I hope we don't see Fiedler in again!

[Superself]

but most of feeleys yards came on the one drive

AT LEAST IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL DRIVE!!

I attribute all of his mistakes to Wanny not giving him the starting nod and allowing him time to gel with the starting lineup.

Wanny didn't allow him to showcase his deep ball. When he hits a few of those throws, the doubt will end.

Regarding Fiedler. I'm not swallowing anymore of Wanny's shoveled trash. He implies that he has the best QB situation ever...I say no he doesn't. Fiedler wouldn't be a decent backup IMO. Fiedler is a guy who could potentially lose a game for you if your starter went down.
Those throws were horrid! I wouldn't trust him to do anything at this point. His career should be over as a QB.

 

[Jimmy James]

AT LEAST IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL DRIVE!!

As I understand it, they're talking about the drive where the D was playing soft because the game was over. You want to call anything that happens under those conditions a "success"?

Wanny didn't allow him to showcase his deep ball. When he hits a few of those throws, the doubt will end.

Let's just hope that DW does let him throw the deep ball.

Fiedler wouldn't be a decent backup IMO. Fiedler is a guy who could potentially lose a game for you if your starter went down.

Like Feeley lost yesterday? My point there is that ALL QBs can lose a game for you. The key is that Fiedler is a guy who CAN win a game for the team if AJ goes down. He did exactly that against the Redskins last year.

Those throws were horrid! I wouldn't trust him to do anything at this point. His career should be over as a QB.

You're judging him on what was admittedly a bad half of football. If we did that to Marino, wouldn't his career have been more like 11 years than 17? Have a little perspective -- Jay statistically played even with AJ in the preseason. He may not be a starter, but he is hardly done.

 

[Superself]

As I understand it, they're talking about the drive where the D was playing soft because the game was over. You want to call anything that happens under those conditions a "success"?



Let's just hope that DW does let him throw the deep ball.



Like Feeley lost yesterday? My point there is that ALL QBs can lose a game for you. The key is that Fiedler is a guy who CAN win a game for the team if AJ goes down. He did exactly that against the Redskins last year.



You're judging him on what was admittedly a bad half of football. If we did that to Marino, wouldn't his career have been more like 11 years than 17? Have a little perspective -- Jay statistically played even with AJ in the preseason. He may not be a starter, but he is hardly done.

You are kidding right? Plz tell me you are just joking around here.

Jay is done ok. That half is indicative of what Fiedler's career in Miami has been about. Same ole same ole crap.
I wouldn't want him anywhere near my football team if I were GM. I see why Norv took off to Oakland of all places. Fiedler is destroy's your job security as head coach. Wanny just doesn't see it because he is blinded by loyalty.

 

[ABrownLamp]

Feeley had a horrible game too though. I am not sure if i want him back out there. HIs interception returned for a touchdown killed us. the only reeason he got a lot of passing yard on that last drive was because they were playing prevent and allowed us to throw the short passes. they just didnt want us to go deep so we give ourselves more time to score. I think we need to look for a new qb next year. i dont think feeley is the answer.

Yes, I agree. I too have given up on him after 2 quarters of football...you are right, clearly he is not the answer...and obviously it was the prevent defense which allowed him to complete over 60% of his passes, and score a touchdown. Especially the touchdown. They were in prevent during the touchdown pass fifteen yards from the end zone. Dolphins84 is right...also with 30 yards receiving, Marty Booker looks washed up...I give up on him too. And Jason Taylor is washed up.

 

[Jimmy James]

Jay is done ok. That half is indicative of what Fiedler's career in Miami has been about. Same ole same ole crap.

Jay's QB rating yesterday was an 8. His rating has been between 72 and 85 in his time in Miami. I do believe his preseason stats were in that range as well. I understand that you are blinded by your Jay hatred, but try to get past that and recognize how silly that statement is.

I wouldn't want him anywhere near my football team if I were GM. I see why Norv took off to Oakland of all places. Fiedler is destroy's your job security as head coach. Wanny just doesn't see it because he is blinded by loyalty.

As with many people here (including me), it would be entertaining to see you be the GM. I think it would be a truly humbling experience. If utilized properly Jay doesn't destroy job security. In fact, Tom Coughlin's job security was at its PEAK when Jay was on that team. You guys who act like Jay has powers of mesmerism that he uses on Wanny to "blind" him crack me up...

 

[Drfletcherdc]

We need Jay to stay focus as a backup. I believe Jay couldn't start for any other team, but he will be a good backup for a few games. AJ clearly is a better thrower.

 

[Fresh]

Feeley had a horrible game too though.

Either you didn't watch the game or you just don't know football. As far as I'm concerned, Lamar Gordon took full responsibility for the interception(he's excused as he's only been here for 3 days). Feeley made one bad play the entire game while Fiedler did absolutely NOTHING good. Let's not forget that we didn't even open up the playbook for A.J.(see the Chambers article at PBP).

68% completion rate after throwing 31 passes is horrible? :roflmao:

 

[Superself]

Jay's QB rating yesterday was an 8. His rating has been between 72 and 85 in his time in Miami. I do believe his preseason stats were in that range as well. I understand that you are blinded by your Jay hatred, but try to get past that and recognize how silly that statement is.



As with many people here (including me), it would be entertaining to see you be the GM. I think it would be a truly humbling experience. If utilized properly Jay doesn't destroy job security. In fact, Tom Coughlin's job security was at its PEAK when Jay was on that team. You guys who act like Jay has powers of mesmerism that he uses on Wanny to "blind" him crack me up...

Didn't Rick give Fiedler permission to seek work elsewhere as one of his first actions as GM?
How do you utilize a QB properly who throws so many interceptions?? He is suppose to know the playbook inside and out...dammit he has been here long enough to know where his receivers are and when NOT to commit to STUPID mistakes on the field!
It should have been 3 INTs instead of 2.
His skills are declining and it shows on the field when he makes the same blunders over and over again. :rolleyes2

 

[Despacio]

Jay's QB rating yesterday was an 8. His rating has been between 72 and 85 in his time in Miami. I do believe his preseason stats were in that range as well. I understand that you are blinded by your Jay hatred, but try to get past that and recognize how silly that statement is.



As with many people here (including me), it would be entertaining to see you be the GM. I think it would be a truly humbling experience. If utilized properly Jay doesn't destroy job security. In fact, Tom Coughlin's job security was at its PEAK when Jay was on that team. You guys who act like Jay has powers of mesmerism that he uses on Wanny to "blind" him crack me up...

you know, there are people in here who have supported Jay for a very long time, and expect more than our starting QB to come in on opening day and throw 2INT and fumble once. Don't you get it, these people are tired of him not elevating his game to the next level. Worse, without Ricky, Jay is a sitting duck. After the game Samari Rolle told ESPN they knew Jay couldn't beat them with his arm. That hurts our already suffering running game.

At the least, at the very least, give AJ a few games. I know as a Dolphin fan you want to see this team win. So why can't you allow AJ to give it a shot? Certainly Feidler is not going to make us a better team than last year. And to say so far you dont think AJ is the guy, or your not impressed, etc. is ignorant because you have nothing to judge him on except two quarters of football in which he was put in down 0-7 and had a 2-day old RB to hand off to. Jay, we got 4 years to judge Jay on, good or bad.

Just give the kid a shot. Think of all the QB's who surprised the leage throughout the years simply b/c they were given a shot. :)

 

[4Dfins]

AJ only threw well because he was getting trash time with a soft D?

Can't remember Jay throwing well even during "soft coverage"

Jay plays better in second half after slow starts? Is that what a 4th quarter QB rating of 23 is? Jay didn't show anything he hasn't in the last 3 years... though his QB average of 08 (two digits to make it look better) was 15 points below his 4th quater rating so stats wise he would have improved 15 points. But hey, if you enjoy watching Jay play, more power to you,

 

[finfan54]

Facts are that you will see Fiedler in again. Hopefully, he sees what Feeley is doing hitting randy all day and not look to one guy, chambers. what i noticed about feeley is that he was hitting the short stuff to Gordon and Mcmicheal and setting it up for the long ball. There is a part of me thinking that Feorster is setting jay up for failure but jay is not looking to the short stuff that works. I dont think this offense is going to be jays to run becuase it will be built on setting everything up and that is not jays thing.

 

[finfan54]

you know, there are people in here who have supported Jay for a very long time, and expect more than our starting QB to come in on opening day and throw 2INT and fumble once. Don't you get it, these people are tired of him not elevating his game to the next level. Worse, without Ricky, Jay is a sitting duck. After the game Samari Rolle told ESPN they knew Jay couldn't beat them with his arm. That hurts our already suffering running game.

At the least, at the very least, give AJ a few games. I know as a Dolphin fan you want to see this team win. So why can't you allow AJ to give it a shot? Certainly Feidler is not going to make us a better team than last year. And to say so far you dont think AJ is the guy, or your not impressed, etc. is ignorant because you have nothing to judge him on except two quarters of football in which he was put in down 0-7 and had a 2-day old RB to hand off to. Jay, we got 4 years to judge Jay on, good or bad.

Just give the kid a shot. Think of all the QB's who surprised the leage throughout the years simply b/c they were given a shot. :)

there is no doubt at this point to give feeley the whole season. but there are alot of people who are ignoring mistakes by feeley as well and are protective of him.

 

[phinfan2003]

did you guys actually watch the game or are you going by highlights? Although Feeley had that big interception, he clearly was an improvement over Fiedler. He made nice throws and moved the offense. The Titans D wanted to put up a shutout and were not in prevent until the last drive. If we're going to say Feeley is not the answer simply because he made 1 bad throw, then there aren't many QB's out there that would be the answer either. Give the guy more than a half of a game before you decide that he's not the answer.

 

[Jimmy James]

you know, there are people in here who have supported Jay for a very long time, and expect more than our starting QB to come in on opening day and throw 2INT and fumble once. Don't you get it, these people are tired of him not elevating his game to the next level.

I want a better QB, too. I hope AJ is that man. At the same time, I will not stand for the type of garbage the guy I was responding to was running. Jay is in no way done, and he WILL make a good backup for this team for at least this year if not longer.

At the least, at the very least, give AJ a few games. I know as a Dolphin fan you want to see this team win. So why can't you allow AJ to give it a shot?

I'm on the record as saying I don't want to see Jay for at least the next four games unless there is injury, a blowout in our favor, or a staggeringly incompetant performance (7-8 ints). I'd love to see AJ succeed, leaving Jay on the bench for the rest of the year. That again doesn't change the fact that I will defend Jay from the **** he takes because he never has deserved the abuse. I don't think it is inappropriate to advocate him being the 2nd string guy, but people need to keep it on a professional sort of level.

Certainly Feidler is not going to make us a better team than last year. And to say so far you dont think AJ is the guy, or your not impressed, etc. is ignorant because you have nothing to judge him on except two quarters of football in which he was put in down 0-7 and had a 2-day old RB to hand off to. Jay, we got 4 years to judge Jay on, good or bad.

Just give the kid a shot. Think of all the QB's who surprised the leage throughout the years simply b/c they were given a shot. :)

Show me when I have said I don't think AJ is the guy. I'm in his corner. Perhaps you should pay attention to what people say before calling them out.

 

[Jester365]

With Fumbler starting we would be looking at an 8-8 year, and probable elimination from the playoffs before Christmas. With Feeley who knows what will happen? :eek:

One thing for sure, if AJ is next years QB, he NEEDS to remain the starter ! ! ! :D

Another thing that is "certain" we will never go very far with Dumbstache controlling the offense! :yell: