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Here's Why The Dolphins Should Draft A Qb Every Year

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With the 2018 season in the rear view for the Fins, the coaching and QB search is on. Moving forward, Chris Grier should draft a QB every single year. Yes, even if they Tank for Tua or Flop for Fromm or Lose for Lawrence. They should draft one in 2019. And 2020. And 2021. And 2022.

And I'll tell you several reasons why:

1) For every heralded college QB who's successful at the NFL level, there's one who flops. For every Andrew Luck, there's a RG3. For every Brett Favre, a Todd Marinovich. For every Aaron Rodgers, a Jason Cambpell. You have to keep trying, until you get the right guy. And NOBODY knows who the right guy is every time. Nobody. No, not even you, Mr. "Anyone Who Knows Football Could See That QB Was Going To Fail."

2) QBs get injured. And this also factors into the above point. Quarterbacks are hard to find. If anything has been proved during the Gase Era, it's this: You need to have a serviceable backup if your starter gets hurt. And yes, there is the mantra of "Well, there are very few teams in the NFL with a good backup." This is true. Wouldn't it be nice to be one of those teams?

3) This is the one that I keep going back to, and I think it has been criminally overlooked since the new CBA was established in 2012: QBs on their rookie contracts are incredibly valuable. Let's look at it this way: Next year, Matthew Stafford is going to cost the Lions over 29 million dollars. That's over 3 million dollars more than Baker Mayfield is going to cost the Browns for the next three seasons combined. And Mayfield was the #1 overall pick. Lower round QBs, if you hit on them, are even more valuable.

Want an example of that? Look at DeShone Kizer. Deshone Kizer was AWFUL as a rookie for the Browns in 2017. And yet the Browns were able to trade him to the Packers for a decent safety and a couple pick swaps. Why? Because he's a backup QB who will cost the team next to nothing; he's locked up on a rookie contract through 2020. That's why it made sense for the Fins to nab Luke Falk, and it makes more sense to give him as many reps as possible in preseason next year. He costs the Dolphins almost nothing to keep, and if he sets the world on fire, he could bring something back in return. Like Kizer, Falk is locked in to a contract until 2021. Per league rules, he can't even try to renegotiate his contract until his fourth year in the league.

There is no reason the Fins shouldn't do this. Not in the first round every year, obviously, but somewhere along the line. There will be wasted picks, just like there are wasted picks at *every* position, but if you hit every once in a while, the return could be tremendous.
 
I agree, because when they fail they can play linebacker or offense of guard or defensive end maybe strong safety. As bad and as weak as this team is that’s a terrible idea. IMO.....
 
If you give QBs three years to develop before waiving or trading them, you will go into camp with four QBs every year eventually. Also you generally want an experienced QB when your QB is young. Rule of thumb is if your starting QB is younger than 28 your backup should be all older than 28 and vice versa if your starter is older than 28 your backup should be younger.

So basically you shouldn't have more than two under 28 year old QBs on the roster at any time

Your plan is simply unworkable
 
If you give QBs three years to develop before waiving or trading them, you will go into camp with four QBs every year eventually. Also you generally want an experienced QB when your QB is young. Rule of thumb is if your starting QB is younger than 28 your backup should be all older than 28 and vice versa if your starter is older than 28 your backup should be younger.

So basically you shouldn't have more than two under 28 year old QBs on the roster at any time

Your plan is simply unworkable
Good to see you brother!
 
This is a solid college football plan and one that most schools use. The problem is you only have 53 roster spots in the NFL vs. 100 in college. This would just be wasted draft picks as you couldn't keep them on the roster long enough to see what you have.
 
If you give QBs three years to develop before waiving or trading them, you will go into camp with four QBs every year eventually. Also you generally want an experienced QB when your QB is young. Rule of thumb is if your starting QB is younger than 28 your backup should be all older than 28 and vice versa if your starter is older than 28 your backup should be younger.

So basically you shouldn't have more than two under 28 year old QBs on the roster at any time

Your plan is simply unworkable

I disagree, but I understand what you're saying. But yes, you would eventually carry four QBs into camp every year if every QB worked out.

They don't. There is simply no penalty for drafting a QB in the later rounds every year and cutting him if he isn't NFL material within the first year or two. And fully half of the QBs drafted every year don't make it. Again, it doesn't have to be a high round QB. THAT is unsustainable.

For example: There were 10 QB drafted in the 2017 NFL Draft. You know how many are still with the team that drafted them, less than two years later? Five.
 
maybe we should draft two guards every year till we get it right?

Agree. Let's start on the LOS and get the foundation right.

Then we can move on to skill positions etc.

I can't see a reason why you can't win, and win consistently (home or road, good weather or bad) with

a superior OL and an athlete QB like Lamar coupled with a RBs like we have (I'd look for an "H back" type

TE / lead blocker bulldozer) coupled with a stout D and physical WRs (love me another McDuffie)!

Leave the prissy gimmick crap alone and play hard nosed physical football from kickoff to final whistle.

Sure -- if we can get our hands on a Mahomes go for it -- but building a team with that specification as

the essential ingredient defines a very low percentage solution.

Reinvent the Ricky and Ronnie show on steroids (figuratively!) with an athletic QB + dudes like Drake

and Ballage then use one of our tots like Wilson or Grant via jet sweep etc.

Key point is you need an athlete @QB who's a RPO nightmare (as opposed to a pocket passer

or "superstar" rock chucker) with an OL that's built to MOVE PEOPLE and be physical #1.
 
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I don't agree with drafting quarterbacks just to draft them.

If you really like a guy who falls to you, and you feel he has a place on your roster, you draft him, sure. But drafting one just for the sake of doing it... is ultimately not a judicious use of resources.
 
1) For every heralded college QB who's successful at the NFL level, there's one who flops. For every Andrew Luck, there's a RG3. For every Brett Favre, a Todd Marinovich. For every Aaron Rodgers, a Jason Cambpell. You have to keep trying, until you get the right guy. And NOBODY knows who the right guy is every time. Nobody. No, not even you, Mr. "Anyone Who Knows Football Could See That QB Was Going To Fail.".

This is NOT THE REASON to draft a QB every year.

If it is a one to one relationship between success and failure of QBs in the draft, than after two drafts you will find one. No need to draft again, after year four. You ger two and you are done, you can get them anytime basically.

If on the other hand the relationship is not one-to-one, in other words if there is 1 successful quarterback for every 10 or 20 drafted, which is likely more consistent with facts, then you certainly should not gamble because likelihood is you will end up with a bunch of failures.

Boom, argument distroyed!
 
We used to do this back when we were a good team.

Every year might be excessive now with free agency and whatnot, but every 2 years or so should be the goal.

Keep the good one, flip the decent one, and develop the new one.
 
With the 2018 season in the rear view for the Fins, the coaching and QB search is on. Moving forward, Chris Grier should draft a QB every single year. Yes, even if they Tank for Tua or Flop for Fromm or Lose for Lawrence. They should draft one in 2019. And 2020. And 2021. And 2022.

And I'll tell you several reasons why:

1) For every heralded college QB who's successful at the NFL level, there's one who flops. For every Andrew Luck, there's a RG3. For every Brett Favre, a Todd Marinovich. For every Aaron Rodgers, a Jason Cambpell. You have to keep trying, until you get the right guy. And NOBODY knows who the right guy is every time. Nobody. No, not even you, Mr. "Anyone Who Knows Football Could See That QB Was Going To Fail."

2) QBs get injured. And this also factors into the above point. Quarterbacks are hard to find. If anything has been proved during the Gase Era, it's this: You need to have a serviceable backup if your starter gets hurt. And yes, there is the mantra of "Well, there are very few teams in the NFL with a good backup." This is true. Wouldn't it be nice to be one of those teams?

3) This is the one that I keep going back to, and I think it has been criminally overlooked since the new CBA was established in 2012: QBs on their rookie contracts are incredibly valuable. Let's look at it this way: Next year, Matthew Stafford is going to cost the Lions over 29 million dollars. That's over 3 million dollars more than Baker Mayfield is going to cost the Browns for the next three seasons combined. And Mayfield was the #1 overall pick. Lower round QBs, if you hit on them, are even more valuable.

Want an example of that? Look at DeShone Kizer. Deshone Kizer was AWFUL as a rookie for the Browns in 2017. And yet the Browns were able to trade him to the Packers for a decent safety and a couple pick swaps. Why? Because he's a backup QB who will cost the team next to nothing; he's locked up on a rookie contract through 2020. That's why it made sense for the Fins to nab Luke Falk, and it makes more sense to give him as many reps as possible in preseason next year. He costs the Dolphins almost nothing to keep, and if he sets the world on fire, he could bring something back in return. Like Kizer, Falk is locked in to a contract until 2021. Per league rules, he can't even try to renegotiate his contract until his fourth year in the league.

There is no reason the Fins shouldn't do this. Not in the first round every year, obviously, but somewhere along the line. There will be wasted picks, just like there are wasted picks at *every* position, but if you hit every once in a while, the return could be tremendous.
Main reason to draft a qb ever year is because we haven’t had a good one since 1999
 
With the 2018 season in the rear view for the Fins, the coaching and QB search is on. Moving forward, Chris Grier should draft a QB every single year. Yes, even if they Tank for Tua or Flop for Fromm or Lose for Lawrence. They should draft one in 2019. And 2020. And 2021. And 2022.

And I'll tell you several reasons why:

1) For every heralded college QB who's successful at the NFL level, there's one who flops. For every Andrew Luck, there's a RG3. For every Brett Favre, a Todd Marinovich. For every Aaron Rodgers, a Jason Cambpell. You have to keep trying, until you get the right guy. And NOBODY knows who the right guy is every time. Nobody. No, not even you, Mr. "Anyone Who Knows Football Could See That QB Was Going To Fail."

2) QBs get injured. And this also factors into the above point. Quarterbacks are hard to find. If anything has been proved during the Gase Era, it's this: You need to have a serviceable backup if your starter gets hurt. And yes, there is the mantra of "Well, there are very few teams in the NFL with a good backup." This is true. Wouldn't it be nice to be one of those teams?

3) This is the one that I keep going back to, and I think it has been criminally overlooked since the new CBA was established in 2012: QBs on their rookie contracts are incredibly valuable. Let's look at it this way: Next year, Matthew Stafford is going to cost the Lions over 29 million dollars. That's over 3 million dollars more than Baker Mayfield is going to cost the Browns for the next three seasons combined. And Mayfield was the #1 overall pick. Lower round QBs, if you hit on them, are even more valuable.

Want an example of that? Look at DeShone Kizer. Deshone Kizer was AWFUL as a rookie for the Browns in 2017. And yet the Browns were able to trade him to the Packers for a decent safety and a couple pick swaps. Why? Because he's a backup QB who will cost the team next to nothing; he's locked up on a rookie contract through 2020. That's why it made sense for the Fins to nab Luke Falk, and it makes more sense to give him as many reps as possible in preseason next year. He costs the Dolphins almost nothing to keep, and if he sets the world on fire, he could bring something back in return. Like Kizer, Falk is locked in to a contract until 2021. Per league rules, he can't even try to renegotiate his contract until his fourth year in the league.

There is no reason the Fins shouldn't do this. Not in the first round every year, obviously, but somewhere along the line. There will be wasted picks, just like there are wasted picks at *every* position, but if you hit every once in a while, the return could be tremendous.

A follow up question. Which QB needy teams do this?
 
Why don’t we just use every pick we have on QBs until we hit one? Imagine that? 7-8 QBs per year taken in the draft?
 
I mean... you cant be serious?
 
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