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If Dolphins Fall Short Of Producing A Winning Season, Will Ross Hit Reset Button? | Analysis

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It is ultimately Ross’ responsibility to make the Dolphins a winning franchise, one that’s competitive on the field because he’s responsible for hiring the right people. Yet, that seems to be the one aspect of ownership where he’s struggled.
If your leadership isn’t up to the task, where is your organization headed? That’s the major question Ross needs to answer this season because this organization has put a ton of faith in Mike Tannenbaum’s decisions, Chris Grier’s eye for talent, and Adam Gase’s ability to develop a quarterback, and produce a potent offense.

But none of them have truly excelled at those tasks so far.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-countdown1-20180716-story.html
 
Tannenbaum should be the first to go regardless of outcome. The contracts to Suh, Kiko and Branch are inexcusable. The lack of foresight for Landry is also questionable at best. Adam Gase is safe IMHO unless there is another scandal or he loses the players mid-season. I don't expect either to happen with the players he has now assembled.
 
For the love of God, no. You can't keep hitting the reset button every 2-3 years. Ask Cleveland how that works out. 2 years with Mangini. 2 years with Shurmur. 1 year with Chudzinski. 2 years with Pettine. 2 years now with Jackson, and everyone thinks he's next to go. And they more they do it, the worse it gets. ONE season better than 5-11 since 2008. Who the **** wants to go to Cleveland and coach with that sort of history?

And I don't care, Omar. It's still a reset if you change the coaching staff. You can't say "they didn't do a full reset" if they didn't fire the janitor.

It's a debatable point that this is the first year Gase finally has everything the way he wants it. He's had two years, one playoff appearance, and one year where pretty much everything that could go wrong, did. Unless the Fins go 3-13 or worse, hitting the reset button is stupidity.
 
DKphin said:
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It is ultimately Ross’ responsibility to make the Dolphins a winning franchise, one that’s competitive on the field because he’s responsible for hiring the right people. Yet, that seems to be the one aspect of ownership where he’s struggled.
If your leadership isn’t up to the task, where is your organization headed? That’s the major question Ross needs to answer this season because this organization has put a ton of faith in Mike Tannenbaum’s decisions, Chris Grier’s eye for talent, and Adam Gase’s ability to develop a quarterback, and produce a potent offense.

But none of them have truly excelled at those tasks so far.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-dolphins-countdown1-20180716-story.html
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Too many variables. If Miami goes 6-10, but the last 6 are 5-1, no. If there are injuries to Fitz, X, and Tank, no. I see no circumstance where Baum, by himself, is gone
 
1. 10% of problems is ross. hiring wrong coach or same type of coaches,,, Should of hired Tom Coughlin
2. 40% GM front office big????
3. 40% COACHING????
4. 10% players
 
The Goat said:
For the love of God, no. You can't keep hitting the reset button every 2-3 years. Ask Cleveland how that works out. 2 years with Mangini. 2 years with Shurmur. 1 year with Chudzinski. 2 years with Pettine. 2 years now with Jackson, and everyone thinks he's next to go. And they more they do it, the worse it gets. ONE season better than 5-11 since 2008. Who the **** wants to go to Cleveland and coach with that sort of history?

And I don't care, Omar. It's still a reset if you change the coaching staff. You can't say "they didn't do a full reset" if they didn't fire the janitor.

It's a debatable point that this is the first year Gase finally has everything the way he wants it. He's had two years, one playoff appearance, and one year where pretty much everything that could go wrong, did. Unless the Fins go 3-13 or worse, hitting the reset button is stupidity.
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Goat, you're becoming one of my favorite posters lately keep it up brother!


To me there is no way Adam Gase gets fired this year. If the team does bad imo it's one of two things either tannehills knee is done and we need a new qb (which I am sure Gase will be retained to pick) or tannehill completely shits the bed and can't play the position anymore after his surgery (in which case Gase picks his new qb)
 
If Thill stays healthy -- and we don't suffer another all too typical injury plague -- Gase & Co. better make some significant moves forward in terms of (a) SCORING (early and often is best) and (b) unleashing the animals on D to disrupt! In general, the league is pretty "average" for the most part -- top to bottom. So it's not asking for a miracle to have a winning record and play competent, competitive football game in and game out. There is no substitute for consistency!

If we play like the My Yammie Flounder... well... WE BETTER NOT!
 
Blackcreekbandit said:
Goat, you're becoming one of my favorite posters lately keep it up brother!


To me there is no way Adam Gase gets fired this year. If the team does bad imo it's one of two things either tannehills knee is done and we need a new qb (which I am sure Gase will be retained to pick) or tannehill completely ****s the bed and can't play the position anymore after his surgery (in which case Gase picks his new qb)
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Thanks man. I credit the increase in alcohol intake.
 
There are already subtle signs that Ross is getting impatient or at least, is paying more attention. Tannenbaum appears to be reined in a little bit on the personnel moves. No doubt he has been tagged with the Suh fiasco and the price tag. Ross was at odds with the draft strategy so it seems. I believe everybody is on the hot seat, including Gase.
If the season goes poorly, as many have predicted with no hurricanes, no injuries to Tannehill, no scandals, no London trip then Gase rightfully belongs on the hot seat.
I agree that you can't hit the reset button every two or three years but if the team regresses this season with no major surprises, it's on the coaches.
 
The only reason this is being discussed, is because of the fiasco of last year. I highly highly doubt it would be a discussion if things didn't go as bad as it did last year. Really the only bad decision that was made last year as far as coaching or management goes was bringing cutler on board. Gase was Rosses pick, he's going to ride that pony for at least another year or two.
 
Wise Dinero said:
So be it... I'm not joined at the hip with the guy. Just would like to see someone new behind center. Tired of the same old crap
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and what "same old crap" are you referring to specifically? Out of these franchise records which would you define as "same old crap"?
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Let's try this. Without researching see if you can determine which of these is Ryan Tannehill's, Tom Brady's and Drew Bree's first 5 seasons in the league......
(*good thing their respective coaches didn't throw them out as "same old crap"...huh?)

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RT.JPG

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Obviously you can tell which is which bc one shows the TEAM record and other distinguishing facts...BUT the overall point is personal production. Which there is literally no stand out. Will RT become as great as them...who knows, but I can tell you this, only one of those guys has had to endure multiple coaching and scheme changes, the worst OL in the teams history, multiple OC's, the most sacks in NFL history....yet still overcame to have nearly identical personal stats to begin his career. Oh, and can't overlook the fact that he also didn't have the luxury of a roster of elite help.

The "same old crap" this team has had to endure doesn't come from behind center, it's been on the sidelines wearing a headset and that has finally changed with Gase. Consistency is something this kid has never been able to enjoy and that is finally here.
 
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