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i want to give cam the benefit of the doubt as how he will do as a head coach . my biggest concern is our qb situation and oline. is cam planning on not drafting a qb this year ? if not i sure hope he drafts us a stud wr or even two considering how our luck is going. i have been looking at every posible angle and nothing really wows me . i wished we had the 3rd pick or 2nd pick . now my thoughts as of now is maybe he wants to address the wr, and oline first and the dline as well.
i am not against drafting te olsen in rd 1 provided we get kolb in the 3rd round. if we went te, lt, qb , center ,dt and wr i would not be shocked.
now what i want to know is this, would it be a bad idea to draft a mid round qb in 3 years if we get kolb this year and draft a qb every three years ?:cooldude:
 
Cam said u have to start from the inside out...OL is first...i think he will use the draft to get young OL. what we need to do is sign both Carr and Green, and see if we can get a nice pick for Culpepper.
 
was Cam Cam part of the Chargers organization when they werent very good? like pre-Tomlinson era?
 
i want to give cam the benefit of the doubt as how he will do as a head coach . my biggest concern is our qb situation and oline. is cam planning on not drafting a qb this year ? if not i sure hope he drafts us a stud wr or even two considering how our luck is going. i have been looking at every posible angle and nothing really wows me . i wished we had the 3rd pick or 2nd pick . now my thoughts as of now is maybe he wants to address the wr, and oline first and the dline as well.
i am not against drafting te olsen in rd 1 provided we get kolb in the 3rd round. if we went te, lt, qb , center ,dt and wr i would not be shocked.
now what i want to know is this, would it be a bad idea to draft a mid round qb in 3 years if we get kolb this year and draft a qb every three years ?:cooldude:
we could trade up for the #1 spot with oakland and took johnson. we use our #9, #40, 3 rd nex year, booker, culpepper and that would give us about the same "draft points" as the #1 spot. the oakland raiders would have to consider this because they would be getting many picks and quality players. they need picks to fix their team and culpepper would fit in pretty well with moss, i think.
 
we could trade up for the #1 spot with oakland and took johnson. we use our #9, #40, 3 rd nex year, booker, culpepper and that would give us about the same "draft points" as the #1 spot. the oakland raiders would have to consider this because they would be getting many picks and quality players. they need picks to fix their team and culpepper would fit in pretty well with moss, i think.

wow thats a BIIIG move. I vote against sending Booker away. He's extremely underrated.
 
I thought Mueller would be handling the draft with Cam strictly in an advisory role? If Mueller indeed handles the draft I feel assured he will select a QB somewhere along the way. I also believe OL is a major priority with maybe a couple of OL somewhere in this draft. But who really knows? This is a whole new ball game with better organization at the top.
 
I thought Mueller would be handling the draft with Cam strictly in an advisory role? If Mueller indeed handles the draft I feel assured he will select a QB somewhere along the way. I also believe OL is a major priority with maybe a couple of OL somewhere in this draft. But who really knows? This is a whole new ball game with better organization at the top.

Well, I've read that Mueller likes to draft a QB every year, so yeah, no doubt. I would think, too, we would do it on day one this year.
In response to the thread starter; I'm pretty sure that both Mueller and Cameron have both stated that their belief is the QB position and O-line
are extremely important to success.........so why worry? Now if you're worried that they may not handle things exactly the way you think they should handle things, then you may want to continue worrying. On the other hand, you could step back a little and think about how much they know compared to how much you know. If you do that it might be easier for you to relax and quit worrying....just a thought.
 
i want to give cam the benefit of the doubt as how he will do as a head coach . my biggest concern is our qb situation and oline. is cam planning on not drafting a qb this year ? if not i sure hope he drafts us a stud wr or even two considering how our luck is going. i have been looking at every posible angle and nothing really wows me . i wished we had the 3rd pick or 2nd pick . now my thoughts as of now is maybe he wants to address the wr, and oline first and the dline as well.
i am not against drafting te olsen in rd 1 provided we get kolb in the 3rd round. if we went te, lt, qb , center ,dt and wr i would not be shocked.
now what i want to know is this, would it be a bad idea to draft a mid round qb in 3 years if we get kolb this year and draft a qb every three years ?:cooldude:



Heres a my optismism for you since you seem to need a lil towards Cam being our coach.




What Im seeing from Cam that I like is he is threating everyones job. He is telling these guys if your underperforming your gone. Were bringing in new faces and talent and come this years preseason if your not up to par and earning your money, you will be looking for a new home. That in my oppion, is what this team has desperatly needed since shula left. We have not had a winning mentality here in ages and I dont want to get too happy yet, but so far it looks like Cam is on track to rebuilding that. If he suceedes, we will be the next dynasty. We will build mediocre talent into overachieving probowlers. Our players are on notice that they better come to camp ready to compete for thier job. He needs to win games early in the season to help him get these guys to buy into his system, I think that was Sabans greatest failure as a nfl coach, his players didnt believe in him and they carried thier lack of confidence in him onto the field. Every game they lost it esculated into a bigger problem for him to overcome. We really really need 4 or 5 wins before we see a loss this season. I think your gonna see a big improvment in our o line without adding a bunch of big name stars to it. He is gonna be the kinda coach that takes no name players and turns them into big name stars.
 
I thought Mueller would be handling the draft with Cam strictly in an advisory role? If Mueller indeed handles the draft I feel assured he will select a QB somewhere along the way. I also believe OL is a major priority with maybe a couple of OL somewhere in this draft. But who really knows? This is a whole new ball game with better organization at the top.

That's what was reported in the Sentinel, but I'm sure he has a lot of input.

Don't worry about the plan until you've seen the draft, they seem to be purposely throwing up a smokescreen so no one can take advantage of us the way the did to WannSpiel. So far to me, I think they are making a lot of good moves. I do wish we could have kept Carter, but the price was way to high, so it makes sense. The only plan I have figured out so far is we are going to get younger, hungrier players, and I like it.

Just be patient!
 
i want to give cam the benefit of the doubt as how he will do as a head coach . my biggest concern is our qb situation and oline. is cam planning on not drafting a qb this year ? if not i sure hope he drafts us a stud wr or even two considering how our luck is going. i have been looking at every posible angle and nothing really wows me . i wished we had the 3rd pick or 2nd pick . now my thoughts as of now is maybe he wants to address the wr, and oline first and the dline as well.
i am not against drafting te olsen in rd 1 provided we get kolb in the 3rd round. if we went te, lt, qb , center ,dt and wr i would not be shocked.
now what i want to know is this, would it be a bad idea to draft a mid round qb in 3 years if we get kolb this year and draft a qb every three years ?:cooldude:

How about waiting until he comes back from vacation and go through the draft and then training camp and pre-season, before putting Cam under the microscope. Geez, some people do not have any patience.
 
There's no need to go o-line first

For those of us who are arguing that o-line should be the first priority, I beg to differ. There's nothing wrong with going into a draft planning on shoring up a position, and they definitely need to take offensive linemen; I don't think that anyone who has actually watched a Dolphins game in the last few years will argue with that.

But it's a matter of coordinating need with what's on the board. We needed an offensive lineman in the 2004 draft and look: we ended up with Vernon Carey. Is anyone really all that happy with him so far? I remember really, really wanting Shawn Andrews out of Arkansas in that draft. I was absolutely stunned when the Eagles moved up for him because I thought we were going to land our man, and I had no real backup plan. Now, I am more than a casual fan; obviously I do my homework to some extent so that I can have an informed opinion of whom the Dolphins should take, but I am afraid that the regime in place didn't think it through more than I did. Our result? A first-round bust.

Now, I will point out that Levi Brown is better than Vernon Carey; Brown actually has some Pro Bowl potential. But with that said, he's a reach at #9 and we're going to have one heck of a time trading down. I think the first thing we should do is accept that we are picking at #9, as annoying as that is, and then evaluate what's really going to be there.

My vote for a while has been for Alan Branch, a DT from Michigan. He's an extremely talented run-stuffer, and would give our d-line that extra youth and infusion of talent that we need to remain a good defense going forward. There are recent concerns raised about his conditioning, as he appeared to be a little bit out of shape at a recent workout, but I think he is sufficiently talented that we can ignore that. If Cam and Mueller decide that they don't like what they see, I suggest going with Amobi Okoye, also a DT, from Louisville. Don't forget that this is also a need position, and I think it's the best value to take at that point in the draft.

We happen to have 2 2nd-round picks, and I think the first of these is the right time to go o-line. If he's on the board, the Dolphins should take Joe Staley from Central Michigan. He's very athletic and has the best feet of any tackle in this class. He's not as polished as a Joe Thomas, but part of that is based on the fact that he came to college playing tight end and added weight.

Drew Stanton from Michigan St. might be the answer to our qb questions and may well be on the board with our 2nd 2nd-round pick. Zach Miller, a te from Arizona State, would also be a good pick.

My point is this: the Dolphins definitely need offensive linemen, but given the fact that the team does have a lot of other needs we should concentrate on getting the best value we can with each of our picks. Ultimately, this is not going to be a playoff team until our TEAM is good enough. It's not about fixating on one position. If the new regime is really in it for the long haul, they'll agree with me.
 
we could trade up for the #1 spot with oakland and took johnson. we use our #9, #40, 3 rd nex year, booker, culpepper and that would give us about the same "draft points" as the #1 spot. the oakland raiders would have to consider this because they would be getting many picks and quality players. they need picks to fix their team and culpepper would fit in pretty well with moss, i think.

There's a big crevasse in you thinking here...we also need multiple holes filled. Giving up 2 day one draft picks and two starting players is not very smart for one player, be that a supposedly all-world WR or QB. Besides, Oakland might be interested in CPep, but I doubt another aging WR, even tho he's a starting caliber guy.

We've been the "trade all your picks away" route and it doesn't work. You must build your team thru the draft and then supplement it with one or two FA's or trades to get the right players in place.
 
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