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i am sick and tired of trying to luck up and find the next tom brady!!!

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i hear that we are interested in mcpherson in new orleans.....i know that watching aj on a daily basis has to be sickening!!!! but please lets just get our team back to the top through the draft and free agency! players like coming to miami and since the "rocket scientist" we had as our coach last year is gone we can judge talent a little better!! we are 2 to three years away and lets just be patient!!!!!:fire:
 
I'm with you man. I do believe Saban will mostly build the team that way. If we can get a QB that might have a shot and not overpay for him, why not take the chance. I think it is to little, to late for this season though.
 
jreg1 said:
i hear that we are interested in mcpherson in new orleans.....i know that watching aj on a daily basis has to be sickening!!!! but please lets just get our team back to the top through the draft and free agency! players like coming to miami and since the "rocket scientist" we had as our coach last year is gone we can judge talent a little better!! we are 2 to three years away and lets just be patient!!!!!:fire:

If we get McPherson, it will be after he's released. That means as a free agent.
 
i am not for giving away draft picks for "quick plug ins" so it better be as a free agent!!!!!!
 
Ever since Dan Marino, Miami has been mired in a funk regarding Quarterbacks. Seems like all we show interest in are other teams second string, backup QBs or cast offs. I am sure there is one or two good backups that could come in and play good football for the Dolphins but its just a crap shoot as the chances the Dolphins take by signing any bacups. In saying all of that I have to say that Miami has been real fortunate to have had two great QBs in Bob Griese and Dan Marino and some super backups in Earl Morrall and Don Strock among others. Lets just hope we eventually luck out and get that next ALL-Pro QB who can bring back the excitement and thrill those others gave us.
 
touborg said:
Maybe we should get a first round QB for once, instead of picking up career backups.


That still doesn't guarantee anything.

Regardless of where the bodies come from, you have to keep looking and using ALL resources...not just first round picks.
 
personally, I like the idea of possibly picking up Adrian MC.

I don't feel like he's worth giving up a draft pick for though. We've already given up a 5th in next years draft for Manny Wright. I do feel he'd be a good waiver pickup though.

Another possibility could be for one of our Rb's. IF, and that's a big IF :), we do trade for Adrian, the bonus is that he's signed to a cheap 3 yr contract. This will give the team and Adrian himself, time to see what the guy can become. We all know about his well publicized measureables and his even more published gambling issues from 2-3 years ago. He IS the type of 3rd string QB you want to try to develope. He won't sniff a regular season game this year and possibly next season...but that's OK....he is a developemental player (which is what I always thought a 3rd QB should be)!


All that said.... unless Adrian is actually released.....I don't think he'll be wearing a Dolphins uniform.
 
I'm sick of hearing that I'm sick of hearing that I'm sick of hearing about our QBs!!!!! :goof:
 
Not only are first round pick QBs not guaranteed to succeed, the odds are strongly against it. Even if you limit it to top 10 first round picks, the success rate is pretty horrible. Over the last 15 years, 20 QBs have been taken in the top 10. Five have been good: Manning, McNair, Bledsoe, NcNabb and Vick. Four could be considered mediocre at best: KCollins, Jeff George, CPalmer and BLeftwich. Two are two early to tell, but did nothing impressive last year: Mannign and Rivers. The other nine were horrific failures: Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, David Klingler, Andre Ware, Trent Dilfer (well, maybe just sub-mediocre), Tim Couch and Joey Harrington (maybe too early to say horrific).


In other words, the "success" rate is about 25%, with a 25% chance of a mediocre Jay Fiedler/AJ Feeley quality QB, and about a 50% chance of a complete abortion. And again, that's looking at top 10 picks. If you go further down, you start to include the Jim Druckenmillers, Dan McGwires, Cade McNowns . . . . hey, wait a minute, didn't all of these guys have a cup of coffee with the Dolphins? As much as we like to grouse about John Avery, Eric Kumerow, Billy Milner, etc., none of those guys can hold a candle to Leaf, ASmith, Shuler, Klinger or Ware as collossal draft busts.
 
Superself said:
That still doesn't guarantee anything.

Regardless of where the bodies come from, you have to keep looking and using ALL resources...not just first round picks.


Any QB can turn out to be a bust, so you are correct that there are no guarantees.
However, the success rate for QBs selected in the 1st round is much higher than that for QBs selected in all other rounds. So, while you should use all resources available...especially if its a virtually free resource, don't be surprised if after all the free agents, trades, and late round draft picks you used attempting to find the "diamond in the rough", the QB that finally solves your problems at that position comes from the first round of the draft.
 
give Brock Berlin a shot, you won't regret it Trust me :wink:
 
Berlin didn't get playing time so what do you want him to do? if you don't play then you don't have a chance to move up, I bet anything that if he played last week he would of been our best QB in that game. Don't judge a book before taking a look
 
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