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Like most starts, it promised an end.

"The talk of dysfunction within this organization is over," Chris Grier said upon being introduced Monday as the new Dolphins general manager.
Well, that's a relief. This franchise hasn't made the playoffs in seven years or won a playoff game in 15 years. Why didn't anyone banish dysfunction at the start of their era before this?
It was 11 years ago, in another new beginning, that Nick Saban stood in the same room at Dolphins headquarters and said, "I didn't come here to lose." It was nine years ago that Cam Cameron promised, "It's time to start winning."
It was eight years ago that Bill Parcells, who is treated like a patron saint around this current Dolphins management despite screwing up this franchise as much as anyone, was smart enough to simply say, "We're going to give it our best shot."
These are the ghosts around the Dolphins now, and no one understands it more than Grier. He was in the building 16 years before earning Monday's promotion. He saw the problems. He knows the heartache.
But if Dolphins fans have learned anything in this walk through the wilderness — beyond a greater appreciation for Don Shula — it's that opening-day statements and loud proclamations have as much weight as the air they're blown on.
Monday wasn't about words or hope, anyhow. It was about football czar Mike Tannenbaum starting to put his people in place. The coach and his staff will come next. Player decisions will follow.
So after another disheartening season where everyone from the coach to both coordinators to the general manager were fired, what has been clear inside the organization for a year is now obvious outside it: This is Tannebaum's show.
And here's the question: Can someone finally get it right for the Dolphins?
Oh, everyone has other questions, most of them ones dripped in Dolphins angst more than knowledge. Take the coaching hire. The Dolphins have hired three consecutive first-time head coaches in Cameron, Tony Sparano and Joe Philbin.
Each has failed. Cameron and Philbin were train wrecks. So as one media question, a common one being asked across South Florida, came Monday to Tannenbaum: "Isn't time to get a guy with proven NFL head-coaching experience?"
"We've done a lot of research on what makes a successful NFL head coach and tried to reverse-engineer the last 20 years literally of every hire, from their degree to really almost sort of every variable," Tannenbaum said. "And I can tell you that there's a lot of different permutations, a lot of different answers."
Here's one answer that will shut up everyone: Eight of the 12 coaches in the playoffs this year are first-time head coaches with their current team. And a ninth, Todd Bowles of the Jets, had as big a turnaround as anyone before narrowly missing the postseason.
So the point for Tannenbaum isn't whether he gets a coach with experience. The demand is to get the right guy in a way the Dolphins haven't got one right in a decade.
That starts with Tannenbaum. He thinks he got the right guy to run the personnel side in Grier. There was no national search for a general manager in the way there is for a coach. None was needed, Tannenbaum said.
"He was going to be hired [by another team] in the next 10 days," Tannenbaum said.
Grier will report to Tannenbaum. So will the coach. This is part of the learning process of Dolphins owner Steve Ross. Get a football man to run the football side. Hand him the keys. We'll see where Tannenbaum takes it from here.:hsmash:
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-hyde-dolphins-column-0105-20160104-column.html
 
What can anybody offer as to insight on Grier, other than what I have read on this site and heard on the Radio? I agree with what Hayden said on one of his post. So many of us hate that Tannenbaum because hecame from the Jets and expect him to fail here. The Big O is cutting his veins because of Tannenbaum. He is spewing so much vitriol that has everybody thinking the owner is an idiot. I have to respect Mr. Ross for what he has done in business. I have to expect he will get it right. I hope it is soon rather later. The buck now stops with Tannenbaum.Who is to say that he can't do a better job in Miami than in New York. I hope he becomes executive of the year in the next 2-3 years.
 
I stopped reading after the "talk of dysfunction is over". This is the Miami Dolphins. They ate know and live by their dysfunction. I'm hoping things will turn around, again, but I'm not confident things will. I'm expecting another losing season next year regardless of who we hire. This is how they have trained me to think so if we win, it's just an added bonus
 
pacogar said:
What can anybody offer as to insight on Grier, other than what I have read on this site and heard on the Radio?
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All I can deduce is he has been part of the franchise since 2000, and that makes me unimpressed completely. We have sucked since then (except for a few Years on defense) so to give all these accolades for someone who supported our crappy drafting decisions gives me no confidence at all.. That and having a monkey eared moron running the franchise.
 
"Grier will report to Tannenbaum. So will the coach. This is part of the learning process of Dolphins owner Steve Ross. Get a football man to run the football side. Hand him the keys. We'll see where Tannenbaum takes it from here."

I'm stoked that the coach and GM doesn't have to answer to Ross. No more mysterious advisory council and Ross bumbling decisions.
I like that there's a guy who CAN be fired, overseeing the team. There's some accountability there -- better than the owner of the team having that power, since nobody can fire him for screwing things up.
 
Here's one answer that will shut up everyone: Eight of the 12 coaches in the playoffs this year are first-time head coaches with their current team. And a ninth, Todd Bowles of the Jets, had as big a turnaround as anyone before narrowly missing the postseason.
So the point for Tannenbaum isn't whether he gets a coach with experience. The demand is to get the right guy in a way the Dolphins haven't got one right in a decade.
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Yeah? How many teams with first-time coaches have won a Superbowl? I don't think there's been one in the last 15 years at least.

By this article's logic, if you're content to just make the playoffs, then hire a first-time coach. If you want to win a Superbowl, then hire an experienced coach.
 
The playoffs would be awesome, but plenty of 1st year coaches don't make the playoffs. Just look at our history.
 
The Dolphins lack of success with first year coaches shouldn't limit the search to a veteran/proven coach. That said, there are a couple of coaches out there who have had a ton of success in the NFL and have won super bowls. I'm specifically talking about Tom Coughlin and Mike Shanahan. Sean Payton may also be available. Those guys know what it takes to win.

The front office (Tannebaum) is right about one important fact. It's not just about the head coach, but the quality of assistants they can bring into the program. That's part of the challenge with first year coaches. Coughlin or Shanahan could build the coaching staff with quality people.

In the best case scenario, one of those assistants could then take over keeping the winning continuity going. That's what the best organizations are able to do.
 
Is Tannenbaum in charge?

Then, nope. I'll see you folks back at the same time, same place discussing the same things in 2-4 years. I'm optimistic and hopeful it only takes Ross 2 years to discover the pants-****ter that Mikey is.
 
Ren said:
Yeah? How many teams with first-time coaches have won a Superbowl? I don't think there's been one in the last 15 years at least.

By this article's logic, if you're content to just make the playoffs, then hire a first-time coach. If you want to win a Superbowl, then hire an experienced coach.
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Hasn't there been like 4 first time coaches that have won a Super Bowl just in the last 10 years?
 
Posted the list in another thread, but the majority of coaches who have won the Super Bowl did so in their first NFL/College head coaching gig
 
Most of the coaches I think of right off hand won after being on their 2nd team, or 3rd team

Don Shula

Bill Billichek

Mike Shanahan

Tom Caughlin
 
whizafriz said:
"Grier will report to Tannenbaum. So will the coach. This is part of the learning process of Dolphins owner Steve Ross. Get a football man to run the football side. Hand him the keys. We'll see where Tannenbaum takes it from here."

I'm stoked that the coach and GM doesn't have to answer to Ross. No more mysterious advisory council and Ross bumbling decisions.
I like that there's a guy who CAN be fired, overseeing the team. There's some accountability there -- better than the owner of the team having that power, since nobody can fire him for screwing things up.
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This is true as long as Ross has the balls to fire Tbaum in a timely manner if he fails. I find it more likely Tbaum places the blame on someone else making them the scapegoat and somehow buys himself 5 yrs + as the man in charge even if things are bad.
 
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