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I was watching the Superbowl and noticed that the Panthers coaches kept making the same mistakes. On 3rd and long downs they continued to allow Miller to get 1 on 1 and destroyed that tackle. How confident are you with Adam Gase and our Assistants to make adjustments? I think they should of put an extra OL on Miller's side. That would've helped. It sucks to see the Panthers lose. I was actually rooting for them and felt they had tons of opportunities. Manning was playing like **** and was throwing duds.
 
Dthrill_08 said:
I was watching the Superbowl and noticed that the Panthers coaches kept making the same mistakes. On 3rd and long downs they continued to allow Miller to get 1 on 1 and destroyed that tackle. How confident are you with Adam Gase and our Assistants to make adjustments? I think they should of put an extra OL on Miller's side. That would've helped. It sucks to see the Panthers lose. I was actually rooting for them and felt they had tons of opportunities. Manning was playing like **** and was throwing duds.
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Coaching is hugely important. No team is made up of all probowlers. A good coach builds on his team's strengths and hides the weakness and attacks the other team's weakness while limiting their strength. Great coaches also have the uncanny ability to make game-to-game adjustments based on the opponent you face and even in-game adjustments if things go wrong.
Great coaches can put mediocre players in positions to succeed. I.e. if your best corner is 5'10" and a great tackler but facing a 6'2" receiver and constantly being outjumped you may be better off putting a tall corner in whose reputation in tackling is not that great but can compete for the high passes and maybe break off a pass.
It's the little decisions which put your team in a position to win which makes coaches great.

Unfortunately the only coaches we get are college coaches who are better off pimping around with young college boys rather than coaching men to fist-bumping FG aficionados to a line of dull coaches who stand on the sidelines with their mouth open like they are trying to catch flies with looks on their faces they could compete for Forrest Gump II.

And in regards to Manning. Great coaches know when it is time to change the future. Playing Osweiler for longer than they had too gave them an opportunity to have a look at the possible future. Osweiler is an UFA. Manning will count 21.5 Mill against the cap if he stays. If they cut Manning 19 Mill come off the books and they can resign Osweiler easily. And they found that out during their Superbowl season. How great is that?

And what do we do? In a mediocre season we hold back our #1 running back in order to save us some bonus money and trying to low ball in the offseason and hoping no other team caught an eye of him.
 
phins_4_ever said:
Coaching is hugely important. No team is made up of all probowlers. A good coach builds on his team's strengths and hides the weakness and attacks the other team's weakness while limiting their strength. Great coaches also have the uncanny ability to make game-to-game adjustments based on the opponent you face and even in-game adjustments if things go wrong.
Great coaches can put mediocre players in positions to succeed. I.e. if your best corner is 5'10" and a great tackler but facing a 6'2" receiver and constantly being outjumped you may be better off putting a tall corner in whose reputation in tackling is not that great but can compete for the high passes and maybe break off a pass.
It's the little decisions which put your team in a position to win which makes coaches great.

Unfortunately the only coaches we get are college coaches who are better off pimping around with young college boys rather than coaching men to fist-bumping FG aficionados to a line of dull coaches who stand on the sidelines with their mouth open like they are trying to catch flies with looks on their faces they could compete for Forrest Gump II.

And in regards to Manning. Great coaches know when it is time to change the future. Playing Osweiler for longer than they had too gave them an opportunity to have a look at the possible future. Osweiler is an UFA. Manning will count 21.5 Mill against the cap if he stays. If they cut Manning 19 Mill come off the books and they can resign Osweiler easily. And they found that out during their Superbowl season. How great is that?

And what do we do? In a mediocre season we hold back our #1 running back in order to save us some bonus money and trying to low ball in the offseason and hoping no other team caught an eye of him.
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I think as dolphins fan we need great coach in afc battle n.e bills,jets, pit, cin bal, ind, den, kc,oak, tx.
 
Great coaching can mask roster defeciencies. A great roster cam only mask a mediocre coach for so long. Take Gary Kubiak. Kubiak's system is almost a guaranteed great ol and great running game. Doesn't matter whose on the ream.
 
Its funny that there seem to be different schools of thought in the NFL. Each successfull when executed properly.

Lone Genius model
Think Apple under Jobs.
Its a situation where one guy runs the show and everything is an extension of them.
Bill Belicheck/Pats
Pete Carroll/Seahawks


The Program/School of thought model
These places have a way of doing things. It has been that way for decades. Packers are the best example. They have done things the same way since Ron Wolf was there. This makes it really easy to find scheme fits since they have been looking for the same type of players for so long. This also leads to retention of position coaches that succeed in teaching the game the way the packers want to be taught.
Green Bayl
Pittsburgh
New England- Belicheck runs the show but the Pats clearly have a school of thought and a blueprint that they want. They never bring in assistants that werent already associated with the team.
To some extent Giants

The Collaborative Incubator Approach.
Baltimore Ravens- The gold standard for this approach. No one does a better job of bringing in an elite coach and asking him to take a demotion to work for them. Guys that have gone through the system then get flipped back out as a HC. Kubiak was just the latest one.
Cincinnati is kind of Baltimore Junior. Its less that they bring in vet coaches as much as they are an incubator of young coaches. Though notable exceptions exist such as Mike Zimmer and Hue Jackson.
Dallas- JJ basically assembles the best staff that money can buy.

The thing that basically kills the Dolphins is a lack of stability and lack of a unifying mission.
We also did not have an adequate staff, because we were always building from scratch.
Our HC should have been an assistant
Our Assistants should have been positional coaches
Our positional coaches shouldnt have jobs.
 
Coaching can be a large factor, but I don't think it's as big of a factor as matchups on the field. I don't think the Panthers were greatly outcoached, but they never came up with a plan on offense to counter Denver's scheme. We can all agree that Belicheck is a hall of fame coach, and he couldn't find a way to fix New England's protection issues against Denver...or against us for that matter.

Look at the Denver defense and you see a lot of good players playing at a high level. Sometimes there is no counter for that, especially if you don't have the players to execute a counter.
 
How important is coaching?...look at our team for the last 18 years....that pretty much sums it up.
 
NFL is a coaches league, unlike the NBA for instance, where 1 player can win you 40 games.
 
AJ Duhe said:
Coaching can be a large factor, but I don't think it's as big of a factor as matchups on the field. I don't think the Panthers were greatly outcoached, but they never came up with a plan on offense to counter Denver's scheme. We can all agree that Belicheck is a hall of fame coach, and he couldn't find a way to fix New England's protection issues against Denver...or against us for that matter.

Look at the Denver defense and you see a lot of good players playing at a high level. Sometimes there is no counter for that, especially if you don't have the players to execute a counter.
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Isn't that exactly what coaches are supposed to do?

Players are put in position (by coaching) to succeed. Does it come down to the matchups on the field? Yep. But coaches are responsible to pick the right plays and give the players a chance to succeed. Otherwise no need for playbooks or play calling. You just tell your players "go out there and do what you do best".
 
Have you ever seen Miamis coaches, then watched a well coached team play? Well coached teams don't quit on their coaches
 
foozool13 said:
NFL is a coaches league, unlike the NBA for instance, where 1 player can win you 40 games.
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I do agree that coaching matters much more in NFL although there are coaches like Brad Stevens who can make quite a difference
 
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