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Henne's problem is pretty simple to me

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So much is being said about Henne whether it's accuracy issues, mental breakdowns, etc, etc.

I think it's pretty clear from watching Henne for so long what his problem is...

Henne, as we all know, likes to stare down his receivers.. So if his first read is open, bam, he's pretty damn accurate, and has a laser of an arm and that's where we as the fans say wow, kid has potential...

The problem lies when the first option is NOT open..

You can almost see a panic in Henne. He becomes tense in the pocket and he seems very uncomfortable and gets that robotic, stiff look and that's where things go downhill. He seems to quickly glance over his other options and ends up checking it down. This presents a problem because all this is happening within seconds and many times the pocket breaks down and that's when sh*t hits the fan bc he has some of the worst pocket awareness I've ever seen. He doesn't exactly know where to move in the pocket and a lot of times, goes down pretty easily with a defender around.

Henne needs to be MUCH quicker on his reads and become more instinctive in the pocket AND unfortunately I don't see him developing those skills. To me, that's one thing that Sanchez has that Henne does not have...which is pocket awareness. He has the ability to move around in the pocket and by doing this he keeps plays alive. His accuracy though, that's another story.
 
I don't get it, I mean if the first option isn't open, don't just stare him down. Look around, scan the freaking field. Make a play!
 
Henne's problem is pretty simple to me

Sorry bro but Henne doesn't have "a" problem, he has problemS.. and there's nothing "pretty" or "simple" about them.

No emotion or will to win. No pocket presence, lacks confidence, slow feet, clumsy, poor decision maker, has almost no athleticism to speak of, no touch on his passes, cannot drop passes behind linebackers or in front of safeties because of his lack of touch, has poor fundamentals (slow as molasses release, low release point, poor in the shotgun and he doesn't even like being in the shotgun, etc.), picks the wrong throwing lanes...

has more batted balls at the line of scrimmage than any QB in the league over the past 2 seasons (because of his low release point and poor choices of throwing lanes), he's inaccurate on deep passes and sideline throws , very poor in play action with his fakes, can't beat shell coverages to save his life, has a lot of problems against various zone coverages, has problems reading any defense unless it's straight up man 2 man, gets confused on pre-snap adjustments by the defense, he's not good at hitting receivers perfectly in stride while they're on the move (he's more of a stop dead-target QB where receivers are at a standstill like on curl routes etc), stares down receivers constantly...

but other than that, he's a pretty good QB
 
I agree but hes been in the league to know better than that.
 
Haha you're right.. I'm actually on the Moore bandwagon but I realize Henne will probably be the starter so I'm trying to rationalize
 
Haha you're right.. I'm actually on the Moore bandwagon but I realize Henne will probably be the starter so I'm trying to rationalize


Here ill help you....despite what the idiots on this site think...Moore is worse than Henne. Go look up their career stats
 
Sorry bro but Henne doesn't have "a" problem, he has problemS.. and there's nothing "pretty" or "simple" about them.

No emotion or will to win. No pocket presence, lacks confidence, slow feet, clumsy, poor decision maker, has almost no athleticism to speak of, no touch on his passes, cannot drop passes behind linebackers or in front of safeties because of his lack of touch, has poor fundamentals (slow as molasses release, low release point, poor in the shotgun and he doesn't even like being in the shotgun, etc.), picks the wrong throwing lanes...

has more batted balls at the line of scrimmage than any QB in the league over the past 2 seasons (because of his low release point and poor choices of throwing lanes), he's inaccurate on deep passes and sideline throws , very poor in play action with his fakes, can't beat shell coverages to save his life, has a lot of problems against various zone coverages, has problems reading any defense unless it's straight up man 2 man, gets confused on pre-snap adjustments by the defense, he's not good at hitting receivers perfectly in stride while they're on the move (he's more of a stop dead-target QB where receivers are at a standstill like on curl routes etc), stares down receivers constantly...

but other than that, he's a pretty good QB

This. I was going to make a similar list. Greyboy covered it well enough.
 
YoU are very correct in what you said about henne. Sad thing is. Those things cannot be corrected. Either you have it in you as a qb to be decisive or you don't. Henne doesn't and you can tell he is thinking more than actually playing. It's kinda like a person dancing and in his head he is counting the steps to make sure he stays on the beat. Meanwhile the other guy is grooving and having fun with the ladies.
 
???i don't get it. Moore has a better Td:int ratio and better winning %

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shhhhhhhh! Your making too much sense!!
 
On top of his deficiencies, Henne's development was botched by Sparano, Henning and Lee. If you look at Sancheeze, Schottenheimer scripts plays at the start of a game that Sanchez must throw. They consist of high percentage passes that instill confidence from the start. These clowns have forced Henne into thinking to deeply before he can get into a rythymn. A recipe for disaster not putting him in a good position.

Henne is not the future, plain and simple. I am done hoping he will develop because he wont. Given how this franchise handled his development though, IMO it's imperative that Sparano stay away from Daboll and let him work with the QBs. If Sparano somehow manages to hang onto his job next season, I have no confidence he can develop an actual QB prospect should they decide to draft one.
 
Sorry bro but Henne doesn't have "a" problem, he has problemS.. and there's nothing "pretty" or "simple" about them.

No emotion or will to win. No pocket presence, lacks confidence, slow feet, clumsy, poor decision maker, has almost no athleticism to speak of, no touch on his passes, cannot drop passes behind linebackers or in front of safeties because of his lack of touch, has poor fundamentals (slow as molasses release, low release point, poor in the shotgun and he doesn't even like being in the shotgun, etc.), picks the wrong throwing lanes...

has more batted balls at the line of scrimmage than any QB in the league over the past 2 seasons (because of his low release point and poor choices of throwing lanes), he's inaccurate on deep passes and sideline throws , very poor in play action with his fakes, can't beat shell coverages to save his life, has a lot of problems against various zone coverages, has problems reading any defense unless it's straight up man 2 man, gets confused on pre-snap adjustments by the defense, he's not good at hitting receivers perfectly in stride while they're on the move (he's more of a stop dead-target QB where receivers are at a standstill like on curl routes etc), stares down receivers constantly...

but other than that, he's a pretty good QB

Ah, the magic statements.

"No emotion or will to win"... trying to figure out how exactly you measure this one.

"No pocket presence, lacks confidence"... I've seen the guy, time and again, throw the ball with decision, stepping into the pocket, delivering the ball. He doesn't tend to throw out of his backfoot anymore. Please tell me again how do you justify this?

"Slow feet, clumsy"... He had awkward footwork coming into the league. He has noticeably improve this.

"Poor decision maker" --> This is valid, and his biggest problem.

"...almost no athleticism to speak of"... small sample size, but did you see him running @Atl? He looks fitter and much more agile. Still, given previous evidence I'll give you this one.

"No touch on his passes, cannot drop passes behind LBs or in front of S because of his lack of touch". Accuracy, granted.

"Poor fundamentals"... Mostly true, but... I thought coaches were supposed to help you with this?

"Picks the wrong throwing lanes" - Decision making, same problem stated twice.

"More batted balls at the LOS than any QB in the league over the past 2 seasons"... and your source is?

"Innacurate on deep passes and sideline throws" Accuracy, same problem stated twice. Also, he throws some great sideline throws.

"Very poor in play action with his fakes" Yup

"Can't beat shell coverages to save his life, has a lot of problems against various zone coverages, has problems reading any defense unless it's straight up man 2 man"... I made a whole thread over this one. Same as with the batted balls: where the hell is your source?

"Gets confused on pre-snap adjustments by the defense" Funny since he's had his best games against pre-snap adjustment extraordinaries, the Jets. Same thing, no evidence.

"Not good at hitting receivers perfectly in stride while they're on the move (he's more of a stop dead-target QB where receivers are at a standstill like on curl routes etc)" Many things wrong here: Accuracy, same problem now stated THRICE, plus to say he's better with still-man accuracy when he routinely throws these balls to the left or right of the receiver... ??? And worst of all, if being "not good at hitting receivers perfectly on stride" (emphasis mine) is a problem, something like 30 of the 32 starting QBs in the league have it.

"Stares down receivers constantly" Another big problem.

tl;dr you mentioned only 3 problems (decision making, accuracy, staring down receivers) but made it look like he has a HUGE list of problems. Admittedly, they're BIG problems, but they're not 10,000 different things. My biggest problem with this whole rant? You *love* to make unsubstantiated claims.

Put up your sources, or shut up already.
 
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