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I have a different view on this O-Coordinator Situation...

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Without really reading the coutless posts about Scott Linehan possibly leaving, I will throw out my two cents.

If we do not lose Linehan this year, we will certainly next year pending the decent season we all anticipate. After next year, assuming again all goes as planned, we should be in position to make a serious run at a championship. Losing Linehan after next season would require us, after probably a successful playoff filled season, to get a new offensive coordinator and start over again. If we lose him this offseason, I think the setback will be far less harmful.
 
Phinatic03 said:
Without really reading the coutless posts about Scott Linehan possibly leaving, I will throw out my two cents.

If we do not lose Linehan this year, we will certainly next year pending the decent season we all anticipate. After next year, assuming again all goes as planned, we should be in position to make a serious run at a championship. Losing Linehan after next season would require us, after probably a successful playoff filled season, to get a new offensive coordinator and start over again. If we lose him this offseason, I think the setback will be far less harmful.

What are you suggesting?

Saban break up with Scotty before Scotty breaks up with Saban?

I don't think you should look at it that way.
Letting Linehan go now could hamper our ability to be the best we can next year. If we could win a title next year before he left it would be a really bad idea to let the guy go sacrificing next year for 2 years down the road.

Besides that, you have zero guarantee on keeping any coordinator in the NFL today. If we let Linehan go now to get a safe hire for next year, what if that guy becomes hot the year after and we loose him as well. You go with the best guys you can find for right now when your talking coaches.
 
Trekbiz said:
What are you suggesting?

Saban break up with Scotty before Scotty breaks up with Saban?

I don't think you should look at it that way.
Letting Linehan go now could hamper our ability to be the best we can next year. If we could win a title next year before he left it would be a really bad idea to let the guy go sacrificing next year for 2 years down the road.

Besides that, you have zero guarantee on keeping any coordinator in the NFL today. If we let Linehan go now to get a safe hire for next year, what if that guy becomes hot the year after and we loose him as well. You go with the best guys you can find for right now when your talking coaches.


Woah, woah, woah....no where am I suggesting Saban get rid of him. That would be beyond stupid. All I'm saying is if he goes this year it probably wouldn't be as bad as if he left after next season after our offense would've had 2 full seasons in an offense and then have to go learn a new one.
 
Phinatic03 said:
Woah, woah, woah....no where am I suggesting Saban get rid of him. That would be beyond stupid. All I'm saying is if he goes this year it probably wouldn't be as bad as if he left after next season after our offense would've had 2 full seasons in an offense and then have to go learn a new one.

I do understand your point and while it may have some validity to it, you play for next season to win a championship, Linehan gives us the best shot at that.
 
Phinatic03 said:
Woah, woah, woah....no where am I suggesting Saban get rid of him. That would be beyond stupid. All I'm saying is if he goes this year it probably wouldn't be as bad as if he left after next season after our offense would've had 2 full seasons in an offense and then have to go learn a new one.

Actually, it might work out best if he stays another season. That way, Baggett can learn more of the intracacies of the offense, and he should step in immediately after Linehan's depature. Plus having him here one more year would be great for our rookie QB of the future to get a year of learning under Linehans tutiledge (sp).
 
oxman85 said:
I do understand your point and while it may have some validity to it, you play for next season to win a championship, Linehan gives us the best shot at that.


That is a completely valid point...I'm with you there, just fearing what may happen in the "process" that Saban speaks of.
 
after next year there will probably only be a couple head coaching vacancies. this years head coach firings,retirements and trades should steady the coaching market for a couple years. if linehan stays chances are he wont be leaving next year either, unless he's in the top 2 or 3 most sought after candidates.
 
Phinatic03 said:
Woah, woah, woah....no where am I suggesting Saban get rid of him. That would be beyond stupid. All I'm saying is if he goes this year it probably wouldn't be as bad as if he left after next season after our offense would've had 2 full seasons in an offense and then have to go learn a new one.

I got ya.

Just looking at the bright side of things.
Were lucky also that 2 proven OC's are available this year if Linehan leaves. You've got Norv Turner and Martz that could come in and take over. Still having the team learn an entire new system all over again isn't going to be a good thing.

Best scenario IMO is that Linehan stays at least one more year while one of the assistants is able to learn and maybe be prepared enough to continue the same system once he leaves.
 
People thought Weis and Crennel would get HC jobs after the 1st Pats title. It may take Linehan more time (by choice or not) then we anticipate to get hired. Like Weis or Crennel it would hurt him if he did build up his resume a bit.
 
My opinion is his loss will not be as great as people think, and I do think he is outta here. I think the play calling sucked midyear, and although we closed the year out good with him on the sideline, I don't think he is legendary by any means. Houck is the only one I would cringe if he walked right now. Saban I would cry.
 
Phinatic03 said:
Woah, woah, woah....no where am I suggesting Saban get rid of him. That would be beyond stupid. All I'm saying is if he goes this year it probably wouldn't be as bad as if he left after next season after our offense would've had 2 full seasons in an offense and then have to go learn a new one.


I got your original point, but from Linehan's viewpoint, right now he may not see us making as much progress next season as we've made this season. Afterall, without upgrading the QB and OL and possibly adding a better 3rd WR, this offense won't progress, it'll stagnate at best...Now, if we upgrade to a QB better suited to his offense and add an OL...it could be different. I realize he has to make his decision about staying or leaving before any of those upgrades can be made, but it has to weigh on his mind. Of course, the ultimate decision will be that of KC or some other team first....
 
Trekbiz said:
I got ya.

Just looking at the bright side of things.
Were lucky also that 2 proven OC's are available this year if Linehan leaves. You've got Norv Turner and Martz that could come in and take over. Still having the team learn an entire new system all over again isn't going to be a good thing.

Best scenario IMO is that Linehan stays at least one more year while one of the assistants is able to learn and maybe be prepared enough to continue the same system once he leaves.


Martz and Saban....like oil and water...besides, Martz has too much ego to join Saban...Saban will sit on his mouth and he probably can't live with that. Turner is too conservative for Saban and besides, RW would definitely not be happy with him. I see someone other than those two. That's not to say they aren't good OCs, just that they don't fit well with what Saban has going here.
 
Well you could have posted this in one of the many other threads about Lineham but since you didnt feel the need to read anyone else's thoughts or post in the other many threads on the same subject Ill do u a favor and not read your thread ok? I hate when people start new threads just to promote their 'special' opinion as though its worthy of its own thread.
 
Scott Linehan was a great O-Coordinator this year, but I tihnk everybody is making to big a deal out of the situaion. NIck Saban would find somebody in no time. Look at the Patriots, they had half there staff changed, they still were able to go 11-5.


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Phinatic03 said:
Without really reading the coutless posts about Scott Linehan possibly leaving, I will throw out my two cents.

If we do not lose Linehan this year, we will certainly next year pending the decent season we all anticipate. After next year, assuming again all goes as planned, we should be in position to make a serious run at a championship. Losing Linehan after next season would require us, after probably a successful playoff filled season, to get a new offensive coordinator and start over again. If we lose him this offseason, I think the setback will be far less harmful.

Love the Sabres emblem, btw. Have you been around long enough to know about the French Connection? I actually played street hockey a couple of times with Richard Martin and Rene Robert.

Disagree on Linehan. I think Linehan's play calling had a few problems in mid-season, but play-calling is not what the OC is really about. It's the system he put in place. I want him here for another year with that system and we really need someone like him - who is a real innovator - to continue to develop the offense with two great RB's.

I suspect he's gone this year. But if we are fortunate enough to keep him and lose him next year, we will have had his system for two years and whoever takes over will likely be from the ranks of other assistants for continuity. We can keep the system and have an assistant who has worked with our players and knows the ins and outs of it.
 
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