I watched the replay

[LANGER72]

Some thoughts about the back ups..
And I thought Garner did an outstanding job as the center in the 2nd half. We just gashed them up the middle behind his blocking. The guy can play every line position it seems.
Edds was getting beat on the running plays. I hope he just had a bad game. He did play well covering passes.
The RB Grigsby might be a player. He looks like he has power and speed, just very green.
Sheets doesn't look that quick or fast to me. Just another RB. I think he could be upgraded.
TE Epps looked like he has some pass catching ability, but he needs more work on blocking.
LB Marvin Mitchell looks like a good player. He was playing like a starter.

 

[dolphinfan41]

Nice to hear about Garner.

 

[finfan54]

Yeah, with Jake back too I think we will be fine on OL. I also done think columbo was as bad as made out to be. He is real stiff but he didnt exactly suck either. I think we are fine on OL.


But beyond that, there were other things i noticed intangible wise.

3rd down conversions even after bad penalties.
Even when drive stalled, we took time off clock and moreso overall. You want a recipe to beat New England? Run that clock and those fat *** Dlinemen down in the heat.
Henne's eyes were definitely on the Db's and where they were when sitting back in shotgun.
Very effiecient in 2 minute offense. so efficient, we scored with 1:13 left. starting from Miami 30 yd line. Large chunk plays.
We were dictating to them, not them to us. Henne very much in control more than people think.

on long balls, Henne needs to hold off one more half-second cus it seems like he is trying to get rid of it earlier but doesnt need to. If it falls short, receiver should still be able to make a play for it and get a interference call maybe.

 

[PlexGod]

on long balls, Henne needs to hold off one more half-second cus it seems like he is trying to get rid of it earlier but doesnt need to. If it falls short, receiver should still be able to make a play for it and get a interference call maybe.

I think its bevause he used to hold the ball too long and then would throw it short and make it hard for the WR to catch it or it would get picked. They are probably telling him to throw it early and float it out there and let the WR adjust to it and run under it. He used to throw a hard flat deep ball which was harder to complete against decent coverage. Now he seems to flaot it out there letting the WRs make the play instead of him making the play. Problem now is just timing and the fact that he has a cannon and seems to throw it 50 yards on a flick of the risk.

 

[finfan54]

I think its bevause he used to hold the ball too long and then would throw it short and make it hard for the WR to catch it or it would get picked. They are probably telling him to throw it early and float it out there and let the WR adjust to it and run under it. He used to throw a hard flat deep ball which was harder to complete against decent coverage. Now he seems to flaot it out there letting the WRs make the play instead of him making the play. Problem now is just timing and the fact that he has a cannon and seems to throw it 50 yards on a flick of the risk.

He either needs more air under it or just find a pump fake timing mechanism and throw it the same. Not easy to do with a new guy. They will get this down sooner or later. What I find to be really nice is he is hitting hartline and bess on the run and on deeper routes. Henne has it going on with bess bigtime. He uses marshall on short stuff and bush just makes everything like so spread out its not funny.

I can see it like this. Brady is Brady and he knows his system and players to the tee. But we have Bush who is way better than any RB they have because he is dangerous in open field. Our WR's are better IMO because although they can go deep, they cant do it with certaintly like when they had MOss. Now that we have LB's who can cover, I am not so worried about covering the two TE's. I think we match up well with New England.

Certainly no carpenter missed blocks on special teams with punt blocks.

 

[mrodriguez4096]

He either needs more air under it or just find a pump fake timing mechanism and throw it the same. Not easy to do with a new guy. They will get this down sooner or later. What I find to be really nice is he is hitting hartline and bess on the run and on deeper routes. Henne has it going on with bess bigtime. He uses marshall on short stuff and bush just makes everything like so spread out its not funny.

I can see it like this. Brady is Brady and he knows his system and players to the tee. But we have Bush who is way better than any RB they have because he is dangerous in open field. Our WR's are better IMO because although they can go deep, they cant do it with certaintly like when they had MOss. Now that we have LB's who can cover, I am not so worried about covering the two TE's. I think we match up well with New England.

Certainly no carpenter missed blocks on special teams with punt blocks.

Funny that you say that because I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I believe we match up very well against NE, on defense that is.

Will we be in sync quick enough on offense to put them back on their heels?? That's the question. Just alone on the fact that we can field a wr(s) with speed puts their defense on notice. That by itself is something we have not had to work with in the past.

Now, I pray that we just don't make mistakes which gives them a short field, we do better overall on special teams and we keep pressing their defense with our offense.

 

[LANGER72]

The addition of Gates and Bush are huge. Gates will command respect of the safeties shifting the defense deeper into the secondary.
Having Bush as the check down now is a big play in the making. With R&R it was a 5-10 yard gain, but with Bush's elusiveness and speed the play can go 10-20 yards or to the house. Bess is the same way, those short passes can become big gainers.
The beneficiaries of all of this will be Marshall, Hartline, and Fasano.
I like the way the offense is shaping up.
I just pray that Jake Long is OK, and we can remain healthy.

 

[LANGER72]

Funny that you say that because I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I believe we match up very well against NE, on defense that is.

Will we be in sync quick enough on offense to put them back on their heels?? That's the question. Just alone on the fact that we can field a wr(s) with speed puts their defense on notice. That by itself is something we have not had to work with in the past.

Now, I pray that we just don't make mistakes which gives them a short field, we do better overall on special teams and we keep pressing their defense with our offense.

The key to beating NE is to keep Brady on the sideline.That means running the ball. Controlling the line of scrimmage (Wilfork) is really the key. Another key is scoring. We cannot drive the length of the field and come up with 3 points...we will lose.
The other key is to put pressure up the middle and force Brady to break the pocket. Wake and Taylor will be there to clean up. With Dansby and Burnett, we have the Lb's who can cover their TE's and neutralize them.
If we can make the Patriots offense average, we have a really good shot at beating them.

 

[finfan54]

Funny that you say that because I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I believe we match up very well against NE, on defense that is.

Will we be in sync quick enough on offense to put them back on their heels?? That's the question. Just alone on the fact that we can field a wr(s) with speed puts their defense on notice. That by itself is something we have not had to work with in the past.

Now, I pray that we just don't make mistakes which gives them a short field, we do better overall on special teams and we keep pressing their defense with our offense.

One more thing I meant to mention earlier but did not was getting 6+yds on first down making 2nd and third downs much easier to call. marshall and bush will make getting first downs so much easier.

What this does is put the opposing defense out on the field so much longer and in the miami heat is where you just wear down a D. Back in old Csonka days, my father the Bills fan would be crying foul about how unfair it is that miami just wore people down in the heat and contolled teh game to death! It was so much fun as a miami fan as a kid just watching my bros. be so pissed at me cus I was over in the corner just laughin with a big smile saying how much shula rules.

I never understood why any OC would never design an O that would do that.

I believe Daboll can truly wear teams down with Bush and Marshall and two very competent receivers with a lid popper now. I get psyched thinking ab out it! I just cannot believe others dont see it or do not want to see it.

 

[UHHS]

Some thoughts about the back ups..
And I thought Garner did an outstanding job as the center in the 2nd half. We just gashed them up the middle behind his blocking. The guy can play every line position it seems.
Edds was getting beat on the running plays. I hope he just had a bad game. He did play well covering passes.
The RB Grigsby might be a player. He looks like he has power and speed, just very green.
Sheets doesn't look that quick or fast to me. Just another RB. I think he could be upgraded.
TE Epps looked like he has some pass catching ability, but he needs more work on blocking.
LB Marvin Mitchell looks like a good player. He was playing like a starter.

On Garner, you forgot to mention his belly and hips that make if fairly evident the man did nothing in the offseason. Put Garner against anyones ones and well, it would be fugly. Berger is history, if not, Garner would not be at center.

 

[teemu7]

I re-watched as well, and was encouraged by Chad's performance. On a few occasions he wanted or was going to check down but ended up looking elsewhere, particularly the end of half play to Fasano, he looked in the short flat for the rb i believe, saw it, but looked to a wide open Fasano instead for a big gainer. Conversely, the check down to Reggie was the right play as he saw the open field open up for him and gave him the ball.

I am quick to criticize, but he played a solid game Friday. Let's hope it continues.

 

[spiketex]

Henne looks a lot more athletic than previous years. I can't recall him taking off and running like friday night. He always looked a little pudgy but he looks leaner. Is it just my imagination?

 

[teemu7]

no, looks more confident too .

 

[beanh8er]

Henne looks a lot more athletic than previous years. I can't recall him taking off and running like friday night. He always looked a little pudgy but he looks leaner. Is it just my imagination?

He's definitely in the 4.7s. He's a lot faster. No one can say he didn't put as much effort as anyone in he leAgue to better himself.

 

[finfan54]

Henne looks a lot more athletic than previous years. I can't recall him taking off and running like friday night. He always looked a little pudgy but he looks leaner. Is it just my imagination?

it is not your imagination. I just watched his presser from 8-19 and his face def looks skinnier.

On the taking off running. That is what is called coaching. I imagine they sit in that film room and daboll just tells chad how much better he will make the offense by taking off when not seeing anything. Steve Young? prob not, but it will certainly open things up for the O.