Hello FinFans

[Datboy]

Just wanted to drop in to see what the opposing teams is talking about. I have read several post about Vick, but most of you don't get it I see, I gonna keep it short and sweet, The key word is gameplan, how many players do opposing coaches game plan around.

Chris Simms No
Frerotte Hell No
Manning Hell Yes
Brady Hell Yes
Ricky Williams Maybe when he's off the dope for a year
Ronnie Brown Soon but not yet

Basically how can a guy be overrated, when he is the main focus of a defensive coordinator game plan every week.

 

[Fudge 101]

Just wanted to drop in to see what the opposing teams is talking about. I have read several post about Vick, but most of you don't get it I see, I gonna keep it short and sweet, The key word is gameplan, how many players do opposing coaches game plan around.

Chris Simms No
Frerotte Hell No
Manning Hell Yes
Brady Hell Yes
Ricky Williams Maybe when he's off the dope for a year
Ronnie Brown Soon but not yet

Basically how can a guy be overrated, when he is the main focus of a defensive coordinator game plan every week.

No one questions him as an athlete. They question his ability to throw the ball. Scheming against vick to stop him from using the only thing he can (his legs) forces him to do something he is not as comfortable with yet which is throwing the ball. They dont question him as an RB or WR per se, they question him as a QB. I don't think you get it...

 

[KTownsDolphins]

Yes we are scheming to stop Ron Mexico. If we can keep him in the pocket or at least the middle of the field he won't be able to run all over us and force him to do something he hasn't done in ages pass for a ton of yards

 

[FakeSpike13]

Well I hope the falcons coaches think like you... Lets not scheme against the R&R express because one is a pot addict and one is a rookie... It'll make our lives 100 times easier then, for we'll run for something like 50 carries for 250 yds.... final score then 31-7... that has to be the stupidest way of some1 trying to get their point across that I've ever seen... and yes Vick is overrated as a passer, which is the primary function of a QB, is it not?

 

[dominizzo]

Welcome

 

[FinNasty]

Just wanted to drop in to see what the opposing teams is talking about. I have read several post about Vick, but most of you don't get it I see, I gonna keep it short and sweet, The key word is gameplan, how many players do opposing coaches game plan around.

Chris Simms No
Frerotte Hell No
Manning Hell Yes
Brady Hell Yes
Ricky Williams Maybe when he's off the dope for a year
Ronnie Brown Soon but not yet

Basically how can a guy be overrated, when he is the main focus of a defensive coordinator game plan every week.

He sucks throwing the ball... but he is still a playmaker. he is dangerous and everyone knows it... I dont think anyone can deny that...

 

[supertek]

Just wanted to drop in to see what the opposing teams is talking about. I have read several post about Vick, but most of you don't get it I see, I gonna keep it short and sweet, The key word is gameplan, how many players do opposing coaches game plan around.

Chris Simms No
Frerotte Hell No
Manning Hell Yes
Brady Hell Yes
Ricky Williams Maybe when he's off the dope for a year
Ronnie Brown Soon but not yet

Basically how can a guy be overrated, when he is the main focus of a defensive coordinator game plan every week.

You are scaring me. Will you be here long?

 

[kastofsna120]

lol i PRAY no defensive cooridinator plans for ricky williams or ronnie brown. i PRAY

 

[Roman529]

Sounds like the Dirty Bird lurkers who are coming to this site to take a look are more worried about how everyone feels about their hero (Vick) as a QB, than they are concerned about the game. :sleep:

 

[atlfalc]

Well I hope the falcons coaches think like you... Lets not scheme against the R&R express because one is a pot addict and one is a rookie... It'll make our lives 100 times easier then, for we'll run for something like 50 carries for 250 yds.... final score then 31-7... that has to be the stupidest way of some1 trying to get their point across that I've ever seen... and yes Vick is overrated as a passer, which is the primary function of a QB, is it not?

It amazes me how many people, even the so-called "experts" get this wrong. No, the primary function of a QB is not to be a "passer". The primary function of a QB is to be a leader and move his team down the field effectively. How this is accomplished doesn't matter. Whether he runs the ball, throws it or does cartwheels shouldn't matter as long as the team scores points. The fact of the matter is that Vick is a leader and can move this team effectively. Most people can't accept the fact that a QB can be a runner and be a winner.

 

[dolfan4good]

It amazes me how many people, even the so-called "experts" get this wrong. No, the primary function of a QB is not to be a "passer". The primary function of a QB is to be a leader and move his team down the field effectively. How this is accomplished doesn't matter. Whether he runs the ball, throws it or does cartwheels shouldn't matter as long as the team scores points. The fact of the matter is that Vick is a leader and can move this team effectively. Most people can't accept the fact that a QB can be a runner and be a winner.

Name one QB that has won consistently with his legs and not his arm. Even the best running QB's eventually had to stop all the running and begin to throw the ball effectively.

 

[Fin-Loco]

Just wanted to drop in to see what the opposing teams is talking about. I have read several post about Vick, but most of you don't get it I see, I gonna keep it short and sweet, The key word is gameplan, how many players do opposing coaches game plan around.

Chris Simms No
Frerotte Hell No
Manning Hell Yes
Brady Hell Yes
Ricky Williams Maybe when he's off the dope for a year
Ronnie Brown Soon but not yet

Basically how can a guy be overrated, when he is the main focus of a defensive coordinator game plan every week.

Sounds good to me. Go ahead and DON'T gameplan for Ricky and Ronnie. I'm sure that'll work out just fine at OUR stadium when the players are pumped celebrating Marino at Half Time. I'm sure you'll pull out a huge W that way. I'll tell you what, We'll call Saban and just tell him to forfeit for you.

 

[DolfanTom]

Just wanted to drop in to see what the opposing teams is talking about. I have read several post about Vick, but most of you don't get it I see, I gonna keep it short and sweet, The key word is gameplan, how many players do opposing coaches game plan around.

Chris Simms No
Frerotte Hell No
Manning Hell Yes
Brady Hell Yes
Ricky Williams Maybe when he's off the dope for a year
Ronnie Brown Soon but not yet

Basically how can a guy be overrated, when he is the main focus of a defensive coordinator game plan every week.

Dude, we get that you have to game plan for this guy's freakish athletic gifts. He is fun to watch, and I make an effort w/ my Sunday Ticket to check him out as much as possible, because you never kno when he'll make a freakish big play.

That said, we say he's "overrated" because his overall effectiveness as a QB does not match the hype. Doesn't mean he's not a good QB, or that I wouldn't want him on my team - but the hype doesn't match overall QUARTERBACK production. His hype says he's Dan Marino, or Joe Montana, or TO or D. McNabb. But the reality is he's a freakishly gifted athlete who makes some big plays, but won't produce to the level of the aforementioned players.

That's where this is coming from.

 

[DolfanTom]

Oh, and I beg of you Falcons - please, please don't gameplan for Ricky and Ronnie. Please don't!!!

Do you have any idea how much these guys would run all over you if you didn't have a strategy going in??

 

[BlueFin]

It amazes me how many people, even the so-called "experts" get this wrong. No, the primary function of a QB is not to be a "passer". The primary function of a QB is to be a leader and move his team down the field effectively. How this is accomplished doesn't matter. Whether he runs the ball, throws it or does cartwheels shouldn't matter as long as the team scores points. The fact of the matter is that Vick is a leader and can move this team effectively. Most people can't accept the fact that a QB can be a runner and be a winner.

No, you have it wrong, we all respect Vicks ability to run the football, its his career 53% completetion percentage that points out he is not a complete quarterback.

The problem with Vick is also that he is not durable enough to run it enough to be reliable, how many games has he missed already in his short career?

Vicks is the kinda of guy who will frequently disapoint you as he falls to injury during a promising season.

Yes, hes a good football player, excellent athlete, but as a Quarterback he is not the total package.

The quarterback position is so important on a team I'm not sure having a QB that runs it so often and takes hits is the way to go.

I certainly would not pick Vick if I was starting a team, he would be way down my list of the current QB's.