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At the end of another Sunday that couldn't end soon enough, Steve Ross walked out of the loser's locker room, just as he has at Gillette Stadium all six times as Dolphins owner.

He buttoned his jacket against the cold, turned left down a hallway with his entourage, and shook his head when asked for a moment, saying only with a face set in stone, "No."

This isn't the time for talk anyhow. It's nearly the time for action. Ross is "on the verge" of ending the Joe Philbin era at season's end, a team source said, for all the obvious reasons that just played across another Dolphins Sunday.
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Good, well-coached teams like Baltimore and New England get better as the season lengthens. By year three of this regime, the Dolphins are still finding ways to lose with shoddy tackling, dropped passes, penalties that kill drives and not competing at all in second halves.

"Progress," was Ross's stated demand for this season. And, to be fair, There are pockets of progress. Quarterback Ryan Tannehill, most importantly, has improved to being a good-not-great quarterback. That's led to a better offense under coordinator Bill Lazor.

Would Jim Harbaugh come to the Dolphins on Ross's second courtship? Would a defensive-minded coach (Rex Ryan?) be hired to allow Lazor to keep this improving offense to develop? Does a wild card like Auburn's Guz Malzahn have a pro itch?

These are the type of questions Ross must wrestle with in the coming days. There's no spectacular hurry to get in line for a coach. Harbaugh is coaching to the end of the season in San Francisco, too.
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"Embarrassing,'' receiver Mike Wallace said.

"Awful,'' center Mike Pouncey said.

All the old words are new again. That's where we are with another Dolphins season. It's Groundhog Year. Philbin will make the fifth Dolphins regime that Belichick and Tom Brady have helped run out of town.

It was another failed Dolphins leader, Bill Parcells, who said you are what your record says you are. Philbin's Dolphins are 7-7. They were 8-8 last year. They were 7-9 in his first season.

See the pattern? Have any reason for change? There's a window a coach has to effect his change on a team before the players tune out and the fans turn off and the end of this third year with the same results is that point with Philbin.
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The Dolphins do what they often do, too. They'll start all over and hope they get it right this time. Ross stuffed his hands in his coat pockets as he walked out of Gillette as a loser again. That's the image to have. Another cold Dolphins winter is upon us.
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-dave-hyde-dolphins-1215-20141214-column.html
 
IF Ross has his mind made up, there's no point in waiting. Get it over with. Announce something tomorrow.
 
I get the coaching issues but this team needs more talent IMO. I remember when Shula was removed the thought was JJ would come in and 'waive his magic wand'. Did you guys see the end of the first half and that Denver debacle of clock management? Nobody cares when you have enough talent.
 
Make Coyle interim head coach and begin the search now!


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What's the point on firing him now? It would be better to let him finish at 8-8 because we will probably lose one of the last two games. But they should drop the ax right after the season is over.
 
We don't have enough talent overall, and certainly not enough depth, but that doesn't change the fact thhat I believe Joe Philbin is a poor coach.
 
flynryan15 said:
I have ZERO confidence Ross fires Failbin.
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Yep...He doesn't get it. That is why Sparano stuck around. That is why Ireland stuck around so long. That is why he didn't clean house and fire Philbin with Ireland.

I have 0 confidence in Ross.
 
flynryan15 said:
I have ZERO confidence Ross fires Failbin.
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Empty seats and the chance at Harbaugh disagree.


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Dr. Phin said:
Yep...He doesn't get it. That is why Sparano stuck around. That is why Ireland stuck around so long. That is why he didn't clean house and fire Philbin with Ireland.

I have 0 confidence in Ross.
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Ross tried to get rid of Morano. He just sorta went the worst way about it. Lol. He cornered himself into extending Tony.


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Despacio said:
Empty seats and the chance at Harbaugh disagree.


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Ross tried to get rid of Morano. He just sorta went the worst way about it. Lol. He cornered himself into extending Tony.


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Yup. This stadium is going to be absolutely empty.
 
I don't think anyone reasonable is denying that there are issues with this team beyond Philbin and beyond his control.

However, you now have a body of work to look at, and there are a number of very, very troubling things about Philbin's three years that he should control. The biggest of which is his teams not only lose, they lose badly when controlling their destiny to the playoffs -- 0-4 and never had a chance in any of those games.

People want to talk about the injuries and lack of depth, but every team has injuries. And here's something no one seems to have talked about: All the games count. Losing at home (badly) to an undermanned Chiefs team and then to the Bills early in the season counts as much as losing to the Ravens and Patriots at the end. We were healthy then. So why didn't we win those? If we win at least two out of the games we lost to KC, Buffalo, Green Bay and Detroit, we are in the playoffs. There was no excuse; we were in a position to win the first two of those games because we were the better team and we led the last two of those games until the last minute. Just split them, and we are in the playoffs. Geez, beat Tampa last year and I think we would have been in the playoffs.

This is the EXACT same thing that happened at the end of last year. We put ourselves in a position to control our own destiny, and then we didn't just lose the last two games, we failed to be competitive those last two games. Heck, last week we led 10-0 at home against a very beatable Ravens team, we still led at the half and lost by two freaking touchdowns.

What are the marks of Philbin-coached teams? Coming out flat in big situations, failing to finish, not taking care of business, rolling up in a little ball and quitting when things get tough. Bad penalties ... that's been consistent in his three years, too. These aren't the marks of even an average-coached team. Sometimes I think we actually overachieved under Philbin, because there were worse teams than the Dolphins who didn't make as many mistakes; they just were so devoid of talent that it made no difference.
 
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Well hopefully Ross has been embarrassed enough by the disgraceful way that Philbin's teams have ended the season the last 3 years. 2012 Week 17 28-0 joke at home vs the Patriots. 2013 week 16 19-0 thrashing by a crap Bills team followed by a 20-3 beating at home against Geno and the Jets . This year with the playoffs on the line a Monday night game where they score a whooping 16 points and barely escape with a win vs a 2 win Jet team. Then being curb stomped at home in a must win game vs the Ravens followed by an ass raping by Brady and the Patriots handing them the division for the 6th straight season without even putting up a fight. I know if I was Ross I would be looking for a replacement.
 
Philbin traits, flat starts, losses in must win games, poor finishes to the season, underprepared, lack of intensity, .500 records.

All confirmed traits of Philbin coached teams over three seasons. Time to move on in an offseason where there are proven winning coaches available.


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joenhre said:
Well hopefully Ross has been embarrassed enough by the disgraceful way that Philbin's teams have ended the season the last 3 years. 2012 Week 17 28-0 joke at home vs the Patriots. 2013 week 16 19-0 thrashing by a crap Bills team followed by a 20-3 beating at home against Geno and the Jets . This year with the playoffs on the line a Monday night game where they score a whooping 16 points and barely escape with a win vs a 2 win Jet team. Then being curb stomped at home in a must win game vs the Ravens followed by an ass raping by Brady and the Patriots handing them the division for the 6th straight season without even putting up a fight. I know if I was Ross I would be looking for a replacement.
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I was at the Ravens game. The upper decks weren't even filled out. Biggest game in four years and the stadium couldn't even get filled out. Will be worse next year if Joe stays. Ross is a businessman, he knows he has to do something.


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I never liked the Philbin hire, but...

it is IDI0TIC to say that he should be fired now based on losing to the pats at their place in December.

We beat the Pats here, the Bills just beat the PACKERS.

Harbaugh does not look like the answer to me. At some point you have to BUILD a team and allow for STABILTY.

Sparano coached the Raiders to BEAT Harbaugh's 49ers just a week ago.

I think if the dolphins win their last two you have to do some serious analysis before firing the head coach.

A new coach means at least 3 years before anything gets better in ANY F-ing WAY. If they lose to the jests then he should be fired Immediately
 
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