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HOLLIDAY: “THERE’S NO LOYALTY IN THIS LEAGUE”

Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 2, 2009, 8:29 p.m. EST
Defensive end Vonnie Holliday was cut by the Miami Dolphins earlier today, a sobering reminder to the Dolphins’ team captain about the harsh business side of the NFL.
In a subsequent interview with Tim Graham of ESPN.com, Holliday said he isn’t angry at the Dolphins. Holliday was cut prior to a scheduled $1.5 million roster bonus Tuesday.
“There’s no loyalty in this league,” Holliday said. “Everybody throws that word around, but at the end of the day, it’s a business. It’s about numbers.

“I’ve seen it happen in this business before. I’ve been around a long time. Now I’m that guy. But I have no hard feelings towards the Dolphins.”
Apparently, there were some early talks with Dolphins executive Bill Parcells about a new contract, but it didn’t go anywhere.
“Bill and I talked about the initial offer,” Holliday said. “I told him where I stand, thought we would butt heads and eventually come together on something we both could live with — at least be offered a chance to say, ‘This is it. This is the final offer.’ But it never happened.
“I thought things would have played out a little differently. You’re talking about a guy who was one of the team leaders there. At the end of the day, I had no idea … This isn’t how I expected it to play out or how I envisioned it.”
The Dolphins issued a press release after releasing Holliday, who had 3 1/2 sacks and 46 tackles last season.
“These types of decisions are always difficult ones, especially with someone like Vonnie, who has been a role model both on the field and off it,” Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland said in a statement. “He was one of our captains last year and was a proven leader, not just in his tenure with the Dolphins, but throughout his 11-year career.
“We are grateful for all his contributions to the Miami Dolphins organization and we want to wish him and his family the best of luck in the future.”



thats messed up i wish we could of kept him
 
It's business pure and simple. I am not happy Vonnie Holliday is gone, but you only have so much money to spread out among 53 guys or so. Best wishes Vonnie.
 
The NFL has gotta set a flat rate for draft picks.Theres no way Jake Long should be the highest paid Olineman without ever playing a down.
 
nasty said:
HOLLIDAY: “THERE’S NO LOYALTY IN THIS LEAGUE”

Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 2, 2009, 8:29 p.m. EST
Defensive end Vonnie Holliday was cut by the Miami Dolphins earlier today, a sobering reminder to the Dolphins’ team captain about the harsh business side of the NFL.
In a subsequent interview with Tim Graham of ESPN.com, Holliday said he isn’t angry at the Dolphins. Holliday was cut prior to a scheduled $1.5 million roster bonus Tuesday.
“There’s no loyalty in this league,” Holliday said. “Everybody throws that word around, but at the end of the day, it’s a business. It’s about numbers.

“I’ve seen it happen in this business before. I’ve been around a long time. Now I’m that guy. But I have no hard feelings towards the Dolphins.”
Apparently, there were some early talks with Dolphins executive Bill Parcells about a new contract, but it didn’t go anywhere.
“Bill and I talked about the initial offer,” Holliday said. “I told him where I stand, thought we would butt heads and eventually come together on something we both could live with — at least be offered a chance to say, ‘This is it. This is the final offer.’ But it never happened.
“I thought things would have played out a little differently. You’re talking about a guy who was one of the team leaders there. At the end of the day, I had no idea … This isn’t how I expected it to play out or how I envisioned it.”
The Dolphins issued a press release after releasing Holliday, who had 3 1/2 sacks and 46 tackles last season.
“These types of decisions are always difficult ones, especially with someone like Vonnie, who has been a role model both on the field and off it,” Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland said in a statement. “He was one of our captains last year and was a proven leader, not just in his tenure with the Dolphins, but throughout his 11-year career.
“We are grateful for all his contributions to the Miami Dolphins organization and we want to wish him and his family the best of luck in the future.”



thats messed up i wish we could of kept him
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You said it perfectly yourself Vonnie! If you were loyal, you would've taken that small paycut, but we all know that would've never happened, right? Sometimes it works both ways. I appreciate what he did for us while he was here, but again it all comes down to business and the money for these players. These players are making millions and millions of dollars, but when they're offered to take a cut of a million or two, they scream the same rhetoric over and over: "No Loyalty". Look in the mirror Vonnie, you're no longer in your prime. Although we would've loved to continue having you on the team, you've got to realize that you'll be 34 before the end of next season. But, alas, we will move on and so will you...and again wish you nothing but luck in the rest of your NFL career...unless of course, that happens to be in a divisional opponent's jersey! :chuckle:
 
CalDolFan10x14 said:
You said it perfectly yourself Vonnie! If you were loyal, you would've taken that small paycut, but we all know that would've never happened, right? Sometimes it works both ways. I appreciate what he did for us while he was here, but again it all comes down to business and the money for these players. These players are making millions and millions of dollars, but when they're offered to take a cut of a million or two, they scream the same rhetoric over and over: "No Loyalty". Look in the mirror Vonnie, you're no longer in your prime. Although we would've loved to continue having you on the team, you've got to realize that you'll be 34 before the end of next season. But, alas, we will move on and so will you...and again wish you nothing but luck in the rest of your NFL career...unless of course, that happens to be in a divisional opponent's jersey! :chuckle:
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:up: Yea That :lol2::lol2:
 
CalDolFan10x14 said:
You said it perfectly yourself Vonnie! If you were loyal, you would've taken that small paycut, but we all know that would've never happened, right? Sometimes it works both ways. I appreciate what he did for us while he was here, but again it all comes down to business and the money for these players. These players are making millions and millions of dollars, but when they're offered to take a cut of a million or two, they scream the same rhetoric over and over: "No Loyalty". Look in the mirror Vonnie, you're no longer in your prime. Although we would've loved to continue having you on the team, you've got to realize that you'll be 34 before the end of next season. But, alas, we will move on and so will you...and again wish you nothing but luck in the rest of your NFL career...unless of course, that happens to be in a divisional opponent's jersey! :chuckle:
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not to defend these NFL players who earn millions compared to us regular Joe's, who probably would be more than happy to earn the salary of backup kicker - but I feel the angle Vonnie (and plenty other NFL players) are coming from would be comparing his situation to a regular 9 to 5 job in an office. i.e. if you have worked for the same organisation for a number of years you wouldn't expect to a take a pay cut for all the years you have worked at an organisation. In fact you would hope your boss rewards you for your loyalty to the company!

I can understand that a sports organisation will be run somewhat differently from a finance/retail/generic company, but its still a business at the end of the day with employees (players) being employed.

Just my two pennies worth!
 
Its sad that everything in life is about money. As soon as College football has a playoff system, you will see a shift towards college dominating in popularity over the NFL. The National Championship will blow the superbowl out of the water. Commercials will cost 2 million a second, lol. But see, once again, its about the money!
 
Welcome to reality Vonnie. Look around my friend, it happens in every business. People get fired, let go, cut, how ever you want to call it-at the end of the day it's a business decision. Obviously our FO feels Merling is ready. We now have to young DE's!!!!!!



Thank you for your time here Vonnie! :up:
 
vonnie's time was getting cut as it is... we have 2 young DEs with great potential in Langford and Merling... not to mention Starks, Dotson, Wright, etc... it was a numbers game, and his price tag for the amount of snaps we'd give him didn't add up... i wish nothing but the best for Vonnie he is a class act...
 
nasty said:
HOLLIDAY: “THERE’S NO LOYALTY IN THIS LEAGUE”

Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 2, 2009, 8:29 p.m. EST
Defensive end Vonnie Holliday was cut by the Miami Dolphins earlier today, a sobering reminder to the Dolphins’ team captain about the harsh business side of the NFL.
In a subsequent interview with Tim Graham of ESPN.com, Holliday said he isn’t angry at the Dolphins. Holliday was cut prior to a scheduled $1.5 million roster bonus Tuesday.
“There’s no loyalty in this league,” Holliday said. “Everybody throws that word around, but at the end of the day, it’s a business. It’s about numbers.

“I’ve seen it happen in this business before. I’ve been around a long time. Now I’m that guy. But I have no hard feelings towards the Dolphins.”
Apparently, there were some early talks with Dolphins executive Bill Parcells about a new contract, but it didn’t go anywhere.
“Bill and I talked about the initial offer,” Holliday said. “I told him where I stand, thought we would butt heads and eventually come together on something we both could live with — at least be offered a chance to say, ‘This is it. This is the final offer.’ But it never happened.
“I thought things would have played out a little differently. You’re talking about a guy who was one of the team leaders there. At the end of the day, I had no idea … This isn’t how I expected it to play out or how I envisioned it.”
The Dolphins issued a press release after releasing Holliday, who had 3 1/2 sacks and 46 tackles last season.
“These types of decisions are always difficult ones, especially with someone like Vonnie, who has been a role model both on the field and off it,” Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland said in a statement. “He was one of our captains last year and was a proven leader, not just in his tenure with the Dolphins, but throughout his 11-year career.
“We are grateful for all his contributions to the Miami Dolphins organization and we want to wish him and his family the best of luck in the future.”



thats messed up i wish we could of kept him
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I never understood players and their concept of "loyalty" if you are loyal to your team wouldnt you think you would take that pay cut put the team before your greeds? I mean he's been in 11 years and he's gotten paid very well so imo he's well off so he doesnt need all that money or does he
 
hammersmithlad said:
not to defend these NFL players who earn millions compared to us regular Joe's, who probably would be more than happy to earn the salary of backup kicker - but I feel the angle Vonnie (and plenty other NFL players) are coming from would be comparing his situation to a regular 9 to 5 job in an office. i.e. if you have worked for the same organisation for a number of years you wouldn't expect to a take a pay cut for all the years you have worked at an organisation. In fact you would hope your boss rewards you for your loyalty to the company!

I can understand that a sports organisation will be run somewhat differently from a finance/retail/generic company, but its still a business at the end of the day with employees (players) being employed.

Just my two pennies worth!
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Understand your point. However, you're comparing apples to oranges. Normal every business is about knowledge. Football, with the exception of a very few positions (QB being the most obvious), is plain and simple speed, size and strength. Technique, plays, etc. can usually be tought. But if the skills surrounding the speed and strength are starting to go, then knowlege can't make up for it. It's a sad fact, but a nature of the beast in the NFL. Look at how many guys come out of college each year trying to make the NFL. There's only 1664 roster (jobs) in the NFL each year. It's a very doggi-dog business and unfortunately good people lose their spots. One way to help some of the vets is for the NFL and Players union to agree to a rookie salary cap coming out college (like in the NBA). Make them prove themselves before giving them big pay-days. This will free up more $$ for vets who deserve it.
 
Come on Vonnie, it is a numbers game and you didn't justr figure that out yeaterday. The coahces and owners are in a tough spot. They have no choice but get better us fans won't allow anything less. If we stand by our morals it would be a different story but all us fans care about is winning, so that means alll the coaches and owners care about is winning. All you had to do was have 12.5 sacks and 60 tckls last year and you'd still be a Dolphin, but you didn't, so you're not.

For the record I liked Vonnie, I respected what he brought to the team, but every player reaches a point where they can be replaced. This was his time with us. I think he was a littel upset because he knows this ship was headed in the right direction and he wanted to be part of that and who can blame him? In the end though it is a numbers game and he was part of the numbers. Now he'll end up in NE just like every other pissed off veteran player who feels they were given the shaft and he'll wind up winning a SB.
 
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