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Here is a link to the story I'm sure you've all read basically saying that Pennington is having a better season that Favre.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-4-191/Take-your-pick--Pennington-or-Favre-.html?lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos1
That is not the point though. The more interesting thing was reading people's comments at the bottom of the story. It got me to thinking: Pennington likely has 8 years left in the league. He won't really decline as he gets older, because he doesn't have to rely in arm strength. He's already proven he can quarterback a team to the playoffs.
Anyway, these comments are mostly from Jets and Packers fans. I think you'll find them pretty interesting:
1.)
Career-wise, Brett Favre, hands down.
This season and as a future quarterback? Chad Pennington has eight or more years left and many quarterbacks with arms as weak as his have had great success.
I would get tired of watching Brett throw dumb interceptions...he is a gamer, no doubt. But give me an unspectacular game control QB who minimizes mistakes, makes the correct read,(Brady) and gets the job done over the Gunslinger who more often as not throws a stupid pass at the worst time.
I will remind others that Marino was the prototype QB...and Joe Montana, skinny legs and weak arm the anti-prototype QB...and who has all the rings?
I am not comparing Favre or Pennington to Joe Montana...just QB types...
2. )
Tom Brady, Joe Montana, and John Elway, would have nearly the same results Chad did last year, if they played behind that line, and were coached by that staff. The only time arm strength comes into play, is when you are trailing and need a quick score. Chad is one of the most cerebral QB's out there, and he hardly ever turns it over in the red zone(I think only two or three times in his career,amazing), the dinks and dunks arent pretty, but they take time off the clock, which is very important.
3.)
I would luv to have had Farve in his youth which is like 35 because he is a freak but i feel that at this point Chad gave the jets just as much a chance to win with less hype and no loss of picks. But the farve jersey is a best seller so at least he did spark intrest and excitment which i feel would not have happened if he did not come to the jests
ment jets no pun intended
4.)
Pennington was a not a SB winner with the Jets, but he did lead them to the playoffs, and if not for conservative Herm, he wouldve taken them to the AFC Title game. I will always appreciate Chad's time with the Jets, he has more heart than any player Ive ever watched.
5.)
Football is a team sport, numbers mean nothing, unless the number is wins. Favre and Pennington play for two teams, with differant philosphies. The Dolphins have a much better running game, which opens up the pass. The Dolphins have a much better coaching staff also. Hopefully the Jets and Mangini, learn from the past two weeks, and gameplan better against the Bills, or its gonna be a long day.
6.)
People need to realize that dropping Pennington made the Dolphins a competitive team again, hurting the Jets playoff chances. Also, the Dolphins results vs. expectations is so much better than the Jets results vs. expectations. Before the Brady injury they were predicted a wild card. With Brady out, they still might not even make wild card. Bottom line- the Jets are underachieving (badly), and the Dolphins are overachieving (2-3 plays from 5-2, anybody?). Advantage Pennington as of now.
7.)
As a Jets fan I was happy about the other off-season moves and thought 9 wins was reachable before the Favre trade. I think the media and fans go overboard when it comes to Pennington's arm strength. I think his arm is strong enough to get the job done when healthy. Last year he wasn't healthy, so he played poorly, but he has led the Jets to the playoffs multiple times when healthy.
I didn't think the Jets needed Favre, but he may add a win or two.
8.)
I would never compare Chad with Farve but i would argue that the jets would have the same if not better record with chad starting and not having to give up picks to get him and you cant say that this is a long term fix with farve because he has at most 2 more years while chad easily has that
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Anyway, the comments go on and on. My point is that I think we have a real shot at winning a Superbowl with Pennington at the helm. Granted, we haven't seen what Henne can do yet, but he didn't knock my socks off at Michigan. I think his ceiling is Drew Bledsoe.
Half our fan base has such a hard on for seeing Henne throw it 60 yards they fail to realize that we may have already found our long term QB. It's our other Chad.
If Pennington's having this much success during his first 7 games with a new team, and that team is in the first year of a rebuilding process, can't we only assume he's going to get better?
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-4-191/Take-your-pick--Pennington-or-Favre-.html?lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos1
That is not the point though. The more interesting thing was reading people's comments at the bottom of the story. It got me to thinking: Pennington likely has 8 years left in the league. He won't really decline as he gets older, because he doesn't have to rely in arm strength. He's already proven he can quarterback a team to the playoffs.
Anyway, these comments are mostly from Jets and Packers fans. I think you'll find them pretty interesting:
1.)
Career-wise, Brett Favre, hands down.
This season and as a future quarterback? Chad Pennington has eight or more years left and many quarterbacks with arms as weak as his have had great success.
I would get tired of watching Brett throw dumb interceptions...he is a gamer, no doubt. But give me an unspectacular game control QB who minimizes mistakes, makes the correct read,(Brady) and gets the job done over the Gunslinger who more often as not throws a stupid pass at the worst time.
I will remind others that Marino was the prototype QB...and Joe Montana, skinny legs and weak arm the anti-prototype QB...and who has all the rings?
I am not comparing Favre or Pennington to Joe Montana...just QB types...
2. )
Tom Brady, Joe Montana, and John Elway, would have nearly the same results Chad did last year, if they played behind that line, and were coached by that staff. The only time arm strength comes into play, is when you are trailing and need a quick score. Chad is one of the most cerebral QB's out there, and he hardly ever turns it over in the red zone(I think only two or three times in his career,amazing), the dinks and dunks arent pretty, but they take time off the clock, which is very important.
3.)
I would luv to have had Farve in his youth which is like 35 because he is a freak but i feel that at this point Chad gave the jets just as much a chance to win with less hype and no loss of picks. But the farve jersey is a best seller so at least he did spark intrest and excitment which i feel would not have happened if he did not come to the jests
ment jets no pun intended
4.)
Pennington was a not a SB winner with the Jets, but he did lead them to the playoffs, and if not for conservative Herm, he wouldve taken them to the AFC Title game. I will always appreciate Chad's time with the Jets, he has more heart than any player Ive ever watched.
5.)
Football is a team sport, numbers mean nothing, unless the number is wins. Favre and Pennington play for two teams, with differant philosphies. The Dolphins have a much better running game, which opens up the pass. The Dolphins have a much better coaching staff also. Hopefully the Jets and Mangini, learn from the past two weeks, and gameplan better against the Bills, or its gonna be a long day.
6.)
People need to realize that dropping Pennington made the Dolphins a competitive team again, hurting the Jets playoff chances. Also, the Dolphins results vs. expectations is so much better than the Jets results vs. expectations. Before the Brady injury they were predicted a wild card. With Brady out, they still might not even make wild card. Bottom line- the Jets are underachieving (badly), and the Dolphins are overachieving (2-3 plays from 5-2, anybody?). Advantage Pennington as of now.
7.)
As a Jets fan I was happy about the other off-season moves and thought 9 wins was reachable before the Favre trade. I think the media and fans go overboard when it comes to Pennington's arm strength. I think his arm is strong enough to get the job done when healthy. Last year he wasn't healthy, so he played poorly, but he has led the Jets to the playoffs multiple times when healthy.
I didn't think the Jets needed Favre, but he may add a win or two.
8.)
I would never compare Chad with Farve but i would argue that the jets would have the same if not better record with chad starting and not having to give up picks to get him and you cant say that this is a long term fix with farve because he has at most 2 more years while chad easily has that
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Anyway, the comments go on and on. My point is that I think we have a real shot at winning a Superbowl with Pennington at the helm. Granted, we haven't seen what Henne can do yet, but he didn't knock my socks off at Michigan. I think his ceiling is Drew Bledsoe.
Half our fan base has such a hard on for seeing Henne throw it 60 yards they fail to realize that we may have already found our long term QB. It's our other Chad.
If Pennington's having this much success during his first 7 games with a new team, and that team is in the first year of a rebuilding process, can't we only assume he's going to get better?
