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I understand Tannehill not being signed yet. but Egnew and Vernon??!!!

Looks like we are the only team in the AFC East NOT to have signed all their rookies

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/44820/deadline-looming-for-dolphins-rookies

James Walker could be BSPN's worst writer, biased or non biased against the Dolphins, he is terribly innacurate and uninformed, he corrected the article listed above, however that was only do to a backlash of Dolphin fans tweeting him he screwed up, he originally wrote "Miami's first-, second- and third-round picks still do not have contracts " , clearly with no idea Jonathan Martin was their 2nd round pick and had already signed, the guy weeks ago wrote he believe the Dolphins have "no shot" at the playoffs, and he may be right, i tweeted right back at him "you probably said the same thing in 2008 right?" of course no response, but IMO the guy clearly directly or indirectly belittle's the Dolphins while declaring the Bills the paper champs while constantly contradicting himself and making mistakes like these which is an insult to fans of the teams who would do anything to report on the AFC East and their team, was not a big fan of Tim Graham either but at least he got his facts right
 
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James Walker could be BSPN's worst writer, biased of non biased against the Dolphins, he is terribly innacurate and uninformed,

the dude still doesnt know what a squib kick is. When Tom Brady did one last year in the playoffs last year, he thought it was an accident
 
The way players are getting arrested left and right it's probably not a bad idea not to give them a pocket full cash before training camp.
 
Dawn is the one pushing the Tannehill contract into this offset language whatever the hell that really means from everything I read it seems like a nice way to say "**** off" if Miami decides to cut Tannehill before the end of his contract.

As for the others, there is no reason to think they will not get wrapped up or even that the frame work isn't already in place to sign them before camp.
 
James Walker could be BSPN's worst writer, biased or non biased against the Dolphins, he is terribly innacurate and uninformed, he corrected the article listed above, however that was only do to a backlash of Dolphin fans tweeting him he screwed up, he originally wrote "Miami's first-, second- and third-round picks still do not have contracts " , clearly with no idea Jonathan Martin was their 2nd round pick and had already signed, the guy weeks ago wrote he believe the Dolphins have "no shot" at the playoffs, and he may be right, i tweeted right back at him "you probably said the same thing in 2008 right?" of course no response, but IMO the guy clearly directly or indirectly belittle's the Dolphins while declaring the Bills the paper champs while constantly contradicting himself and making mistakes like these which is an insult to fans of the teams who would do anything to report on the AFC East and their team, was not a big fan of Tim Graham either but at least he got his facts right

He sucks.
 
27 of the 32 First Round picks have been signed. Tannehill is only 1 of 5 unsigned first rounders and the player selected ahead of him and behind him have been signed.
 

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What do you mean by that? The odds are them being in camp on time is much better than them not being there.

... I mean that camp starts in two days so in all likelihood they won't be signed by the start of camp.
 
The way players are getting arrested left and right it's probably not a bad idea not to give them a pocket full cash before training camp.

Many of the players take out loans from a bank or agent before/after they are drafted.
 
It's funny every year people talk about this and the only long hold out i can remember was Louis Oliver and that was back in 1989......and he still started the 1st game of the year.
 
Will someone tell me why Egnew and Olivier Vernon have not been signed yet. We have 3 days until practice begins. There's no reason these guys shouldn't have been signed a long time ago. Is Dawn Aponte screwing things up or what??!!

Here are a couple of articles that may help explain the hold up in signing Egnew and Vernon.

The first one was written by Jason Cole a couple of months ago.

Numerous NFL picks drafted in the third round and later not cashing in on max deals.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--n...-later-aren-t-cashing-in-with-max-deals-.html
"You have all these players signing right now because everybody says, 'These contracts are slotted, it's so easy,' " an agent said, alluding to the fact that 116 of the 190 players drafted from the third to the seventh rounds this year had already signed as of Wednesday afternoon. "But then you look at these deals and see how much money is left on the table, money that the players didn't get, and you shake your head. … It may not seem like a lot of money in the big scheme of the NFL, but it adds up."

Or as another agent put it: "You might only be talking about $50,000 or $60,000 for some players, but this might be the only chance they have to get that money. A lot of these guys will be lucky to get through three years. It's not the millions that everybody thinks about, but that's not really how it works for all players."

The most egregious example from 2011 was Denver Broncos linebacker Nate Irving, the third pick of the third round. According to the formula agreed upon by the NFL and the players' association, Irving's maximum salary for the 2012 season could have been $512,188.

Instead, Irving received the second-year minimum salary of $465,000. That's a loss of $47,188. In 2013, the difference was $94,375 ($649,375 possible salary vs. a $555,000 actual salary). Over the second and third years, that's a total difference of $141,563 in salary Irving could have potentially received, assuming he plays three years with Denver, a strong possibility for a third-round pick.

Agent Fletcher Smith, who represented Irving, said he couldn't recall all the particulars of the negotiation with the Broncos. Smith said he battled the team on details such as the contract split in the first year in case Irving got hurt and on incentive language.
The second article was written by Len Pasquarelli of The Sports Xchange earlier this month.

Unsigned third-round picks squabbling over "25 percent" rule
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/...rdround-picks-squabbling-over-25-percent-rule
More than a week after wide receiver T.J. Graham signed his initial NFL contract with the Buffalo Bills, an agreement completed July 9, the deal has yet to impact the logjam at the top of the third round.

The presumed reason: While the four-year, $2.9 million contract appears to be market value, or even slightly better in some ways, Graham's deal does not address the stated aim of agents who have clients in the early part of the round.

That is, the goal of maximizing the so-called "25 percent rule" on annual base salary increases.
Graham's contract includes some concessions from the Bills, like base salaries that are slightly higher than the league minimums in 2014 and 2015 and $90,000 total in offseason workout bonuses for the final three seasons of the deal, but falls short of the goal articulated by many agents with clients representing top nine players in the round. The Sports Xchange reported two weeks ago that the unusual impasse at the outset of the round was a result of players and agents attempting to maximize the 25-percent annual salary bumps permitted by the CBA.

Agents for most of the unsigned third-rounders acknowledged that as the primary hang-up to agreements.

All 32 teams will be in camp by the end of the month.

According to the formula for determining the maximum 25 percent raises -- 25 percent of the player's signing bonus, added to his first-year base salary, and then 25 percent of the total of the two -- Graham was eligible for annual increases of $139,453. Based on his first-year league minimum base salary of $390,000, Graham would have subsequent salaries of $529,453 (for 2013), $668,906 (2014) and $808,559 (2015) if the 25 percent was "maxed out." Instead his bases for the final three seasons, 2013-2015, were $480,000, $580,000 and $690,000 respectively.

The salary of $580,000 for 2014 is actually $10,000 higher than the NFL minimum for a player in his third season ($570,000), and the $690,000 base for 2015 is a $30,000 bump over the fourth-year minimum of $660,000. The Bills sweetened the pot as well by including workout bonuses of $30,000 each for 2013-2015.

Including the workout bonuses, the Graham contract totals $2,901,252. Had he been able to "max out" the 25-precent salary increases, the total would be $3,068,170 even without the bonuses, a difference of $166,918.

The last of Buffalo's draft choices to sign, Graham received a signing bonus of $671,252, exactly the bonus pegged for his slot under the rookie wage arrangement that is part of the new CBA, and a $4 increase over the signing bonus for the player in the same slot last year, Kansas City linebacker Justin Houston. Graham's per-year average of $725,313 represents a healthy 12-percent increase over Houston's deal, a function, in part, of the increase in minimum salaries from a year ago and also the workout bonuses, which Houston did not receive.

But the contract numbers on the Graham deal, disseminated to the agent community this week, were greeted less than enthusiastically by some of the representatives with unsigned players in the third round. Said one: "It's a nice enough deal, definitely, but it doesn't get done what we've been shooting for."

Notable is that only one player in the third round, Seattle quarterback Russell Wilson, has received maximum 25-percent salary increases so far. The 12th player chosen in the round, Wilson clearly received a "quarterback premium" on his deal, but agents for other players above him want the same accommodation. It has created a sticky situation in the round, where such impasses are unusual.
 
It's funny every year people talk about this and the only long hold out i can remember was Louis Oliver and that was back in 1989......and he still started the 1st game of the year.

I'm not sure what you mean by long hold out but both of Nick Saban's 1st round draft picks, Ronnie Brown and Jason Allen, missed the start of training camp in a contract dispute.
 
It's funny every year people talk about this and the only long hold out i can remember was Louis Oliver and that was back in 1989......and he still started the 1st game of the year.

Didnt Ronnie hold out for like 2 weeks or something?
 
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