How Tannehill Fits Into Gase's Offense

[Rodman89]

I apologize if this has been posted already. I looked around and didn't happen to see any threads on this. I was lurking ThePhins forums and stumbled upon this in one of their threads and thought it was a good read. The more and more I read about Gase, the more I'm liking this hire. But at the end of the day... only time will tell. And hopefully "time" has something GREAT to tell us at the end of the next season. Fingers crossed...

http://thedeependmiami.com/2016/01/...an-tannehill-fits-into-the-adam-gase-offense/

 

[uk_dolfan]

Probably at qb, though he might be an upgrade at either guard spot

Gase does not have a set O, he will build a new playbook around Tannehill, Landry and Parker

 

[FSU Truth]

Lurking on ThePhins is like wading through a combination of dumpster juice, dog ****, and an Omar Kelly article...

With that said, that was a nice read...Gase has a QB who is extremely intelligent and is a dedicated worker and I hope that the combination can move this forward. Seeing the stuff we did under Lazor was just bad, and predictable (Hoops has discussed this on many occasions). What I think Lazor's biggest issue is that he took someone else offense and try to apply it where Gase will be using his own offense, doesn't seem like a big deal, but it is one thing read someone else speech, but you understand more when you write that speech yourself.

 

[The Goat]

Probably at qb, thought he might be an upgrade at either guard spot

Gase does not have a set O, he will build a new playbook around Tannehill, Landry and Parker

I think this is partially accurate, as the offensive scheme will contain elements that Gase has been able to use successfully in the past, but the elements will be weighted to the offense's strengths.

 

[xXwarXx]

THanks for posting this, I've never read this writers work.

Only got a chance to briefly look at it, will read it more in detail after I hit the gym.

After reading about 5-6 paragraphs I like what I've read so far though.

Especially the part where he mentions tannehill constantly throwing into tight windows. I've always wondered if this was a scheme thing or if it was the way Defenses were playng him now that they have a stronger scouting report on him. Probably a bit of both I suppose.

It seems like 70% of his passes are into tight windows.

 

[The Goat]

Lurking on ThePhins is like wading through a combination of dumpster juice, dog ****, and an Omar Kelly article...

With that said, that was a nice read...Gase has a QB who is extremely intelligent and is a dedicated worker and I hope that the combination can move this forward. Seeing the stuff we did under Lazor was just bad, and predictable (Hoops has discussed this on many occasions). What I think Lazor's biggest issue is that he took someone else offense and try to apply it where Gase will be using his own offense, doesn't seem like a big deal, but it is one thing read someone else speech, but you understand more when you write that speech yourself.

Easy now...there are some perfectly nice people on ThePhins.

 

[Rodman89]

Lurking on ThePhins is like wading through a combination of dumpster juice, dog ****, and an Omar Kelly article...

With that said, that was a nice read...Gase has a QB who is extremely intelligent and is a dedicated worker and I hope that the combination can move this forward. Seeing the stuff we did under Lazor was just bad, and predictable (Hoops has discussed this on many occasions). What I think Lazor's biggest issue is that he took someone else offense and try to apply it where Gase will be using his own offense, doesn't seem like a big deal, but it is one thing read someone else speech, but you understand more when you write that speech yourself.

It's not best forum website but I lurk as many Fins forums as I can. I'm unfortunately addicted to the Miami Dolphins... an addiction that really has yet to pay off.

Another thing... I also read somewhere Vance Joseph was a top candidate to be DC for the Broncos before Wade... I think that's huge. The combination of Gase, Joseph, and whoever else comes on could prove to be something special. A man can dream...

 

[The Goat]

THanks for posting this, I've never read this writers work.

Only got a chance to briefly look at it, will read it more in detail after I hit the gym.

After reading about 5-6 paragraphs I like what I've read so far though.

Especially the part where he mentions tannehill constantly throwing into tight windows. I've always wondered if this was a scheme thing or if it was the way Defenses were playng him now that they have a stronger scouting report on him. Probably a bit of both I suppose.

It seems like 70% of his passes are into tight windows.

This. It drove me crazy watching this offense. Tannehill clearly has flaws, but there has been NOTHING about his first four years that was easy.

 

[BlueFin]

Probably at qb, though he might be an upgrade at either guard spot

Gase does not have a set O, he will build a new playbook around Tannehill, Landry and Parker

Which is Don Shula like....I love that aspect of this kid...and his love of gameplanning.

 

[FSU Truth]

Easy now...there are some perfectly nice people on ThePhins.

I may have went to far with the Omar Kelly article...my apologies

 

[The Goat]

I may have went to far with the Omar Kelly article...my apologies

Ha!

 

[Phinatic8u]

THanks for posting this, I've never read this writers work.

Only got a chance to briefly look at it, will read it more in detail after I hit the gym.

After reading about 5-6 paragraphs I like what I've read so far though.

Especially the part where he mentions tannehill constantly throwing into tight windows. I've always wondered if this was a scheme thing or if it was the way Defenses were playng him now that they have a stronger scouting report on him. Probably a bit of both I suppose.

It seems like 70% of his passes are into tight windows.

It's scheme driven. Lazor and Sherman struggled at scheming wrs open. That's why Miami never has broken plays that lead to huge points. It almost felt like the WRs were running into coverages instead of away from them most of the time.

Last time Miami had a broken play for a TD was Arizona in 2012. Hardline got left wide open and had a 80 yard TD.

 

[The Goat]

The more I read this article, the more I think it sums up my frustration about the past few years with the Dolphins and particularly Tannehill.

There are those who support him, those who dislike him, those who attack him because they feel he's the biggest problem with the team, and those who defend him just as ferociously because they think he's being unjustly attacked.

I think the problem is that both sides of the argument still don't know for sure, which is just ridiculous after four years.

This is...well...this is spot on:

"Since 2012, the Miami Dolphins’ receivers have utilized one of the most primitive route groups in the NFL. We have all witnessed receivers running the same patterns in the same situations week in and week out.

If you do not know, the route concepts on the field can make or break a play. Receivers do not get open simply because they run the right route, or make a defender misjudge the direction in which they are moving. They get open because other routes on the field draw coverage away from the quarterback’s intended target.

The Dolphins have been one of the worst teams at this consistently; throwing windows are small, and receivers are consistently stacked to one side with little or no thought put into how the routes will affect one another."

and

"The Miami Dolphins have not employed these concepts since Ryan Tannehill arrived. Dolphins’ fans have been quick to criticize Tannehill’s tendency to throw the ball short of the marker on 3rd down, but he often has no choice because of the incredibly uninspired route groupings. Typically, there is only one option for Tannehill in those situations."

 

[Phinatic8u]

The more I read this article, the more I think it sums up my frustration about the past few years with the Dolphins and particularly Tannehill.

There are those who support him, those who dislike him, those who attack him because they feel he's the biggest problem with the team, and those who defend him just as ferociously because they think he's being unjustly attacked.

I think the problem is that both sides of the argument still don't know for sure, which is just ridiculous after four years.

This is...well...this is spot on:

"Since 2012, the Miami Dolphins’ receivers have utilized one of the most primitive route groups in the NFL. We have all witnessed receivers running the same patterns in the same situations week in and week out.

If you do not know, the route concepts on the field can make or break a play. Receivers do not get open simply because they run the right route, or make a defender misjudge the direction in which they are moving. They get open because other routes on the field draw coverage away from the quarterback’s intended target.

The Dolphins have been one of the worst teams at this consistently; throwing windows are small, and receivers are consistently stacked to one side with little or no thought put into how the routes will affect one another."

and

"The Miami Dolphins have not employed these concepts since Ryan Tannehill arrived. Dolphins’ fans have been quick to criticize Tannehill’s tendency to throw the ball short of the marker on 3rd down, but he often has no choice because of the incredibly uninspired route groupings. Typically, there is only one option for Tannehill in those situations."

That writer hit the nail on the head.

Great reading. It's also something Wannyheimer said a year ago and I got looking into it. The writer is also correct

 

[hoops]

this is completely false and had he studied tannehill under shermans o he would know it

"He will be asked to do something he never has before, and that is to spot the blitz and adjust the play accordingly.There is no evidence that Ryan Tannehill cannot do this. He simply has never been tasked with it"