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We all know that HH is a great OLine coach. Having said that, with Satan as the HC, it seemed that our OLine was less than steller. I think that Nicky boy couldn't or wouldn't leave well enough alone and we will see a totally different OLIne this year. What do you guys think?
 
Actually HH's first year our line finished the year allowing R@R to both average around 4.5 yards a carry while giving up the 4 fewest sacks in the league. Saban dismantled them last year. The answer is yes. People don't remember the real reason for our 7 game season ending streak and that was what HH accomplised with the o-line. Now with stability and 3 players in Carey, Hadnot and Shelton that started all 16 games last year I think people underestimate our line.
 
Hudson made some adjustments that helped the line big time. Who knows how much Saban had to do with it, but Cameron had some great olines in San Diego without big name stars so he knows what he wants and how to work with the Oline coach, let's see him and Houck together (again right?)
 
I think that Nick Saban was our entire problem last year. I think in todays NFL, the head coach is the key. The talent pool out there is very equal overall, the difference between winning and losing is who wants to win more. The coach is the one that fires these guys up. Saban did not have his players respect and they were not motivated by him. Thats why our team stunk last year. We will find out if Cam can get these guys to believe in him, if he does we will be in the hunt in december and later. I expect to see improved play from everyone this year.
 
I think it takes time in the development of the O-Line. Remember, in Houck's second year there was a different OC calling the plays (not a very good one either).
Even though it was widely reported that we kept the same play book after Linehan left, there were still different tendencies and tweaked terminologies to overcome.

Also, Mularkey's offense was very predictable most of the time (even the trick plays), which played into the fact that the other team's defense was able to figure out quickly, the plays being called which made it hard for the O-line to block for that called play.

I believe that this season will work out better for them if not only for the reason that we should have a less predictable offense.
 
G-Force said:
Actually HH's first year our line finished the year allowing R@R to both average around 4.5 yards a carry while giving up the 4 fewest sacks in the league. Saban dismantled them last year. The answer is yes. People don't remember the real reason for our 7 game season ending streak and that was what HH accomplised with the o-line. Now with stability and 3 players in Carey, Hadnot and Shelton that started all 16 games last year I think people underestimate our line.
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We have new starters at every line position, what is this stability you speak of?
 
IMO the success of our team depends on this line. If the line can create some good holes we know brown can dominate thats for sure. But also can our line give good enough pass protection so we can keep green on his feet and under center for 16 games or possibly more. we have the defense and the talent on offense but the line is a concern and hopefully they turn heads.
 
Don't forget about Sclesinger. He is a key blocker as well. That is what he has done for a living for the last 13 or so years and has blocked for the likes of Barry Sanders. He will also help protect the QB and give a reliable pass catcher for dump offs.
 
I think with Cam's offense the line will not have to block nearly as long as they were expected to the last couple of years. Cam will run a lot of slants and the ball more effectively than what was done in the past.

Miami has been to predictable over the years and that makes the OL's job that much harder when there isn't any guessing involved. With quick slant patterns and speed at WR, defenses won't be able to pack the middle and play run because the pass is a joke.

I may opinion Green was the key to success this year. Without him we are hurting at QB. Lemon is an excellent back up but as our starter we'd be in trouble. Beck is the future but will need some time to get the offense down and learn how to read NFL defenses and get used to the speed of the game at the same time. With Green to showing Beck the ropes early lets him get to see why they do what they do and why timing will be critical.

Once the defenses can't key on the run all the time we'll really get to see who good Ronnie can be. I also like Booker's speed on third down and let when defenses are tired from Ronnie and now have to catch Booker in the heat down in Miami. Oh, and with Cory leading the way.

We'll get to see what we've been missing for a long time what it means to have a QB. I think we've had the play makers for a couple of years just nobody to take the wheel. Always had good back ups at our key position on offense. I for one can't wait to see them this season. Afer last year it can't go anywhere but up, can't it?? I think we'll at least be more exciting to watch, especially on SP with Mr. Ginn.
 
it's certainly possible that saban got in houcks' way. HH has an excellent history in the nfl for some dominating lines. I think he can do it here in miami and i'm excited for training camp start
 
Bofin said:
it's certainly possible that saban got in houcks' way. HH has an excellent history in the nfl for some dominating lines. I think he can do it here in miami and i'm excited for training camp start
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Bofin, it seems we think alike. People tend to discount the chemistry and effectiveness that coaches have with each other. Its not only very possible, but fairly probable that Saban obscured HH from doing the most effective job possible, possibly through his controlling ways or personnel decisions. Some of it may be how Saban scouted and targeted o-line talent. But consider this: Cam has a very precise offensive design and requires certain body types and athleticism. Not all o-linemen have to be behemoths. If Saban or Mularkey didn't have the insight to bring in or develop body types which complement the offensive scheme, then they are pissing in the wind. HH could cast spells and it wouldn't do any good.

Not helping things early last year was that Daunte likes to hold the ball until he sees a receiver come open. That accounted for nearly all the sacks, despite the fact that he was less mobile than he should be. No O-line can keep you off the ground if you don't help yourself as the QB.

Contrast that with Cam's offense which depends on speed and precision, and getting rid of the ball quickly - TG knows how to see the signals of whether a receiver will become open and anticipate when and where that should be.
 
Ga. FinFan said:
We all know that HH is a great OLine coach. Having said that, with Satan as the HC, it seemed that our OLine was less than steller. I think that Nicky boy couldn't or wouldn't leave well enough alone and we will see a totally different OLIne this year. What do you guys think?
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I hope your right but im afraid were sadly lacking in the talent dept.:unsure:
 
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