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I Keep Hearing McNair, And I Don't Like It....

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It seems like with all of the QB's floating around this off-season, the one who's getting most of the consideration to end up in Miami, is S. McNair. I really can't understand why, and I don't like the thought of it....

First, he's an ancient relic. Second, the guy has had more nagging injuries on a yearly basis than any other QB on the open market. Third, and the most important question, is would he actually be an upgrade over Frerotte??...

I don't think he would be a significant upgrade, not enough to make our offense noticably improved. Many people may debate this opinion of mine I'm sure, but looking at the big picture, McNair's got very little gas left, if any. I think we'd be just as well off sticking with Gus....

Besides, it sounds like McNair still wants to get paid like a Pro Bowler, which he most certainly is not, and never really was in my opinion. If Saban's as smart as he seems to be, he already knows we can do better than McNair....

PHINZ RULE!!!!
 
Mcnair did better than Frerotte last year with less talent... much less talent.
 
Dolphin1184 said:
Mcnair did better than Frerotte last year with less talent... much less talent.

+ He actually plays through the injuries he has and because hes done it for so long it's natural for him. So if he does get hurt it isn't a wasted roster spot, because he still plays at almost the same level.
 
he would be no more than a lateral move...and in my opinion a waste of time and effort. A free agent would need to be an "upgrade of significance" not just "better" or an "improvement" to appeal to me. No digs on Steve, I love him, just don't think he is our best option right now.
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
It seems like with all of the QB's floating around this off-season, the one who's getting most of the consideration to end up in Miami, is S. McNair. I really can't understand why, and I don't like the thought of it....

First, he's an ancient relic. Second, the guy has had more nagging injuries on a yearly basis than any other QB on the open market. Third, and the most important question, is would he actually be an upgrade over Frerotte??...

I don't think he would be a significant upgrade, not enough to make our offense noticably improved. Many people may debate this opinion of mine I'm sure, but looking at the big picture, McNair's got very little gas left, if any. I think we'd be just as well off sticking with Gus....

Besides, it sounds like McNair still wants to get paid like a Pro Bowler, which he most certainly is not, and never really was in my opinion. If Saban's as smart as he seems to be, he already knows we can do better than McNair....

PHINZ RULE!!!!


If we stayed with Gus over McNair I wouldnt be disappointed. Nor would I be with signing McNair. If we did a 1 year wouldnt be bad. No future cap considerations if we let him loose after a year, or resign him depending.
 
McNair will do alot better then what Frerotte did this past year. The concerns that I have with McNair is that he is running out and he can't stay healthy enough to make a impact in the playoffs. If we do sign him, then we better have a young talented QB to back him up.
 
NoLimit84 said:
+ He actually plays through the injuries he has and because hes done it for so long it's natural for him. So if he does get hurt it isn't a wasted roster spot, because he still plays at almost the same level.

That's right. Someone commented a few weeks ago, that he has averaged 14 games played per year in recent years, except for the major injury he had that lost almost a year. But those nagging injuries don't put him out because he's tough. That's part of his upside and helps provide good leadership and get respect from players. I think the fact that he continues through injuries has become somewhat a media friendly subject, which is why so many of us hear McNair, and think injuries.
 
cnc66 said:
he would be no more than a lateral move...and in my opinion a waste of time and effort. A free agent would need to be an "upgrade of significance" not just "better" or an "improvement" to appeal to me. No digs on Steve, I love him, just don't think he is our best option right now.
Steve McNair is FAR better than Gus ever wishes he was.
 
How many years has it been now since we had a decent QB???...

Even in Marino's final years he was mediocre. We need to solidify that position once and for all instead of suriving off of these 1-2 year "stop gaps" like Frerotte / McNair / or any other aging veteran who's best days are behind them...

I can't get excited over the possibility of McNair coming to the Phinz. It just doesn't do anything for me in terms of feeling like we've upgraded the position. Maybe I'm wrong about McNair, and maybe he'd do well enough to take us further than Frerotte could, but never the less, we still need to find a young QB whp we can mold into our future starter at the position....

I'd rather try and lure Culpepper out of Minny, and let him sit the entire 2006 season in order to get healthy before I'd waste it away on a 1-2 year fix with McNair. Looking to the future is where we need to be focused IMO. McNair has no future at this stage....

PHINZ RULE!!!!
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
How many years has it been now since we had a decent QB???...

Even in Marino's final years he was mediocre. We need to solidify that position once and for all instead of suriving off of these 1-2 year "stop gaps" like Frerotte / McNair / or any other aging veteran who's best days are behind them...

I can't get excited over the possibility of McNair coming to the Phinz. It just doesn't do anything for me in terms of feeling like we've upgraded the position. Maybe I'm wrong about McNair, and maybe he'd do well enough to take us further than Frerotte could, but never the less, we still need to find a young QB whp we can mold into our future starter at the position....

I'd rather try and lure Culpepper out of Minny, and let him sit the entire 2006 season in order to get healthy before I'd waste it away on a 1-2 year fix with McNair. Looking to the future is where we need to be focused IMO. McNair has no future at this stage....

PHINZ RULE!!!!
I agree 100% that even if we land McNair we still need yound blood on the first day of the draft. I want McNair to step in and play for 1 year or 2 to develop or young QB.
 
tylerdolphin said:
Steve McNair is FAR better than Gus ever wishes he was.

so what? I don't think the difference is great enough to lose half a season while the QB comes up to speed, apparently you do. We will see what the guy in charge thinks not soon enough...
 
cnc66 said:
he would be no more than a lateral move...and in my opinion a waste of time and effort. A free agent would need to be an "upgrade of significance" not just "better" or an "improvement" to appeal to me. No digs on Steve, I love him, just don't think he is our best option right now.

I agree with everything you posted here except I do believe that McNair would be a significant upgrade over Gus Frerrotte. If you've noticed, I'm the guy who disagrees with every QB idea except for this one. McNair was league MVP in 2003, just 2 seasons ago. He did that with a subpar offensive cast that included a washed up version of Eddie George and featured Derrick Mason and Drew Bennett at WR. Had the Titans had anything to play for over the last 2 seasons McNair would have played all 16 games, that's a guarantee. He was the best player on their offense when the Titans were at their best you really can't say that for too many of the options that are being thrown around on this site. I think Steve McNair is the perfect choice for a veteran upgrade with a rookie (long term solution) waiting in the wings. I'm pretty clossed minded on this topic. I really only like 2 ideas.

1. Draft the QB of the future and stick with Frerrotte until the rookie is ready.

2. Bring in McNair to start, until the long term solution we draft is ready to go.

I've never been a big Drew Brees fan as I can't thing of one big game the Chargers have won with him at the helm and with all of that offensive talent around him you'd expect the Chargers to win some games. In fact right off the top of my head I can think of games where the Chargers could have won with a late score but failed. Refelction of the QB IMHO. Not to mention every time Drew Brees has played Miami, he seems easy to harrass as he has never played well vs us. I'd rather have a QB with similiar smarts and a stronger arm. Who's to say the Chargers couldn't have gone 9-7 with the Frerrotte/Rosenfels combo at QB??? We need to obtain a QB at the right price, I think Steve McNair is a good option.
 
I'm not a McNair fan, but statistacally he was better than Gus. He would bring a little (emphasis on 'a little') bit more to the table than Gus. I would only want him if he came reall cheap, which I doubt will happen. I would much prefer taking a chance on a young QB like Josh McKnown (sp?) from Arizona and then draft our QB of the future. Heck, for that matter I would rather take a chance with Tim Couch for the short term while we groomed our future QB.
 
What does it say that Ty Law thinks we'd become Super Bowl contenders if we had McNair?
 
SoDakDolfan said:
I'm not a McNair fan, but statistacally he was better than Gus. He would bring a little (emphasis on 'a little') bit more to the table than Gus. I would only want him if he came reall cheap, which I doubt will happen. I would much prefer taking a chance on a young QB like Josh McKnown (sp?) from Arizona and then draft our QB of the future. Heck, for that matter I would rather take a chance with Tim Couch for the short term while we groomed our future QB.

I'm not a McCown guy. I'll be very surprised if he turns into a good QB.
 
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