I bet parcells trades our 3rd round pick #64

[nolefin]

I was just looking over our picks for the draft and found something interesting, we pick 1st on day number 2 of the draft pick #64 and we dont pick agian until #100 and then #195. i bet parcells will get tons of calls on saturday night becasue teams will have all night to think about who is left and you know some player will slide and parcells will rip somebody off for like there 3rd 4th and 6th pick. i just have a felling that that #64 pick will get a ton of intrest and parcells will want to move it due to not having a good number of picks between #100 and #195. just a thought

 

[CANDolphan]

This is a really good point. All depending who slides ( if a guy slides to #65 that Parcells really really likes, he will grab him )

Otherwise I look for Parcells to turn that third rounder into a 3rd and 4th, much like you said.

 

[PerfectTeam]

id look for the 32 to be traded potentially. someone is going to drop to that spot and i bet we are going to be hearing a ton of phone calls for it.

 

[Lazy1]

I can definitely see a trade back at some point in the draft especially to get back into the 5th round where we currently dont have a pick. pick 32 is a strong possibility like some1 said and so is this pick here you mentioned. I love trading back its a beautiful thing.

 

[mia4ever]

NF brings up a good point ....


Every year a player or two or fives slides down in the Draft
for what ever the reason .....

I mean if you have 35 player with a ST round grade then
4 players will fall down into the next round

Here a list of player that maybe available in the 3rd round...

10.Anthony Collins
9.Justin King
8.Curtis Lofton
7.Chilo Rachal
6.Red Bryant
5.John Carlson / TE / Notre Dame
4.Martellus Bennett / TE / Texas A&M
3.Dan Conner / ILB / Penn State
2.Brandon Flowers- CB- Virginia Tech
1.Calais Campbell- DE Miami

 

[PerfectTeam]

connor, bennett, lofton, bryant, and flowers i dont see any way they fall to the 3rd. bennett could be our pick at 32, the 49ers went let lofton out of the 2nd and maybe not out of the 1st. campbell wont because the upside is to high. same thing with king. flowers with the off the field issues could but i doubt it. carlson might. rachal, i think so. collins is 50/50.

 

[umpalu]

NF brings up a good point ....


Every year a player or two or fives slides down in the Draft
for what ever the reason .....

I mean if you have 35 player with a ST round grade then
4 players will fall down into the next round

Here a list of player that maybe available in the 3rd round...

10.Anthony Collins
9.Justin King
8.Curtis Lofton
7.Chilo Rachal
6.Red Bryant
5.John Carlson / TE / Notre Dame
4.Martellus Bennett / TE / Texas A&M
3.Dan Conner / ILB / Penn State
2.Brandon Flowers- CB- Virginia Tech
1.Calais Campbell- DE Miami

no way in hell would I trade this pick if king (only b/c he won't be there in the 4th), lofton, rachal, carlson, conner, flowers, or campbell were available. no matter how many picks we need to develop this team. if the other ones were there (mind you going off your list only) i would think about it. as a side note and me being lazy and wanting to go to bed, does anyone know how many times the first pick of the second day has been traded because that topic is kind of curious.

 

[CANDolphan]

If Calais Campbell is available @ #65 you have to grab him. That is such a tremendous value it'd almost be insane. He could be our starting 3-4 DE opposite Randy Starks eventually

 

[3rdandinches]

If Calais Campbell is available @ #65 you have to grab him. That is such a tremendous value it'd almost be insane. He could be our starting 3-4 DE opposite Randy Starks eventually

I used to be on his bandwagon until he stunk up the combine (he was really weak/fat/slow) and followed that up with a bad proday. He's a guy everyone has high hopes for but has disappointed with his inability to play to his potential.
I'd prefer to save our project picks for the 6th and 7th. Just my view of him.

 

[CANDolphan]

I used to be on his bandwagon until he stunk up the combine (he was really weak/fat/slow) and followed that up with a bad proday. He's a guy everyone has high hopes for but has disappointed with his inability to play to his potential.
I'd prefer to save our project picks for the 6th and 7th. Just my view of him.

You cant really call him weak due to his benchpress.

Julius Peppers only put up 225 about 22 times, and youd be very hard pressed to find someone who would call him weak. When people have huge frames it makes bench press that much harder..

 

[3rdandinches]

You cant really call him weak due to his benchpress.

Julius Peppers only put up 225 about 22 times, and youd be very hard pressed to find someone who would call him weak. When people have huge frames it makes bench press that much harder..

Well I will because 225 - 22x is weak in football terms of the position. J.Peppers is a motor guy with freak like speed for his size, there's no quit in him just like JT and I don't imagine JT benched much either.JT had the motor and speed factor going for him and was a 3rd round pick aswell.

C.Campbell has never had someone mistake him for being a non stop motor type football player, he has no decent speed to speak of, a lack of strength but he has size and that's it. Two years ago he had a decent year which lead to all this speculation of raw talent yet to be tapped. Last year he took a step back and really didn't do anything to warrant being a top DE. He only has this huge frame that could make a dominant DE but nothing else. I just look at it that the biggest day of your life and you come in with more questions than ever, then you get another day to redeem yourself and nothing. I just would rather pass and take someone with a proven background. Atleast K.Phillips who also has slipped because of a bad year has a tonne of other things going for him to warrant a late 1st early 2nd selection.

Again I just don't want to use a 3rd for a guy that doesn't seem to be very motivated. Our 3rd pick will still get us a excellent talent or great trade value.

 

[i got da juice]

i think that that first third rounder has more value than a later third and 2 4ths. 4th rounders dont always impact the team, but the firts pick in the third will almost definitley be able to come in right away and play quickly. i dont like the idea of trading it and would rather keep it to see who falls

 

[PerfectTeam]

i think that that first third rounder has more value than a later third and 2 4ths. 4th rounders dont always impact the team, but the firts pick in the third will almost definitley be able to come in right away and play quickly. i dont like the idea of trading it and would rather keep it to see who falls

I dont see how you can say the first pick in the third round will almost definitely impact the team compared to a 4th rounder. Thats pretty flawed logic. Any pick, at any given time could fail miserably or contribute heavily. Look at the first pick of the third round last year....Quentin Moses. He already is on his third team and has no guarantees that he will even be on this team. A later pick in the third last year? Trent Edwards. He didnt light the world on fire but he wasnt overly bad. Some picks in the 4th round from last year that contributed right away....Tanard Jackson started for the Bucs, Fred Bennett ended up playing alot when Dunta Robinson went down, Leron McClain I believe started at FB for the ravens.

I think I see what your trying to say with first pick in third round though which is that there could be a real quality player there that should of went in round 2 or late round 1 and ended up dropping to the third. If thats what your trying to say, I understand that and Im sort of with you.

 

[miamiron]

i think that that first third rounder has more value than a later third and 2 4ths. 4th rounders dont always impact the team, but the firts pick in the third will almost definitley be able to come in right away and play quickly. i dont like the idea of trading it and would rather keep it to see who falls

With the abilities(or lack of:boohoo:) of this team as a whole, 3rd,4th,6th,7th
rounders all have a very good chance to start and have an impact

 

[Hagan82]

Number 32 (31rst player taken) has first round value at 2nd round money...that is added value on top of the first round talent that slides...a double bonus as trade leverage...I think that pick holds the most value to trade....I would almost bet we can get more (or close to it) for that pick than the number 1. Curious to see how it plays out.