I dont think people realize how hard it will be to get Luck

[Nublar7]

Does head to head outcomes count? If they do, that makes the Denver and Kansas City games vital to lose..

Head to head does not count. It is possible that Miami could lose to KC, finish with the same record as the Chiefs and still pick behind them.

 

[FrankP]

imagine if somehow (although extremely unlikely) us and the colts went 0-16, and we lost a tiebreaker to indy and we didnt get andrew luck?

i can so see that happening with the way this franchise has been the past decade. finishing with the worst possible record, and yet we still dont get the biggest prize in years.

id prob be suicidal.

Or tanking it... finishing 0-16... and Luck decides to stay in college to not be part of this mess?

 

[Phinatic8u]

Matt Barkley is a great consolation prize.

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

Or tanking it... finishing 0-16... and Luck decides to stay in college to not be part of this mess?

ya, but i dont think luck has anything to gain by staying in college.

think about it. when you are the 1st overall pick, you are not going to be picked by a team coming off a superbowl the previous year, or a team that is a constant playoff contendeer( unless that pick is somehow aquired through trade).

going 1, you are going to a team that is most likely coming off a 1-15, 2-14 year and is in a deep hole.

here, going to miami, he would come to a team where he can play in a good climate, a team that is prob more talented than most of these bad teams with good coaching, and he would be the guy who can possibly come in and be the next marino

 

[SabanHater]

I see us winning on Thanksgiving. Just a sickening gut feeling I have. If we win that day I swear the turkey won't taste as good.

 

[datruth55]

Head to head does not count. It is possible that Miami could lose to KC, finish with the same record as the Chiefs and still pick behind them.

True but if the season ended right now we'd be picking 3rd. St. Louis has the first pick, Indy has the second, Minnesota (thanks to 4-0 Green Bay and 4-0 Detroit) will pick 4th.

 

[Romy148]

sorry at this point that is it we need to consider the future, winning 5 or 6 games will be very meaningless but getting one of the brightest QB to come out since Peyton is what we need. We can no longer go around playing football without a real franchise qb, look at Detroit how different they look w/ their young stud QB and the Ravens, ATL. Henne is a decent backup and that is all he will ever be.

 

[Vaark]

True but if the season ended right now we'd be picking 3rd. St. Louis has the first pick, Indy has the second, Minnesota (thanks to 4-0 Green Bay and 4-0 Detroit) will pick 4th.

Orton, Quinn and/or Tebow. Don't necessarily dismiss Elway/Denver from the Luck Derby just because of their solitary win.

 

[NRA]

YOUR ALL NOT SEEING THE REAL PICTURE: .

we probably need the top spot or number 2 spot to land him, but not for the reasons you think.

all but one of the "competitors" for luck would more than likely trade the top pic or second over all to a team in the middle of the draft who have more ammo to make a trade. some of the teams in this luck "competition" do not need him. examples:

THE COLTS: any idea how much money they have tied up in manning? how much of that is gueranteed? that money could pay down the better portion of the obama national debt!! manning has a crap load of good football left in him and unless a team of different dr's tell the colts hes done, hes thrown his last ball, QB will not be their choice at the top of the draft. they will take one later in the draft. so, if they are picking #1 or #2? they trade the pic for more choices. the colts are not as bad a team as their record says. when, [or if] they get over the no manning shock, they will end up with 5-7 wins.

THE CHIEFS: since when did matt cassell become chicken feed?he is a great young qb and its the talent empty team that needs addressed, not the qb spot. he is playing best he can with a poor o-line, 1 good wr and porous defense. they have a bunch of money and hi draft choices locked up in cassell so they too will trade out of the #1 or #2 spot, unless a cant miss pass rusher, cover cb or sure fire, ready for pro bowl wr is on the board. and they still could if a big enough deal is offered.


THE VIKINGS: here is our problem. qb IS an issue there. they have no big money or pics locked up in old man mcnabb. they will take luck if they have the pic before us. if the vikings [and i just dont see it] continue on this no win path, then andrew luck will either be in a finz or viking uniform. but, that team has a bunch of REAL talent. when they shake the cobwebs out, i look for them to have a good 6-7 wins by the time its all over. if that happens, no luck for them.

WERE LOOKING BETTER than most people think. we have 2 issues, the vikings choosing before us or [dont laugh] ireland and or sparano coming back, which would mean henne will be the starter again and we will trade down for the best rt on the board. if those 2 things dont happen, the andrew luck era will begin in miami!!!

 

[MiamiNative0722]

YOUR ALL NOT SEEING THE REAL PICTURE: .

we probably need the top spot or number 2 spot to land him, but not for the reasons you think.

all but one of the "competitors" for luck would more than likely trade the top pic or second over all to a team in the middle of the draft who have more ammo to make a trade. some of the teams in this luck "competition" do not need him. examples:

THE COLTS: any idea how much money they have tied up in manning? how much of that is gueranteed? that money could pay down the better portion of the obama national debt!! manning has a crap load of good football left in him and unless a team of different dr's tell the colts hes done, hes thrown his last ball, QB will not be their choice at the top of the draft. they will take one later in the draft. so, if they are picking #1 or #2? they trade the pic for more choices. the colts are not as bad a team as their record says. when, [or if] they get over the no manning shock, they will end up with 5-7 wins.

THE CHIEFS: since when did matt cassell become chicken feed?he is a great young qb and its the talent empty team that needs addressed, not the qb spot. he is playing best he can with a poor o-line, 1 good wr and porous defense. they have a bunch of money and hi draft choices locked up in cassell so they too will trade out of the #1 or #2 spot, unless a cant miss pass rusher, cover cb or sure fire, ready for pro bowl wr is on the board. and they still could if a big enough deal is offered.


THE VIKINGS: here is our problem. qb IS an issue there. they have no big money or pics locked up in old man mcnabb. they will take luck if they have the pic before us. if the vikings [and i just dont see it] continue on this no win path, then andrew luck will either be in a finz or viking uniform. but, that team has a bunch of REAL talent. when they shake the cobwebs out, i look for them to have a good 6-7 wins by the time its all over. if that happens, no luck for them.

WERE LOOKING BETTER than most people think. we have 2 issues, the vikings choosing before us or [dont laugh] ireland and or sparano coming back, which would mean henne will be the starter again and we will trade down for the best rt on the board. if those 2 things dont happen, the andrew luck era will begin in miami!!!

I completely disagree with alot of what you said... theres no way the Chiefs pass up Andrew Luck for Matt Cassel, you dont realize how talented this kid, some teams that have qb's now probably will not pass up on him

 

[NewCoachPlease]

YOUR ALL NOT SEEING THE REAL PICTURE: .

we probably need the top spot or number 2 spot to land him, but not for the reasons you think.

all but one of the "competitors" for luck would more than likely trade the top pic or second over all to a team in the middle of the draft who have more ammo to make a trade. some of the teams in this luck "competition" do not need him. examples:

THE COLTS: any idea how much money they have tied up in manning? how much of that is gueranteed? that money could pay down the better portion of the obama national debt!! manning has a crap load of good football left in him and unless a team of different dr's tell the colts hes done, hes thrown his last ball, QB will not be their choice at the top of the draft. they will take one later in the draft. so, if they are picking #1 or #2? they trade the pic for more choices. the colts are not as bad a team as their record says. when, [or if] they get over the no manning shock, they will end up with 5-7 wins.

THE CHIEFS: since when did matt cassell become chicken feed?he is a great young qb and its the talent empty team that needs addressed, not the qb spot. he is playing best he can with a poor o-line, 1 good wr and porous defense. they have a bunch of money and hi draft choices locked up in cassell so they too will trade out of the #1 or #2 spot, unless a cant miss pass rusher, cover cb or sure fire, ready for pro bowl wr is on the board. and they still could if a big enough deal is offered.


THE VIKINGS: here is our problem. qb IS an issue there. they have no big money or pics locked up in old man mcnabb. they will take luck if they have the pic before us. if the vikings [and i just dont see it] continue on this no win path, then andrew luck will either be in a finz or viking uniform. but, that team has a bunch of REAL talent. when they shake the cobwebs out, i look for them to have a good 6-7 wins by the time its all over. if that happens, no luck for them.

WERE LOOKING BETTER than most people think. we have 2 issues, the vikings choosing before us or [dont laugh] ireland and or sparano coming back, which would mean henne will be the starter again and we will trade down for the best rt on the board. if those 2 things dont happen, the andrew luck era will begin in miami!!!

Not only is your comment on the Chiefs wrong, but the comment on the Vikings doesn't make sense either. I would guess the Vikings would draft Luck number one, but they also did just draft a QB number 12 overall last year so you can't say they have no future options.

 

[Nublar7]

I thought same record was a coin toss for draft pick order?

Coin toss is the last possible tiebreaker.

The first tiebreaker is SOS. The team with the lower SOS picks first and so on. If the SOS is the same, than it goes to Division and conference tiebreakers for teams in the same conference. This is where head to head would matter with teams like the Chiefs. If they are still tied after that tiebreaker or play in different conferences, than there is a coin toss.

 

[roy_miami]

YOUR ALL NOT SEEING THE REAL PICTURE: .

we probably need the top spot or number 2 spot to land him, but not for the reasons you think.

all but one of the "competitors" for luck would more than likely trade the top pic or second over all to a team in the middle of the draft who have more ammo to make a trade. some of the teams in this luck "competition" do not need him. examples:

THE COLTS: any idea how much money they have tied up in manning? how much of that is gueranteed? that money could pay down the better portion of the obama national debt!! manning has a crap load of good football left in him and unless a team of different dr's tell the colts hes done, hes thrown his last ball, QB will not be their choice at the top of the draft. they will take one later in the draft. so, if they are picking #1 or #2? they trade the pic for more choices. the colts are not as bad a team as their record says. when, [or if] they get over the no manning shock, they will end up with 5-7 wins.

THE CHIEFS: since when did matt cassell become chicken feed?he is a great young qb and its the talent empty team that needs addressed, not the qb spot. he is playing best he can with a poor o-line, 1 good wr and porous defense. they have a bunch of money and hi draft choices locked up in cassell so they too will trade out of the #1 or #2 spot, unless a cant miss pass rusher, cover cb or sure fire, ready for pro bowl wr is on the board. and they still could if a big enough deal is offered.


THE VIKINGS: here is our problem. qb IS an issue there. they have no big money or pics locked up in old man mcnabb. they will take luck if they have the pic before us. if the vikings [and i just dont see it] continue on this no win path, then andrew luck will either be in a finz or viking uniform. but, that team has a bunch of REAL talent. when they shake the cobwebs out, i look for them to have a good 6-7 wins by the time its all over. if that happens, no luck for them.

WERE LOOKING BETTER than most people think. we have 2 issues, the vikings choosing before us or [dont laugh] ireland and or sparano coming back, which would mean henne will be the starter again and we will trade down for the best rt on the board. if those 2 things dont happen, the andrew luck era will begin in miami!!!

There's a clause in Mannings contract that they can kick him to the curb after this season and owe him nothing. Evidently that ******* Manning asked for that himself. Anyway, I'm pretty sure the Colts would take Luck regardless of what happens with Manning.

 

[MiamiNative0722]

Coin toss is the last possible tiebreaker.

The first tiebreaker is SOS. The team with the lower SOS picks first and so on. If the SOS is the same, than it goes to Division and conference tiebreakers for teams in the same conference. This is where head to head would matter with teams like the Chiefs. If they are still tied after that tiebreaker or play in different conferences, than there is a coin toss.

so in other words we cannot be tied with anyone or we would be done for

 

[flynryan15]

Coin toss is the last possible tiebreaker.

The first tiebreaker is SOS. The team with the lower SOS picks first and so on. If the SOS is the same, than it goes to Division and conference tiebreakers for teams in the same conference. This is where head to head would matter with teams like the Chiefs. If they are still tied after that tiebreaker or play in different conferences, than there is a coin toss.

I could see Ireland and Sparano screwing up the coin toss too!

Goodell... alright guys call it in the air
Sparano..... ROCK
Ireland.... SCISSORS
Goodell..... face palm