

  • The Jags consistently won the field position battle.

  • Penalties: 10 for 97 yards. Too many pre-snap infractions.

  • How did the officials not reset the play clock after the divot from the Tannehill run.

  • Andrew Catalon with the kiss of death stating Jason Sanders great season of stats before his miss.

Overall Assessment:


  • It is time to move on from Ryan Tannehill. I have supported him. I hope I have been constructively critical of him through the years. However, he is done in Miami. He has done nothing the last two weeks. I have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. However, is simply terrible right now. He does not what he is seeing. He cannot set a protection. He cannot make a play when things breakdown. He has zero instincts. The franchise has needed him the last two weeks and he has been a no show. Imagine if he won both games the last two weeks what the narrative would be? Again, he stinks in December. He is so bad on 3rd down. Seriously, how atrocious is RT on 3rd down? God-awful in the 4th quarter. Release in the league new year and go find a veteran to start next year while you try to develop a younger kid.

  • Tannehill could be considered a serial killer of coaches. Think about it: Mike Sherman, Joe Philbin, Bill Lazor, Dan Campbell and now maybe Adam Gase...it is remarkable. Tannehill is never the reason something goes right. It is always “something messed up around him”. When does he mask the issues of other areas on the team? He has to go.

  • Miami needs to look at Teddy Bridgewater, Nick Foles, Tyrod Taylor or trade a pick for Jacoby Brissett. They need to get a veteran QB that knows what they are looking at and can give some juice, albeit temporary, to this organization and fanbase.

  • This team just lost by 10 to the Jaguars. The pick-six ruined any chance the team had. It is so crazy that when the Fins lose it is by multiple scores. When they win, it is close. I am not saying I want excruciating close losses. However, the last time the Fins boat raced a team was Denver last December. They are consistently losing some obvious metrics.

  • How does this team go so low after the unbelievable high of the Miami Miracle?

  • Now comes the discussion of Adam Gase, Chris Grier and Mike Tannenbaum and other coaches. Look, I defended this regime. If you want to argue they should be blown out, fine, I will not fight you anymore. Just come up a realistic option that I will not rip. When I saw 5 Reasons Sports Network argue for George Paton (fine, good hire) and George Edwards...I laughed and fell out of my chair. Come with a good combination...I am starting to think of some...and I could be convinced. I do think that an argument could be made for keeping the FO and Gase while tossing Tannehill and Matt Burke overboard. I truly think Adam Gase can coach. He is in only his 3rd year at his job and inherited a QB. He did say he could excel with him. However, I am fine if he gets a shot with a Teddy Bridgewater and moldable drafted QB this spring. Gase needs to hire a grizzled, DC that is fine when Gase is sitting on the bench figuring out place with his Sharpie. It is obvious a QB needs to be signed or traded for and a young one drafted. From there the lines need investment after investment.
I am not sure what happens come New Year’s, but at this point I will not be surprised at much of anything.
 
Thanks for the recap. I agree, a high point was McMillan. He has really been getting better as the season goes on. He'll at least be around for two years with the new coach/FO (if of course that happens). I'm ready to clean house.
 
I doubt indy would trade him but Brissett would be an interesting supplement to a draft pick in the next 2 seasons. Didnt pay much attention to the game today, but its good to know McMillan is trending up
 
Unfortunately, the arguments for Gase are the same as the arguments we heard for Tannehill, i.e. he is good and he is good enough. To all that, I offer this fine post:


Dolfanfrank70 said:
There cant truly be any uncertainty in Ross mind regarding what to do, even if he wanted to give Gase(as i did) the benefit of the doubt a review of the last 2 weeks performance should provide the answer.

If not then look deeper into the numbers, decisions and progress the team has shown or not over the Gase era.

A HC is hired because of reputation a specialty whether they can manage an entire organization is ordinarily not known until given the opportunity.

Gase failed at his specialty, offense and more directly getting significant production from Tannehill.
Poor offensive numbers, lack of improvement from Tannehill and no direction on offense should be enough to determine his job as HC a failure.

However his lack of attention to total team performance is equally justification to pull the plug on his tenure.

Now regarding Ross and his uncertainty I had been confident for weeks that he would fire Gase and clean house most specifically because its the one approach he has yet to try, however if he determines that cutting Tannehill, firing Burke are the answers to his teams problem then this suffering will continue.

Mixed media reports have a possible house cleaning top to bottom... that is the only way to move forward...anything less is a half measure.

Its time for Ross to step back realize that his organization is not in good hands, even if he lets Gase go and he becomes a great HC its not going to happen in Miami.
Life is like that sometimes, for Gase, Tannehill, Ross its time to part ways....and let us fans have hope in someone new.
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Tannehill could be considered a serial killer of coaches. Think about it: Mike Sherman, Joe Philbin, Bill Lazor, Dan Campbell and now maybe Adam Gase...it is remarkable. Tannehill is never the reason something goes right. It is always “something messed up around him”. When does he mask the issues of other areas on the team? He has to go.
 
It’s difficult to describe how bad Tannehill was today, but that was a pretty good summation.
 
circumstances said:
Charles Harris had a sack in 2018 that wasn't negated by penalty!
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Too bad he immediately picked up a personal foul literally one play later. Already firmly in bust territory. His and Dion Jordan’s first two years are almost identical in terms of production.
 
Miamifinz said:
Too bad he immediately picked up a personal foul literally one play later. Already firmly in bust territory. His and Dion Jordan’s first two years are almost identical in terms of production.
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He's got two or three years left on his rookie contract, and a hard worker and model citizen.

Get used to him.
 
Miamifinz said:
Too bad he immediately picked up a personal foul just a play or two later. Already firmly in bust territory. His and Dion Jordan’s first two years are almost identical in terms of production.
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Except Harris' per snap production has to be among the lowest ever. Like 35 tackles and 3 sacks with around 800 snaps under his belt is pretty remarkable when you think about it.
 
Hayden Fox said:
Positives

  • Scored on the opening TD drive.

  • The defense’s response after the fumble inside the red area. The Jags ended up with a 4th and 46...kind of incredible.

  • Red Zone defense: 1-3.

  • The defense only gave up 244 total yards for a 3.9 average.

  • 6 sacks.

  • Run defense 126 total yards on 32 carries...3.9 per rush

  • Held Leonard Fournette to 43 yards on 18 carries and a TD.

  • Andre Branch fumble recovery.

  • Raekwon McMillan 10 TOT, 7 Solo and TFL.

  • Jalen Davis 3rd down sack on a blitz. Davis also skillfully punched the ball out at the end of the game forcing a fumble the Fins could not recover.

  • Matt Haack saved a TD at the end of the half with a tackle.

  • Smart early in the game to take a holding call to force the Jags into a 3rd and long and pushed them out of field goal range.

Negatives


  • Minus 1 TO differential.

  • 2-9 on 3rd down.

  • 183 total yards.

  • 62 yards rushing...a 3.4 per average.

  • Ryan Tannehill. 15-22 146 yards, 1 TD, 1 Int. 82.7 QB Rating. His pick 6 was completely a backbreaking play. He saw ghosts all game. He cannot set a protection. He has no idea what is in front or around him at this point.

  • Laremy Tunsil was awful. Jumping offsides. Got beat early.

  • Brandon Bolden fumble.

  • OPI on Brice Butler. Kind of questionable call.

  • Awful response by the defense after Miami scored on the opening drive by giving up 7 on their first chance to play.

  • 6-13 on 3rd down the Jaguars were on offense.

  • Got no points off the turnover.

  • Robert Quinn penalty that helped keep a Jags drive alive.

  • Reshad Jones taunting penalty.

  • Jason Sanders missed kick. Huge miss in a day points were needed.

  • Horse collar penalty on Kalen Ballage on a return that could have put the Jags inside their own 10.

  • Running into the punter penalty.

  • The long punt return from Dede Westbrook. Why the Dolphins punted to him in that spot is remarkable. He almost took it the distance. Punt the ball out of bounds.

  • Matt Haack was all over the place with his punts.

  • The Jags consistently won the field position battle.

  • Penalties: 10 for 97 yards. Too many pre-snap infractions.

  • How did the officials not reset the play clock after the divot from the Tannehill run.

  • Andrew Catalon with the kiss of death stating Jason Sanders great season of stats before his miss.

Overall Assessment:


  • It is time to move on from Ryan Tannehill. I have supported him. I hope I have been constructively critical of him through the years. However, he is done in Miami. He has done nothing the last two weeks. I have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. However, is simply terrible right now. He does not what he is seeing. He cannot set a protection. He cannot make a play when things breakdown. He has zero instincts. The franchise has needed him the last two weeks and he has been a no show. Imagine if he won both games the last two weeks what the narrative would be? Again, he stinks in December. He is so bad on 3rd down. Seriously, how atrocious is RT on 3rd down? God-awful in the 4th quarter. Release in the league new year and go find a veteran to start next year while you try to develop a younger kid.

  • Tannehill could be considered a serial killer of coaches. Think about it: Mike Sherman, Joe Philbin, Bill Lazor, Dan Campbell and now maybe Adam Gase...it is remarkable. Tannehill is never the reason something goes right. It is always “something messed up around him”. When does he mask the issues of other areas on the team? He has to go.

  • Miami needs to look at Teddy Bridgewater, Nick Foles, Tyrod Taylor or trade a pick for Jacoby Brissett. They need to get a veteran QB that knows what they are looking at and can give some juice, albeit temporary, to this organization and fanbase.

  • This team just lost by 10 to the Jaguars. The pick-six ruined any chance the team had. It is so crazy that when the Fins lose it is by multiple scores. When they win, it is close. I am not saying I want excruciating close losses. However, the last time the Fins boat raced a team was Denver last December. They are consistently losing some obvious metrics.

  • How does this team go so low after the unbelievable high of the Miami Miracle?

  • Now comes the discussion of Adam Gase, Chris Grier and Mike Tannenbaum and other coaches. Look, I defended this regime. If you want to argue they should be blown out, fine, I will not fight you anymore. Just come up a realistic option that I will not rip. When I saw 5 Reasons Sports Network argue for George Paton (fine, good hire) and George Edwards...I laughed and fell out of my chair. Come with a good combination...I am starting to think of some...and I could be convinced. I do think that an argument could be made for keeping the FO and Gase while tossing Tannehill and Matt Burke overboard. I truly think Adam Gase can coach. He is in only his 3rd year at his job and inherited a QB. He did say he could excel with him. However, I am fine if he gets a shot with a Teddy Bridgewater and moldable drafted QB this spring. Gase needs to hire a grizzled, DC that is fine when Gase is sitting on the bench figuring out place with his Sharpie. It is obvious a QB needs to be signed or traded for and a young one drafted. From there the lines need investment after investment.
I am not sure what happens come New Year’s, but at this point I will not be surprised at much of anything.
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Thanks for your work this year, Hayden. It wasn't the same without you. Merry Christmas!
 
Hayden Fox said:
  • Now comes the discussion of Adam Gase, Chris Grier and Mike Tannenbaum and other coaches. Look, I defended this regime. If you want to argue they should be blown out, fine, I will not fight you anymore. Just come up a realistic option that I will not rip.
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Dude. This is SO OFF BASE!

I'm a fan (as I assume the vast majority are here) with NO PRETENSES as a PRO football MAVEN that needs to justify my opinion of what suck is by having to present YOU with some "verifiable solution!"

Seriously, I read that kinda crap and I just wanna ask -- who the **** do you think you are making such statements?
 
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