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Are Gronk, Aaron Hernandez, and Wes Welker significantly better than Charles Clay, Tony Fasano, and Davone Bess or does the difference come from play calling, having a good O-line, and Tom Brady?[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]
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Welker, Hernandez, Gronkowski >>>>> Clay, Fasano, Bess.

And even more importantly, Brady >>>>>>>>>> Moore.

We have a better D than theirs, but until we get a very good QB, we won't be able to overtake them in the AFC East.
 
Let see...Gronk....90 rec for 1300 yds and 17 tds....Fasano...32 rec for 451 yds and 5 tds..Do I really need to go on? There is no comparison. They are flat out better. Fasano is an average TE...actually not even that...He needs to be upgraded badly. Bess is OK...that's it...And Clay...he is just a rookie that made a few good plays, but shouldn't even be in the conversation....Yes...they are that much better...and it isn't just Brady.
 
If a player can block a defender, they can block someone.

Hence, if a player can block they can, hence if they can't they cant. (Colombo) I think Jerry deserves an audition at RT but if we draft one I wouldn't be upset at all to have him as a backup on the line or even at RG
 
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Let see...Gronk....90 rec for 1300 yds and 17 tds....Fasano...32 rec for 451 yds and 5 tds..Do I really need to go on? There is no comparison. They are flat out better. Fasano is an average TE...actually not even that...He needs to be upgraded badly. Bess is OK...that's it...And Clay...he is just a rookie that made a few good plays, but shouldn't even be in the conversation....Yes...they are that much better...and it isn't just Brady.
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I fully agree and if you compare the stats it would appear Gronkowski is nearly 3x ahead of Fasano in everything. Seems fair to me. Atleast 3x the player Fasano is and even 3" taller? lol
 
ph0enyx said:
Are Gronk, Aaron Hernandez, and Wes Welker significantly better than Charles Clay, Tony Fasano, and Davone Bess or does the difference come from play calling, having a good O-line, and Tom Brady?
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Don't forget the other benefit, Gronk's porn stars.:up:
 
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Are Gronk, Aaron Hernandez, and Wes Welker significantly better than Charles Clay, Tony Fasano, and Davone Bess ,
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Welker...122 receptions...1569 yards...9tds
Clay......16 receptions......233 yards....3tds
Not even in the same "league"

Gronkowski...90 receptions....1327 yards...17tds
Fasano.........32 receptions......451 yards....5tds
would you believe 3 times better

Hernandez...79 receptions ...910 yards...7 tds
Bess............51 receptions....537 yards...3 tds
still no comparison

291 receptions...3806 yards...33 tds...for the Pats
99 receptions....1221 yards....11 tds for The Dolphins
seriously is there still a question?

The QB and offensive lines of the Pats are still better than us
 
We had Welker here in Miami and he was "pretty good". Put him in New Englands offense with Brady - perennial Pro Bowler
 
ph0enyx said:
Are Gronk, Aaron Hernandez, and Wes Welker significantly better than Charles Clay, Tony Fasano, and Davone Bess or does the difference come from play calling, having a good O-line, and Tom Brady?
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It's hard to tell how much of the difference is oline, qb, and coaching because every variable on the Pats side is significantly superior to our own.
 
All of it can be put on Brady. He runs that offense with near perfection. He knows where everyone is on the field. He knows when there is a mismatch and he knows when the defense is getting tired. Hate the Patriots but you gotta give Brady props. He has no deep threat and he still gets it done with huge success. He's been doing it his whole career. Looking like an MVP with **** receivers.
 
I agree the pats have better offensive weapons but when you look at their offensive strategy they are basing it off of their two TEs and Miami is not so obviously they are going to have better stats than our players..
 
Gronk could be the best TE in the NFL for the next 10 years and could go down as one of the best ever, Wes Welker will be in the HOF someday and is the best slot WR ever and Heranadez is the fastest H~back the nfl has ever seen.

We have good/good/decent compared to great/great/really good.

The QB, O line, and play calling help their great players out but at the end of the day great players are great players........and they have more than us.
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