Head or Tails?????

[WVDolphan]

Well folks. At about 6 mil a year, I think its safe to say Pennington is our starter. We can also safely say Henne is on the roster. Even if he werent just drafted this year by the men currently in charge, he has outperformed everyone so far in camp.

So that leaves two men battling for one spot. Most likely the backup QB spot. I think if thats the case its a pretty fair bet that the FO would have to plan on playing the backup at some point this season too, even if its just for a few games. Pennington has a history of missing time.

So lets examine this FAIRLY and LOGICALLY and I will bash later

First we have Chainsaw Charlie(well I guess I will bash sooner than later Thanks X-Pacolypse.) Anyways I think I will stick with this name for McClown from now on because A) Its just plain funny and B) If he remains on the team it will be only as a backup. So Chainsaw Charlie it is.

Second we have the fan favorite Johnny Beck.

Lets examine a few points that should be deciding factors. FAIRLY and LOGICALLY.

1) Age. I believe Chainsaw Charlie is 28, Beck will be 27 soon. Push
2) Experience- Now this issue is key if they plan on putting either man in the backup role. If they dont mind Henne being the backup, its less of a factor if they dont mind keeping Beck as 3rd string.

Chainsaw - been in the league several years, starting experience
Beck - practically a rookie
Advantage Charlie. Again if they want to make sure Henne dosent play this year, its a HUGE advantage for Chainsaw sticking.

3) Money - Chainsaw I believe is a 3 mil a year guy. He basically has a deal similar to that of what Jacksonville gave Lemon. Its a backup type contract....HMMMM Plus if you cut Chainsaw, there will be a hit to the cap due to that bonus he got if Im not mistaken. Neither one is expensive to keep, but advantage - Chainsaw given the factors I spoke of.

Looking at those 3 things Id say its a pretty big deal for McCown. Like I said, this might come down to whether or not they really want to put Henne out there if Pennington gets injured. If they dont, it seems like keeping Chainsaw would be the right move.

We could very well see a battle tomorrow night by letting Henne just sit out. The gang might just want to see who could handle playing in real games better if Pennington gets injured.

I have no doubt this FO has designs on competing for a strong 8-10 win season and a playoff chance. They will want a guy to get in there and keep us floating if they have to play several games.

But, hey if they feel like Henne could do ok for a few games, then they might keep Beck around. Or if they feel like Beck could handle starting a few games if necessary and give us a shot to win when he does, then it would make sense to keep Beck.

The only real thing Beck has going for him is the fact he is only in year two. But, again, I think its pretty fair to say these guys, like me, feel strong about Henne being the future. I dont think they feel they need to keep Beck around for the purpose of being our starter in 1-2 years. So Im not so sure the fact that Beck is only in year two helps him out much.

I think what would help Beck is proving to the FO that he can handle backing up Pennington and doing a nice job when his number is called to make a start or two. It just seems LOGICAL to me that if he dosent prove he is more capable than McCown of doing that, that he is indeed a goner.

After examining things, I think its pretty safe to say that Beck is history. So that just leaves one thing to say to the Beck fan club..........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZfuCJ970w

 

[WVDolphan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJN3PGqDRNg

 

[Kubix]

I'll simplify your post.

McCown is getting cut - No potential growth, we've got a better veteran starter. Cap room isn't an issue.

Beck is kept - Still plenty of room for potential, lower salary.

 

[Vaark]

It's incredible, Tuna's morphed into Cam in one felt swoop. Who'd a thunk it.

 

[X-Pacolypse]

Chainsaw is 29, not 28. Just a minor correction.

 

[WVDolphan]

I'll simplify your post.

McCown is getting cut - No potential growth, we've got a better veteran starter. Cap room isn't an issue.

Beck is kept - Still plenty of room for potential, lower salary.

See thats just the thing, and why I think Beck is the goner.....We DONT NEED HIS POTENTIAL!!!! Thats why we drafted Henne. And Henne has shown he has much more potential and will be our guy in the future. What we DO NEED is a decent backup for Pennington.......THATS WHY WE HAVE MCCOWN. Beck is history. :sidelol:

Plus how can you say when speaking of McCown that Cap room isnt an issue, but then in trying to argue FOR Beck you make the point he has a lower salary???????????????? Dosent that contradict??? But, like all Beck lovers youre just spinning anyway. On one hand McCown can be cut because the cap isnt an issue, but Beck should be kept because he is cheaper!

 

[Marino613]

Or if they feel like Beck could handle starting a few games if necessary and give us a shot to win when he does, then it would make sense to keep Beck.

This is the nicest thing I have ever heard you say about Beck :wink: (teasing)

I think what would help Beck is proving to the FO that he can handle backing up Pennington and doing a nice job when his number is called to make a start or two. It just seems LOGICAL to me that if he dosent prove he is more capable than McCown of doing that, that he is indeed a goner.

This just sounds like what the coaches have been saying all along. It is an open competition, the only difference is that now there is a roster spot at stake.

Overall thoughtful post though.

 

[ckparrothead]

They just signed Pennington to the same length and structure contract as Josh McCown. The writing is on the wall.

It'll be kind of funny when they get rid of McCown and you are forced to admit you were wrong.

 

[MrEd]

Well folks. At about 6 mil a year, I think its safe to say Pennington is our starter. We can also safely say Henne is on the roster. Even if he werent just drafted this year by the men currently in charge, he has outperformed everyone so far in camp.

So that leaves two men battling for one spot. Most likely the backup QB spot. I think if thats the case its a pretty fair bet that the FO would have to plan on playing the backup at some point this season too, even if its just for a few games. Pennington has a history of missing time.

So lets examine this FAIRLY and LOGICALLY and I will bash later

First we have Chainsaw Charlie(well I guess I will bash sooner than later Thanks X-Pacolypse.) Anyways I think I will stick with this name for McClown from now on because A) Its just plain funny and B) If he remains on the team it will be only as a backup. So Chainsaw Charlie it is.

Second we have the fan favorite Johnny Beck.

Lets examine a few points that should be deciding factors. FAIRLY and LOGICALLY.

1) Age. I believe Chainsaw Charlie is 28, Beck will be 27 soon. Push
2) Experience- Now this issue is key if they plan on putting either man in the backup role. If they dont mind Henne being the backup, its less of a factor if they dont mind keeping Beck as 3rd string.

Chainsaw - been in the league several years, starting experience
Beck - practically a rookie
Advantage Charlie. Again if they want to make sure Henne dosent play this year, its a HUGE advantage for Chainsaw sticking.

3) Money - Chainsaw I believe is a 3 mil a year guy. He basically has a deal similar to that of what Jacksonville gave Lemon. Its a backup type contract....HMMMM Plus if you cut Chainsaw, there will be a hit to the cap due to that bonus he got if Im not mistaken. Neither one is expensive to keep, but advantage - Chainsaw given the factors I spoke of.

Looking at those 3 things Id say its a pretty big deal for McCown. Like I said, this might come down to whether or not they really want to put Henne out there if Pennington gets injured. If they dont, it seems like keeping Chainsaw would be the right move.

We could very well see a battle tomorrow night by letting Henne just sit out. The gang might just want to see who could handle playing in real games better if Pennington gets injured.

I have no doubt this FO has designs on competing for a strong 8-10 win season and a playoff chance. They will want a guy to get in there and keep us floating if they have to play several games.

But, hey if they feel like Henne could do ok for a few games, then they might keep Beck around. Or if they feel like Beck could handle starting a few games if necessary and give us a shot to win when he does, then it would make sense to keep Beck.

The only real thing Beck has going for him is the fact he is only in year two. But, again, I think its pretty fair to say these guys, like me, feel strong about Henne being the future. I dont think they feel they need to keep Beck around for the purpose of being our starter in 1-2 years. So Im not so sure the fact that Beck is only in year two helps him out much.

I think what would help Beck is proving to the FO that he can handle backing up Pennington and doing a nice job when his number is called to make a start or two. It just seems LOGICAL to me that if he dosent prove he is more capable than McCown of doing that, that he is indeed a goner.

After examining things, I think its pretty safe to say that Beck is history. So that just leaves one thing to say to the Beck fan club..........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZZfuCJ970w

:sidelol: The guy singing actually LOOKS like Beck! :sidelol:

 

[WVDolphan]

This is the nicest thing I have ever heard you say about Beck :wink: (teasing)



This just sounds like what the coaches have been saying all along. It is an open competition, the only difference is that now there is a roster spot at stake.

Overall thoughtful post though.

Thanks buddy. I tried to make my initial post a completely fair assessment of the situation. I appreciate you discussing the issue without blasting me and just saying the whole post is garbage just because I believe its most likely Beck who will be gone based on the facts. Glad you recognize that it was a fair post and didnt just start bashing me. Now the very end of it there I did throw in a cheap shot with the clip. But, I had to:D

 

[Marino613]

See thats just the thing, and why I think Beck is the goner.....We DONT NEED HIS POTENTIAL!!!! Thats why we drafted Henne. And Henne has shown he has much more potential and will be our guy in the future. What we DO NEED is a decent backup for Pennington.......THATS WHY WE HAVE MCCOWN. Beck is history. :sidelol:

I don't think McCown has shown he can be a more effective backup than Beck in TC. I also completely disagree with that we don't "need his potential". There is nothing wrong with having more than one potentially good QB on the roster. So, if Beck shows these coaches this year in this preseason that he has equal or more goods than McCown, they may very well keep him because of potential too.

 

[Vaark]

See thats just the thing, and why I think Beck is the goner.....We DONT NEED HIS POTENTIAL!!!! Thats why we drafted Henne. And Henne has shown he has much more potential and will be our guy in the future. What we DO NEED is a decent backup for Pennington.......THATS WHY WE HAVE MCCOWN. Beck is history. :sidelol:

Plus how can you say when speaking of McCown that Cap room isnt an issue, but then in trying to argue FOR Beck you make the point he has a lower salary???????????????? Dosent that contradict??? But, like all Beck lovers youre just spinning anyway. On one hand McCown can be cut because the cap isnt an issue, but Beck should be kept because he is cheaper!

Whether Henne works out or not, he or any other QB is one violent tackle away from being Carson Palmer and the Bengals... or Drew Brees and the Bolts. And don't you think Arthur Blank rued the day he traded Schaub away, especially when he had to pay overmarket value for an untested rookie? Those are just 2 good reasons to always prudently strive to enhance your portfolio by developing your assets whether you end up using or exploiting them.

 

[WVDolphan]

They just signed Pennington to the same length and structure contract as Josh McCown. The writing is on the wall.

It'll be kind of funny when they get rid of McCown and you are forced to admit you were wrong.

I dont think so. I believe Pennington is making 11.5 mil over two years. I believe Chainsaw is getting 3 mil a year either over two years or three. Im not certain about the length of his but, I KNOW its 3 mil per year because I remember taking note that he is making the same money Lemon is in Jacksonville. Its backup money. Im pretty certain Lemons is 3 years 9 mil. Get your facts straight CK.

 

[WVDolphan]

:sidelol: The guy singing actually LOOKS like Beck! :sidelol:

I noticed that too when I found it earlier today. Made me laugh hard when I realized it. AWESOME!!!

 

[Marino613]

Thanks buddy. I tried to make my initial post a completely fair assessment of the situation. I appreciate you discussing the issue without blasting me and just saying the whole post is garbage just because I believe its most likely Beck who will be gone based on the facts. Glad you recognize that it was a fair post and didnt just start bashing me. Now the very end of it there I did throw in a cheap shot with the clip. But, I had to:D

Actually, I don't think I have ever seen you start blasting another fan. MAybe you have responded to other fans, but usually you write something mean about Beck and people just start attacking you. I have much more of a problem when people attack other people here than voicing opinions about players who will never actually read what they write.