sicilians17
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But Hayden Fox cited to an "expert". Ergo, he must be right.Which they based on, approximately nothing.
But Hayden Fox cited to an "expert". Ergo, he must be right.
You missed the sarcasm in my tone. I do not feel in any way whatsoever that Joe Philbin came up with the idea to trade Vontae Davis. I think that is pure fiction. I think at some point (probably when the Colts upped their offer into the serious range of a 3rd rounder), Jeff Ireland and Joe Philbin had a chat. And during that chat, I think Jeff wanted to gauge Joe's opinion on whether it would be OK. And I think Joe said whatever you think is best.
Which they based on, approximately nothing.
Cmon people.
It went like this:
Ireland to Philbin: Geez, Indy just caled asking a 6th for Vontae. I told them na. (Philbin smirks, continues coaching)
5 hours later:
JI to JP: Well, Indy just called again and now they are offering a 5th. I told them no (JP stares, continues coaching)
Day later:
JI to JP: Indy called again and now they are offering a 3rd rounder. I said well, your getting in the ballpark, let me check with JP.
JP:You do whats best Jeff, I coach and I trust you with these things.
5 hours later day 2: JI to JP: They just offered us a 2nd and cond. 6th
JP: Lets do it.
And there is your JP involvement.
If anyone thinks JI made a decision without JP's blessing is kidding themselves. Then again, its Ireland driving the train. management wise that is.
You missed the sarcasm in my tone. I do not feel in any way whatsoever that Joe Philbin came up with the idea to trade Vontae Davis. I think that is pure fiction. I think at some point (probably when the Colts upped their offer into the serious range of a 3rd rounder), Jeff Ireland and Joe Philbin had a chat. And during that chat, I think Jeff wanted to gauge Joe's opinion on whether it would be OK. And I think Joe said whatever you think is best.
Look we can think and say anything we wants but none of us know. We can pass the blame of this or that. Ireland pulled the trigger and Philbin publicly agreed that he was aware and agreed to the trade that is all we know. Ireland is reponsible for it because he is the general manager and Philbin is also reponsible because he pubilicly admitted he agreed and supported the trade.
So moving on from the blame game for a minute the real question is do these guys really understand that they are both on a very short leash together and if the Dolphins do not appear to be improving from last year team then in all probalbility both may be gone together next year. This is the Dolphins we are talking about NOT Detroit where that is tolerated.