If a pictures worth a thousand words…

[123phins]

there is this thing called a progression where a certain play has a countdown of where the qb looks, Clay me be wide open but if the progression hasnt made it there yet how can he see he is wide open? Clay could be the last target on that play all because of play design meaning lazor said look at wideout then slot, the rb then tight end, if he sees anything open he throws

 

[andyahs]

That picture doesn't tell the whole story unless you know exactly what play was called.

Sent from my Nexus 7 FHD

 

[cuban_refugee]

To me, it looks like #90 has his eyes on Tanny and would have pounced on Clay quick.

 

[PJack]

I do see that rusher to the right, but appears he has a nice lane to take off and run. Clay may even be able to block if he made a quick decision there. He had few opportunities to run for first downs and for some good yards yesterday. He has the speed and background where you would think it would be a huge advantage (former WR) but he never takes advantage of it. I just don't understand what goes through his head. Stands in the pocket until the the blocking breaks down, but never makes a move to take off. I don't want a running QB, but it's demoralizing to pash rushers that take off 4-5 times a game for big first downs. Also slows down a pass rush if they feel like they have to hold their lanes.

It's ever more frustrating watching Wilson making several huge plays running the ball in overtime yesterday for Seattle. Never got touched doing it either. Just so tired of watching our guy never work out.

 

[72champagne]

and i have clay on two of my fantasy teams. only roddy white could feel my pain.

 

[PhinFan1968]

I smell a vacuum backfire.

 

[1972fins]

I can't believe this ****, I think wen this happened it was 3rd and 22

 

[EmperorPhin]

To me, it looks like #90 has his eyes on Tanny and would have pounced on Clay quick.

It's still an easy 5 yard completion instead of another incomplete pass. Tannehill refuses to take the chunk yards instead throws to covered guy. If he would take the easy throws that are there like Gibson on the key 2nd and 1 this offense would be a lot better.

 

[Good_Dylan]

It's still an easy 5 yard completion instead of another incomplete pass. Tannehill refuses to take the chunk yards instead throws to covered guy. If he would take the easy throws that are there like Gibson on the key 2nd and 1 this offense would be a lot better.

Thats a 15 yd completion if not more...Clays a big guy and with that much rope the engine would be revved

 

[finfan54]

there is also a saying.

more to the picture, than what meets the eye.

nuttin but a snapshot.

 

[Dsteve]

its amazing the lack of football IQ on this board. You can't tell anything from this picture. looks like zone coverage and the LBER is right in front of Clay with a free rusher coming off the edge. You have no idea what the down and distance was either. OP, you suck.

 

[joeharley666]

its amazing the lack of football IQ on this board. You can't tell anything from this picture. looks like zone coverage and the LBER is right in front of Clay with a free rusher coming off the edge. You have no idea what the down and distance was either. OP, you suck.

"You suck"??? I don't agree with the OP at all but you're a moron. Look troll, we all bust balls around here, sarcasm is also welcome, but you suck with your personal attacks.

 

[napsndreds]

Not defending Thill here but if he is purposely looking for Wallace over everyone else, it would look like he's ordered to do that from Lazor trying to force the chemistry between those two. Or it could just be Ryan forcing it knowing he has to make it work. Last year he was hitting all his WRs, so I find it hard to believe he's all of a sudden ignoring Clay, Gibson and co.

and I would again blame tannehill if he is obeying orders in his 3rd year to throw to wallace every time with a wide open man in front of him..Unless lazor is purposely trying to tank i have a hard time hearing a coordinator tell a qb to only look at wallace and throw to wallace..this is the nfl not pop warner.. this again sounds like an apology for tannehill

 

[phins_4_ever]

I've been saying Lazor and been wanting to focus the passing game through Wallace since the first game.

Anyway...if Tannehill throws that pass to Clay, Clay is going to get lit up by #90 who's right there.

I guess you don't see too well. Look to the right, Thill is about to be smashed. Sheesh

Excuse making at its best. The only think you can see is Tannehill under no duress, clear throwing lane and an open receiver. It does not matter if Tannehill gets leveled after the play or not. It does not matter if #90 will hit Clay if he actually would.

Both of you are TV watchers. But unless you were in the stadium or have access to coaches filmroom your views are extremely limited.


The OP was at the game and confirmed what I stated in another post. I highlighted the important part in red.

On a serious note. I think we are talking too much about the drops. If your QB attempts 43 passes and completes less than half the 3 or 4 drops become a drop in the bucket. The WRs and the OL were the scapegoats of the past two years. But with our OL much improved I do believe Tannehill is becoming severely exposed to his flaws. Mentioning 3 or 4 dropped passed on 43 attempts with a completion rate of 49% is an excuse maker.
Those 3 or 4 dropped passes I will hold at least 5 bad passes which were caught and several incompletions which could have been INTs and two could have been pick 6s. The dropped passes are really nothing we should actually talk about at this point.

People are complaining about the playcalling on offense and I stayed out of these debates so far but playcalling was not horrible. But having the benefit of a whole field in front of me rather than just a limited view on TV I thought I wait the debate a little bit out.
Play calling becomes bad if you go away from a working play to a non working play for no apparent reason. The KC defense was so bad that we could have not only run as we did we could have also put 300 or 400 yards passing on them. Every pass play had open receivers. Everyone of the plays.
I want to go back to one of the plays which I think tells you everything you need to know about the play calling and passing ability (I actually would call it more vision).
There was one play where Tannehill backpedaled and hit Miller on an out for a loss of yardage. Tannehill was somewhat under duress but not severe enough to rush a throw. Miller had two defenders on him. 5 yards down the field on the same sideline was Wallace. All alone. He even raised his hands up. Nobody around him. It would have been a pitch and a catch for 5 or 6 yards with at least 30 yards in YAC because the safety was in the middle of the field. Tannehill must have seen Wallace. There is no way he could have not seen him. Miller was not the primary target. He was the decoy which worked perfectly fine. And if you saw coaches throwing their hats down in frustration after that play you realize it is not play calling that is the issue here.
Another example from the 4th quarter. Tannehill throws a quick out to the left side to Wallace. Wallace had at least 5-10 yards running room. Tannehill shorthops it. The scene afterwards is self explanatory. Wallace walks back to the middle of the field, Tannehill comes towards him and is trying to talk to him. Wallace walks by him and leaves Tannehill standing by the road side like a rejected hitchhiker.

It became a running joke after each pass play to count open receivers.

And while the Sun Sentinel talks about the crowd booing two times (end of half and end of game) they neglect to tell you that Tannehill was booed off the field a couple more times during the game.

It is not the game plan on offense which is a failure. And it is not the drops.

For those who still think that Tannehill is it and prefer to blame Lazor and the receivers they should turn their anger somewhere else: Hickey. He has done something none of us has ever envisioned nor expected. He revamped an entire OL and put a decent product on the field. But it took away the excuses for Tannehill. Right now he is exposed and the flaws some have pointed out over the past couple years are now highlighted. Unless he morphs into a real QB and has a breakout game next week he will not play for us anymore.

KC's defense was as bad as advertised. They gave up 58 points in two games. We just did not take advantage of our open receivers.

I take the OPs opinion and trust my own eyes over some 'evaluation' based on still pictures or a TV cut out.

 

[joeharley666]

and I would again blame tannehill if he is obeying orders in his 3rd year to throw to wallace every time with a wide open man in front of him..Unless lazor is purposely trying to tank i have a hard time hearing a coordinator tell a qb to only look at wallace and throw to wallace..this is the nfl not pop warner.. this again sounds like an apology for tannehill

Get real dude, I make no apologies for no one. Just stating what i see. I find it hard to believe he forgot to look for all his other weapons he found last year. Stop with your baiting it sounds dumb.