Here’s my final mock draft

[MARINO1384]

You're incorrect. Miami finished with the 4th ranked defense @ 313ypg. This was inspite of a lack of overall pass rush and several instances of missed tackles. Miami's secondary was one of the best in coverage metrics as well. Kudos to Weaver and the players for buying into the system.

Miami is in the mist of defensive makeover. DT, CB and Safety are all on the radar for the 2025 draft.

I’m not seeing what the incorrect part is?

I said Miami’s defense was good, you said Miami’s defense was good… they played well as a unit but lacked great overall players. You take great overall players at 13

Are you claiming Holland/poyer and Ramsey played at an elite level last year because all 3 had without a doubt the worst of their careers. If not I’m failing to see the point of your post.

 

[LargoFin]

Estime plays for the Broncos, Fluornoy for the Cowboys.

 

[dolfan91]

I’m not seeing what the incorrect part is?

I said Miami’s defense was good, you said Miami’s defense was good… they played well as a unit but lacked great overall players. You take great overall players at 13

Are you claiming Holland/poyer and Ramsey played at an elite level last year because all 3 had without a doubt the worst of their careers. If not I’m failing to see the point of your post.

I never said anything about Poyer, Holland and Ramsey.

 

[MARINO1384]

I never said anything about Poyer, Holland and Ramsey.

Was just listing reasons you claimed my post was incorrect? My original point was that Miami’s defense was good while we lacked great secondary players thus making spending 13 on a corner is a waste not only from the point of need, value or the fact that successful teams build inside out, not outside in. We tried the outside in with hill/waddle, Ramsey/ Howard, it doesn’t work.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

I would not take a Barron at 13. I'd take Banks. Estime is a Bronco and Flournoy is a Cowboy. Just FYI. I do like that your mock is trenches heavy.

 

[Danny]

F+

Corner in the first is an auto F, anything besides trenches is doomed to repeat the same fatal errors, it’s not how you build a good football team. Inside out, inside out, inside out.

You got the f+ because I like Tyliek would be higher but I see no way Jackson makes it to the 3rd. Highly unlikely Shough makes it to the 5th they are saying 2nd or 3rd for him but in any case I can’t justify a rb or qb in the 5th before going safety or corner again.

I want both lines taken care of as much as you do but CB is a big need also and the drop off from the top 3 corners(Hunter/johnson/Barron0 to the next is huge while DT and IOL are deep in this draft so I'm totally on board with Barron at 13 and then going both lines at 48 and 98....I actually want two DT's and two OL's in this draft.

having said that, I'm ok going DT at 13 as long as we don’t reach. As for IOL, I'd take Campbell or Membou at 13 but don’t think either one is there at that point. Simmons is coming back from injury and not sure Banks is worth taking at 13.

I like Harmon and Grant and if either is the pick at 13 then I'm fine with it.

 

[dolphinheel]

I am predicting what will happen, so your grade is irrelevant to me. I actually agree with you in the sense that I would draft trenches first, but the point of this is to see how accurate it is in terms of what the team is likely to do, at least that was my point. I also would predict we will sign one of the best remaining corners in FA Assante Samuel? another veteran guard such as Risner or Hernandez, and another veteran Dlineman. To help clear some cap space I’d give Sieler a new deal, and restructure Jordyn Brooks if neccessary.

It’s not the craziest idea considering we have nothing at corner other than Kohou and corner is considered a premium position.

I agree. We desperately need dline. Have to draft at least two. I agree we can fill one CB and one OG from FA.

 

[djphinfan]

I want to see the toughness and culture of the team improved. Get a dog at DT 1st, a monster in the OL at #48. We still need help at both positions but that's a good start. I now doubt there will be a trade down, I don't really see a team that needs enough to trade what we would want (at least a 2nd+). I do not even want Johnson at #13 or 48. He will probably eventually become a decent starter but we have more pressing needs and don't have time to wait for him to get healthy. I don't like the value of a corner at #13.

I’d be happy as hell with Barron at corner

 

[djphinfan]

I am predicting what will happen, so your grade is irrelevant to me. I actually agree with you in the sense that I would draft trenches first, but the point of this is to see how accurate it is in terms of what the team is likely to do, at least that was my point. I also would predict we will sign one of the best remaining corners in FA Assante Samuel? another veteran guard such as Risner or Hernandez, and another veteran Dlineman. To help clear some cap space I’d give Sieler a new deal, and restructure Jordyn Brooks if neccessary.

It’s not the craziest idea considering we have nothing at corner other than Kohou and corner is considered a premium position.

Ignore that dude I have

 

[Rayj2384]

F+

Corner in the first is an auto F, anything besides trenches is doomed to repeat the same fatal errors, it’s not how you build a good football team. Inside out, inside out, inside out.

You got the f+ because I like Tyliek would be higher but I see no way Jackson makes it to the 3rd. Highly unlikely Shough makes it to the 5th they are saying 2nd or 3rd for him but in any case I can’t justify a rb or qb in the 5th before going safety or corner again.

I think you'll love this. My phone spazzed out and didn't save but here are the picks with the caveat that we lost a 4th and 7th next year. I know it's 3 extra pick but the last 3 could go undrafted. I could've taken Kurtis Rourke at 253 if anyone likes that better. Let me know what you think

- 13. OT/LG(imo) Will Campbell
- 48. DT Kenneth Grant (after this I can't tell you the numbers but I trades back from 98)
- 125 DT Shemar Turner
- 133ish Edge/3-4 DT Savion Jones
- 135 OT Jalen Travis
- 140ish S Malachi Moore
- 140ish CB Korie Black
- 170ish CB Zah Frazier
- 185ish TE Mitchell Evans
- 208 S Hunter Wohler
- 224 OC Drew Kendall
- 231 3-4 pass rush end Elijah Williams (6'2 294, great career, great hbcu combine - 30 reps, relentless motor and worth a flier)
- 253 OG Xavier Truss

 

[MARINO1384]

I think you'll love this. My phone spazzed out and didn't save but here are the picks with the caveat that we lost a 4th and 7th next year. I know it's 3 extra pick but the last 3 could go undrafted. I could've taken Kurtis Rourke at 253 if anyone likes that better. Let me know what you think

- 13. OT/LG(imo) Will Campbell
- 48. DT Kenneth Grant (after this I can't tell you the numbers but I trades back from 98)
- 125 DT Shemar Turner
- 133ish Edge/3-4 DT Savion Jones
- 135 OT Jalen Travis
- 140ish S Malachi Moore
- 140ish CB Korie Black
- 170ish CB Zah Frazier
- 185ish TE Mitchell Evans
- 208 S Hunter Wohler
- 224 OC Drew Kendall
- 231 3-4 pass rush end Elijah Williams (6'2 294, great career, great hbcu combine - 30 reps, relentless motor and worth a flier)
- 253 OG Xavier Truss

Yeah top 3 OT/guards (banks/campbell/membou) and Grant are my top 4 players I’d want in the draft. J doubt Grant last that long but if it were to happen just the first two picks alone would make it an A+ for me

 

[Rayj2384]

Yeah top 3 OT/guards (banks/campbell/membou) and Grant are my top 4 players I’d want in the draft. J doubt Grant last that long but if it were to happen just the first two picks alone would make it an A+ for me

I know it's totally unrealistic but I thought you'd love this one too. I gave up a third next year but with Ramsey and Hill on the chopping block it might be able to be recouped. Idk if we'd have enough money for 16 picks but IMHO it would be a hell of a draft. I personally like my other one just bc it's more realistic but Williams, Grant, Broughton and Sieler up front to rotate would look like a Baltimore front. And I agree that Grant and Campbell most likely don't last that long but I'd be happy af for that draft.

 

[ONole1]

His turf toe is one of the main reasons I chose Barron over him as reports are he wasn’t testing well, still injured.

Now it seems like there are talks about long term knee issues.

 

[ONole1]

I mean I can’t say I’d be surprised but it’s a bad move no matter how you slice it. Corners are too handicapped by rules to matter or justify the 13th pick.

Throw storm duck/kader/smith/bonner out to the wolves maybe grab a corner in the 2nd but this draft should be trenches. Honestly wouldn’t be mad if they went oline/dline until the 5th then threw in a blocking tight end in the 6th or 7th

They way I look at it is position availability in the draft. There are only 4-5 CB's IMO that can start right away. If Johnson's medicals check out, he's the best in the class. Assuming Ramsey is gone, they don't have a CB 1 on the roster. You can get a starting OG, DT, and an edge that can contribute all the way through round 4. There aren't many CB's left in free agency that can step in and be a #1 either. I hate to draft for need, but they have pigeon holed themself into a CB there.

Normally I would agree with you, but if you aren't going CB, I would go edge so I can pressure the crap out of the opposing QB.

 

[AntMan231]

I really dont get the "no CB's in the 1st RD" thing....I dont care what positions we select at what pick, I care about the player. It doesn't matter what position you take, it matters who you pick. Sorry, but to pigeon hole yourself into having to take something is bad practice, in my opinion. And Jahdae Barron is not a reach at 13, at all. Theres a good chance he's gone before Miami even picks and is the 1st CB off the board that's not named Hunter.

If Barron was the best player on the board and this class wasn't as deep as it is at DL or OL then I could understand you have to get a really good one early. This class is deep enough to get 2 or 3 guys at OL and DL EACH and satisfy the need. Also, depending who you draft, you may not need as many as you think. If Dolphins can get a guy like Alfred Collins that can play 800 snaps, the need is met and you're drafting for depth or an upgrade over Benito which doesn't take a high draft pick. OL, if you get a starting OG, the line is set, and then again, everything else is depth.