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Henne Getting Attention For Impressive Scrimmage

Just as moronic as writing Henne off after a couple bad practices, is considering him somehow "fixed" after a couple of good ones. Then again... I don't think that's what's happening here. So far, some guys have said it's great to hear - and yeah, it is.

Media always overblows things - and we tend to help them. Sure, it was encouraging (as the article said). Hopefully he keeps it up. But so far nothing has changed - he's still the up-and-down guy he was last year, with lousy play at one time and fantastic at another. If he shows any consistency at all, *then* you can make judgements.

I'm very much looking forward to the preseason.
 
The verdict is out on Henne still. But give the man a chance. He played under some questionable playcalling and no speed at Wr let alone on offense. Orton is good but he has a losing record. The broncos would of trade him if Tebow didin't look hoorible in camp
 
Ah the optimism of august...........it never changes!

right cause everybody needs to hate everything right? Oh... I mean be realistic.

Look contrary to what some people think being positive does not mean you think everybody within the organization has sun shining from every part of their body. I mean Henne throws 1 bad pass in practice and there's 10 threads about how he sucks and the FO sucks.

Though curiously, not many threads pop up when Henne does good.
 
I agree that Henne doesn't perform as well against zone coverage, but the other thing is that it's on the WRs as much as it is on Henne to recognize zone coverage. If the receivers dont recognize the zone and dont alter their routes to it, that is just as big of an issue as Henne not recognizing it. QB can't make a good throw or decision with WR running the wrong routes. I'd be willing to bet that it's a combination of players not recognizing zone, not just Henne.
 
the few times I've seen Dolphins games the past 2 years, he's looked pretty decent to me. Surprisingly so even.
 
The problem is the Dolphins defense was playing man coverage and Henne has always been good against man coverage. Henne just can't read defenses unless it's man-to-man. But even a 6 year old can read man-to-man.

Henne can't read any other D. All a defense has to do is mix their coverages and disguise presnap in cover 3, cover 2, or quarters coverage etc (or ANY type of zone coverages) and Henne and the dolphins offense are screwed

Other teams already know that henne sucks against any other defense, and that's why it was so rare for henne to see man defense after the first few games last season.

That's also why Henne looks decent against the blitz. Because the defensive backfield is in man coverage a large majority of the time when they send extra people.

Only the raiders were stupid enough later last season to play man 2 man exclusively throughout the game. Notice that as soon as they switched up to a zone for a couple of plays Henne was confused and threw a horrible ill advised pass to the middle of the field at the goal line for an easy INT with 3 Raiders around the ball with no Dolphin player in sight.. Of course, the Raiders then went back to man coverage after that for the most part -- they;re the raiders and they're stupid.

Do you remember a couple of years ago when Henne had like 16 straight completions against Jacksonville on the road? He was just one shy of the franchise record set by Griese. Well all those Henne completions were against man coverage that day. As soon as the Jags switched up to some zone looks in the 2nd half for the most part, Henne was lost, the dolphins relinquished their lead, henne threw INT's and made some horrible passes missing wide and away, and the dolphins were lucky to escape that game via the defense making some huge plays and the running game taking a bit of time off the clock. But Henne was awful later on with the zones.. and this has been a constant with him over the past 3 seasons.

The book is out on Henne and how to easily confuse and fluster him. The rest of the NFL has it down. Only with the rare exceptions like the Raiders ( and their stupidity as an organization along with injuries to Nnamdi and their 3rd DB that day) can Henne get a free ride to look better than he is.

In other words, don't get your hopes up over a couple of practices when Henne was facing man coverage. He won;t see those coverages in the regular season. The coaching staff probably decided to go to man coverage for a few days to raise his confidence level and take the Heat away from the "Orton chants", and all the anti-Henne stuff in the media. But that's about it. Don't look too deeply into this.

Exactly. ****ing win right there. I knew someone else had to realize this. I just didnt want to be the one to have to break the news.
 
Take a chill pill please!!!! How about maybe the new OC is calling plays that will put Henne in a position to be successfull. Never thought about that buddy???

Yea because last year the OC had a diabolical plan to purposely destroy Chad Henne by not playing into his strengths and therefore make the team look bad and go out into retirement on a ****ty season. Yea, that makes sense. GET REAL.
 
Yea because last year the OC had a diabolical plan to purposely destroy Chad Henne by not playing into his strengths and therefore make the team look bad and go out into retirement on a ****ty season. Yea, that makes sense. GET REAL.

Did you watch our games last year? Did you see 3rd and 12 playaction pass from the I formation? More than once? I did. Rich Gannon did and so did many others. Get your mouth off of Ryan's dick for ten seconds and realize that we have been playing with a 70's offense in 2010. If you can't see that we ran ****ty route trees than you don't know football.
 
While I am not making excuses or implying the problems with Henne are fixed in a few practices, there are things called qb coaches. If Henne's "problem" is more cerebral than athletic, it should be fixable if we had a good qb coach. It isn't like coverage schemes are the equivalent of rocket science and may be why some players take 3-4 years to really come into their own. He needs to trust what he sees and go through his reads instead of panicking and going check down. That is probably the end result of stupid Man Boobs and his air horn approach to qb training...
 
make no mistakes about it, Henne has to make improvements this year if he wants to be a starter in the league let alone our present and future, but there were a lot bad coaching decisions made last year. That being said, to blame it totally on Henne is not fair. Truth be told in 2008 when we won the division and 2009 when Henne showed promise, Henning was was very creative with his playcalling. It wasn't all just the Wildcat. Last year we lacked anything resembling creativity.
 
Did you watch our games last year? Did you see 3rd and 12 playaction pass from the I formation? More than once? I did. Rich Gannon did and so did many others. Get your mouth off of Ryan's dick for ten seconds and realize that we have been playing with a 70's offense in 2010. If you can't see that we ran ****ty route trees than you don't know football.

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You can also argue that Henning's archaic offense and limited route tree attributed to Henne's lack of success vs. Zones because the route combinations were designed to work against man....I didn't see our recievers run many option routes in the last couple years, and those are the kind of routes that beat zone defenses, especially when you have strong possession recievers like B Marshall and Bess....I'd say Daboll's scheme will probably arm Henne with the type of routes that will beat zone defenses

I'm telling ya, sometimes you watch those routes that the receivers were designed to run when Henning was OC, and the plays just never had a shot in hell. I think Daboll wants to spread the field and get the mismatches he should be able to create. Henning would put Henne in terrible positions, call if what you want but a 3rd down and long with Hartline as the only receiver and Kory Sperry with Fasano running a curl and a 5 yard out usually isn't the best play option. Make Henning tried to fool em with the fake? No idea.
 
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