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How much to trade up for RGIII?

Well, I'll give you a solid answer on the price.

It would indeed be higher than... giraffe pu$$y, and that's too damn high!!! Unless you're a giraffe that is....and were not.
 
A price higher than Jerry Garcia, I can tell you that much.

I don't know, man ...
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Jerry's ashes weren't cheap.​
 
Haven't posted here in a while...As for RG III: I was at one time enamored by his numbers, but after giving it more thought and watching more of his game, there is no way I'd mortgage anything to move up to draft him. I don't see him being a franchise type QB. Does he have potential to be solid? Sure. But I don't see potential for greatness. And to throw away what it would take to move up to draft him, I'd have to feel like he is going to be great. Just don't see it. Stand pat. Sign Flynn or Manning (if possible), keep Moore, and draft another QB in round 2. We need to improve our o-line, safety play, a burner WR, and a bruising back. This all may not be able to happen in one off season, but throwing away future picks on an unproven QB will prevent us from building this football team to be contenders for years to come.
 
I'd not trade away 2 first round picks for him.....we did that for Ricky some years ago and it set us behind for years.

Ozzy rules!!

it set us back because Ricky quit on us. It was actually a great deal until that happened.
 
Yo for all of you people who talk about how the price to get RG3 would be too steep, I really really don't know what the hell you expect. Good quarterbacks don't grow on trees and if one is available in FA, chances are that there is a serious downside to signing him. This year for example, Manning is old and nobody knows if he can still play, and Matt Flynn has started 2 ****ing NFL games.
Unless you have a VERY high draft pick (top 3-5) you are going to have to give up a king's ransom if you want to draft a top tier draft prospect, just like the Giants did with Eli, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES. If we give up 2 first and 2 seconds for RG3, obviously there is a huge risk just like with any player out of the draft. But if he ends up being a beast like I think he can be nobody is going to miss those picks, especially if we raid the FA cabinet for guys like Grubbs and Mario Williams.
 
I've never liked trading up and mortgaging future draft picks. The player you're trading up for better be a stud if you invest so much in him. I've always preferred BPA, or if the value isn't there, trading down for more value. The Patriots do it well almost every damn year. As long as you hit on the majority of your extra picks, it is a strategy that is hard to beat.

I'm willing to bet this new regime will covet all of their picks and hope to build a team more in line with their philosophies. It's hard to put a stamp on a team with just one player, even if it is a possible franchise qb. The ideal situation for Miami would be to acquire your possible franchise qb through free agency (likely Flynn or Manning) and use your draft picks to shore up whatever the front office then presumes to be our greatest needs or BPA.

If Miami misses on Flynn and Manning, or doesn't want them, then the scenario of moving up for RGIII becomes more plausible, but no less expensive. I would still say Miami should hope RGIII falls a few spots and then attempts a trade up, or waits until next year for their franchise qb while addressing other key positions while rolling with Matt Moore or whomever then is affordable at qb. I'm sure Miami's new staff is already under great pressure to come out strong, but a losing season with Moore or someone else at qb next year would be tolerable as long as Miami hits on other players in this year's draft.

If I had to guess right now, I'd say we go after Manning, then failing that, go after Flynn. I bet we take BPA at 8 or 9 (whoever wins the coin toss).
 
I've never liked trading up and mortgaging future draft picks. The player you're trading up for better be a stud if you invest so much in him. I've always preferred BPA, or if the value isn't there, trading down for more value. The Patriots do it well almost every damn year. As long as you hit on the majority of your extra picks, it is a strategy that is hard to beat.

I'm willing to bet this new regime will covet all of their picks and hope to build a team more in line with their philosophies. It's hard to put a stamp on a team with just one player, even if it is a possible franchise qb. The ideal situation for Miami would be to acquire your possible franchise qb through free agency (likely Flynn or Manning) and use your draft picks to shore up whatever the front office then presumes to be our greatest needs or BPA.

If Miami misses on Flynn and Manning, or doesn't want them, then the scenario of moving up for RGIII becomes more plausible, but no less expensive. I would still say Miami should hope RGIII falls a few spots and then attempts a trade up, or waits until next year for their franchise qb while addressing other key positions while rolling with Matt Moore or whomever then is affordable at qb. I'm sure Miami's new staff is already under great pressure to come out strong, but a losing season with Moore or someone else at qb next year would be tolerable as long as Miami hits on other players in this year's draft.

If I had to guess right now, I'd say we go after Manning, then failing that, go after Flynn. I bet we take BPA at 8 or 9 (whoever wins the coin toss).

Honestly "rolling with Matt Moore" and going BPA at 8 or 9 is just begging for another brutally mediocre season. I got news for you, the teams who do trade down all the time (and do it with great success) have been teams like the Pats and Colts who could afford to do so because they already had their franchise QB. We don't have the same luxury. It's time for us to make a splash. If we know that Manning can play then I'm all about signing him, but I'd rather make a move for RG3. We pick up Grubbs, Mario Williams and a cheap OLB in FA, then trade up for RG3, we got a good shot at winning now. IMO we have GOOD ENOUGH playmakers on offense with Marshall, Bush and Bess if utilized properly, and all that we really need is a QB, a tweaked OL and another pass rusher to be a solid competitor. Obviously we could use a seam tight end and a playmaking safety as well, but u can't have everything.
 
If you just look at the trade-up value chart which was used by Jimmy Johnson, a 3rd overall pick is worth around 2400 points.....to move up from the 8th/9th spot to first we basically would have to give Minnesota our 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th round picks this year. If we can't get Flynn or Manning, I would be willing to give up these picks for RG3...we also could possibly defer one of these picks that we give to Minny to the 2013 draft.

The Vikings trading down with the Dolphins could realistically net them the Dolphins' first-round pick.....either eighth overall (1,400) or ninth overall (1,350) ....as well as picks in the second (about 500), third (about 230), fifth (about 38) and sixth (about 24) rounds. The Dolphins also could opt to trade a higher pick next season rather than give up four picks in the second through sixth rounds.
 
I've never liked trading up and mortgaging future draft picks. The player you're trading up for better be a stud if you invest so much in him. I've always preferred BPA, or if the value isn't there, trading down for more value. The Patriots do it well almost every damn year. As long as you hit on the majority of your extra picks, it is a strategy that is hard to beat.

Its easy to get the BPA when you have Brady. We may need to trade up to get our Brady. I would not want to do it for any other position other than QB.
 
I'd not trade away 2 first round picks for him.....we did that for Ricky some years ago and it set us behind for years.

Ozzy rules!!

That and the yatil greens, jamar fletchers, Ted ginns.......

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Like I said, if we get 2 big impact free agents FOR EXAMPLE Desean Jackson and Mario Williams, I would do absolutely whatever it took to get RG3. I know it's far fetched but it's about ****ing time that we make some noise!
 
Its easy to get the BPA when you have Brady. We may need to trade up to get our Brady. I would not want to do it for any other position other than QB.


True true Irony in this post....soooo much irony!


Remind me, how many firsts did the Patriots give up to get Brady again?

Are you saying RGIII is going to be as good as Brady?
 
I had a dream last night that we traded up for RG3. It seemed pretty real.
 
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