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Sadly, I have been unable to keep up with the Fins this pre-season, been enthralled with the improving state of football at Louisville. Be that as it may, can anybody find it in their hearts to help this Cooper City Cowboy in Louisville with some breakdown as to what the word out of Davie might be? So much information here at this great site, its tough to sort through it all and know who is candy coating and who isn't.

Thanks in advance!
 
I'll give it a shot. If I missed anything, I'm sure others will add to it.

Here's a quick review on the haps with our Fins this preseason:

QB - So far our QBs have not done anything to calm the anxieties among the fans, or better yet; the coaching staff. Gus Frerotte or A.J. Feeley have not done much to seperate themselves from each other to claim the #1 spot outright :( . IMO, Brock Berlin is battling for the #3 spot with Sage Rosenfels who is in a slight lead. You gotta love Rosenfels arm, but it just seems he cannot do anything in the coaches eyes to push for the #2 spot. If he's not careful, Berlin could sneak in there and steal the #3 spot away from Rosenfels; but I consider that a very very long shot. I think Berlin has been a pleasant surprise with his performance against the fourth stringers, but keep in mind; he's only been playing against the other team's camp fodders during the preseason games, so you may not want to read in too much about that.

RB - It's hard to judge the RB's. We are very deep in the position with Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, Sammy Morris, Lamar Gordon, Travis Minor, and Kay Jay Harris; but the offensive line has not done a good job with opening up holes for our RBs to run through. Ricky has been the best back we have through training camp and preseason games. Ronnie Brown has only been with the team for a week now, so we will be able to get a good look at him against Tampa Bay this week.

TE - We all know Randy Michael is our starter, although he had a terrible game vs. Pittsburgh (he couldn't block or catch that day). He will bounce back from that day. We may have found a gem (no pun intended :) ) in Lorenzo Diamond, he has clearly outplayed Donald Lee during training camp; and right now he has the inside track to stealing the #2 spot from Lee. If that happens; Lee will be cut.

OL - Where do I begin!?!? First, some good news; Vernon Carey is the most improved player on our offensive line. He's been holding it down at the LT position very well and he will only get better. Another player who is having a decent camp is our LG/C Rex Hadnot. He's had his up and downs this summer, but overall he's been very solid. Saban has been experiencing with Hadnot by having him take snaps at center, but he's been playing LG the last two preseason games. Our "big" free agent pickup is Stockar McDougal, but he had a bad outing against Pitt and Saban has demoted him to the second team for this week's game. As a result of the demotion, Damian McInstosh has been rewarded for his very solid play on the second team, and he's been promoted to play LT with the first team this week. This will move Vernon Carey over to the right tackle position in place of McDougal. Jeno James started off slow in camp, but IMO; he played very well last weekend. James has been solid overall, but I expect more out of him though. Seth McKinney, my favorite whipping boy, somehow is still with the first team. He was demoted to the second team for a brief moment, but was put back on the first team the following week. I still don't like him as a starter; hell, I don't want him as a second teamer either but I have to say that his play has improved just a smidge since he was put back on the first team. IMO, he has to go, he can't move anyone on run plays, and on pass plays he is the main reason the pocket collapses up the middle :yell:. The offensive line is still a work in progress and Saban is switching players around in the lineup to find the best fit for our lineup.

WR - We have a bunch of WRs that are playing well. The ones who will definitely make the team are: Chris Chambers, Marty Booker, David Boston, and Wes Welker. The remaining spots will be filled by either, Bryan Gilmore (who's had a very good camp), Derrius Thompson (who's struggling), Maurice Mann and Josh Davis.

That's it with the offense for now. I've run out of time. Maybe someone can help out by giving you the 411 on our defense. I'll check back. Take it easy. :D
 
Defense!!!!

DT- Unfortunatly Tim Bowens is finally gone, his back was not working out at all. Also larry chester has yet to take the practice field, though some consider that it will be soon. Currently he is getting back into shape, and has even been jogging. To add depth we added the double wide Keith Traylor. He showed up at camp, in bad shape though. He finally got some good snaps in the last pre-season game vs. pittsburgh. I guess he belongs here, so the surprise first string DT so far is DE Vonnie Holliday. He lacks a little size, but has held up alright. Luckily though he has the agility to stand up and do a little bit a zone coverage. That lookls like it will be important in sabans D. Zgonina is still here, and that guy is built. I cant see any fat on him at all. He currently is holding down the other starting DT spot. Then there are newcomers Manuel Wright and Vickerson. Manny is showing flashes of greatness, and long videos of being fat, and out of shape. Vickerson has been quielty working to get a roster spot. Saban wants to see some more fire out of these two. Last is Josh Shaw. He's nothing great, but he has showed that he is solid.

DE
Jason taylor is Back, and seeminly happy in his new OE position. But don't be fooled by any of the pre-season games, saban is not showing any of his cards when it comes to where jason will be. Albeit alot of talk from us about getting cut, David bowens is back, and just signed a contract extension. He also has the size to play the OE position as the back-up to taylor. New comer kevin carter has been solid and can play all the positions on the line. He's been a real mentor to a lot of the younger players. Matt Roth has been in some fights, and thats a about it. He needs to work on his technique. But like advertised, his motor never stops!

LB
Zach Thomas is back, and getting used to the new defense. He switched his offseason workout, to the one that seau uses to try and extend his career. Junior seau is also back, and played in his first game last week. Hamstring injuries has held him outa practice. He has experience with the 3-4 and is helping the other players adjust. Channing crowder is big, fast, and always around the ball. Please let those knees hold out. Donnie spragan has been a pleasant surprise. Very smart, and liking the new blitzing package. Moore is still injured, but you prolly remeber that from last year, and the year before that... Derrick pope Has had a solid camp. Jason glen who was a fan favorite of the jets is starting to impress. He has had key int, and sacks. He is also a great special teamer. Those on the bubble- Corey jenkins, brendan ayanbendejo,

CB
Sam Madison is at it again, and adjusting well to his new respocibilities: Zone Coverage, and blitzing. Travis Daniels is the talk of camp. He's been in the system for 3 years and it shows. He has been very solid, and could be the starter. Reggie howard has been having a tough camp, but recently has been catching on to the system. He played zone coverage for the super bowl panthers, hopefully he keeps it up, or him and that huge salary are gone next year. Mario edwards has been injured, but no big loss to us. Kris Richard was brought in from the seahawks. He will need time to learn. On the bubble- Deandre eiland, parker, green.

Saftey.
Saban doesnt use a free saftey and a Strong safety per say. Rather its more like right saftey and left saftey. Saban loves unpredictability. Lance schulters is working his way up, as he is learning the system. Tebucky jones has been solid, but nothing spectacular. Yeremiah Bell Has improved a lot, and is fighting for a starting spot. Travares Tillman is an athelete, but is he a great safty? only time will tell. On the bubble- Tony Bua


Hope that helps...Go FINS!!!!
 
Great job guys thanks for the info
 
FinaticalOne said:
I'll give it a shot. If I missed anything, I'm sure others will add to it.

Here's a quick review on the haps with our Fins this preseason:

QB - So far our QBs have not done anything to calm the anxieties among the fans, or better yet; the coaching staff. Gus Frerotte or A.J. Feeley have not done much to seperate themselves from each other to claim the #1 spot outright :( . IMO, Brock Berlin is battling for the #3 spot with Sage Rosenfels who is in a slight lead. You gotta love Rosenfels arm, but it just seems he cannot do anything in the coaches eyes to push for the #2 spot. If he's not careful, Berlin could sneak in there and steal the #3 spot away from Rosenfels; but I consider that a very very long shot. I think Berlin has been a pleasant surprise with his performance against the fourth stringers, but keep in mind; he's only been playing against the other team's camp fodders during the preseason games, so you may not want to read in too much about that.

RB - It's hard to judge the RB's. We are very deep in the position with Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, Sammy Morris, Lamar Gordon, Travis Minor, and Kay Jay Harris; but the offensive line has not done a good job with opening up holes for our RBs to run through. Ricky has been the best back we have through training camp and preseason games. Ronnie Brown has only been with the team for a week now, so we will be able to get a good look at him against Tampa Bay this week.

TE - We all know Randy Michael is our starter, although he had a terrible game vs. Pittsburgh (he couldn't block or catch that day). He will bounce back from that day. We may have found a gem (no pun intended :) ) in Lorenzo Diamond, he has clearly outplayed Donald Lee during training camp; and right now he has the inside track to stealing the #2 spot from Lee. If that happens; Lee will be cut.

OL - Where do I begin!?!? First, some good news; Vernon Carey is the most improved player on our offensive line. He's been holding it down at the LT position very well and he will only get better. Another player who is having a decent camp is our LG/C Rex Hadnot. He's had his up and downs this summer, but overall he's been very solid. Saban has been experiencing with Hadnot by having him take snaps at center, but he's been playing LG the last two preseason games. Our "big" free agent pickup is Stockar McDougal, but he had a bad outing against Pitt and Saban has demoted him to the second team for this week's game. As a result of the demotion, Damian McInstosh has been rewarded for his very solid play on the second team, and he's been promoted to play LT with the first team this week. This will move Vernon Carey over to the right tackle position in place of McDougal. Jeno James started off slow in camp, but IMO; he played very well last weekend. James has been solid overall, but I expect more out of him though. Seth McKinney, my favorite whipping boy, somehow is still with the first team. He was demoted to the second team for a brief moment, but was put back on the first team the following week. I still don't like him as a starter; hell, I don't want him as a second teamer either but I have to say that his play has improved just a smidge since he was put back on the first team. IMO, he has to go, he can't move anyone on run plays, and on pass plays he is the main reason the pocket collapses up the middle :yell:. The offensive line is still a work in progress and Saban is switching players around in the lineup to find the best fit for our lineup.

WR - We have a bunch of WRs that are playing well. The ones who will definitely make the team are: Chris Chambers, Marty Booker, David Boston, and Wes Welker. The remaining spots will be filled by either, Bryan Gilmore (who's had a very good camp), [B/]Derrius Thompson (who's struggling), Maurice Mann and Josh Davis.

That's it with the offense for now. I've run out of time. Maybe someone can help out by giving you the 411 on our defense. I'll check back. Take it easy. :D

Great reply to his request. :up:
 
Wow!

Two OUTSTANDING responses! Thank you guys so much for taking the time to help me out.

I had REALLY hoped that bringing in Ferotte would push AJ to his potential, but considering the coaching and the scheme changes that came with it, its a toss up. Sounds like it may come down to the lesser of the evils and to me, I look to the experience of Ferotte to help offset the shaky oline play.

As for the D, sounds like they might need to step up and put some points on the board if the O struggles to come around. Is that possible? Clearly we need to stay healthy especially Seau if for no other reason than the steady leadership. I love the fact the Sam Madison is representing the Ville in South Dade so well. Tell him that the Ville still loves him. In fact, he spent some time up here this summer working with the Louisville DB's I believe.

Still not warming up to the idea of Ricky being back. Don't get me wrong, when he came to Miami, I thought he'd live up to his abilities and become a premier back. What do I know....

Anyway, thanks again SO much for the updates. And, what do I have to do to get Wanny out of my life? Miami? Gone. HOORAY!! Goes to PITT. Pitt is in the BE. My Cards are in the BE....

Game on. Watch the Cards show Wanny how to wear his *** for a hat on
THURSDAY NIGHT. NOVEMBER 3rd, 2005 ESPN
 
All i can say is that Ricky is so strange, it makes it hard to hate him. I was so mad last season, but he has come back in such a.....i can't even explain it. GO FINS!
 
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