If QB is Average, What is Fins' Record?

[DuderinoN703]

You still need good OL play, you are counting on Ricky who is unreliable, Boston is a question mark, Chambers is always supposed to step up to become elite yet he never does, McMichael is a head case and your D is average at best. You have skill players on O and if you get good QB play you'll be decent, if for some reason marino takes over Gus or AJs body and they play great then you could win another game or 2 but let's be real that is not going to happen.

1.We aren't counting on Ricky to do everything.
2. Boston isn't expecting to save the offense
3. Chambers has potential, and if he doesn't "shine", he'll still have some TDs and around 700-800 yds
4. What does McMichael's legal issue have to do with his play?
5. Defense is average at best huh? How can fans like us even come close to correctly assessing grown men who we've never met in person? You nor I have any idea what this defense is.

But then again, if we were the Pats, like always, there would be something negative to say

 

[FinsAreLife]

Most of the difference in opinion about the Fins' season hinges on people's expectations for the QB. Assuming that who ever starts puts up numbers that are about average starting QB numbers, what will the Dolphins record be? Last year, the median QB rating for NFL starters was around 83 (David Carr, Hasselbeck, Plummer). Assume the following stat line, which comes out to about an 83 QB rating: 3500 yards, 58% completion, 21 TDs, 15 ints.

Implicit in this stat line is at least decent protection from the O-line and decent production from the receivers. I think that with average QB play, the Fins should be in the 10-6 or 11-5 range.

average? 8-8, above average anything above 8-8 nothing other

 

[tay0365]

I am expecting the QBing of Miami to be average, and my prediction is 9-10 wins this year. If it is better then average, this team can win as much as 12 games, if below average, then Miami might only win as little as 7 games.

 

[tay0365]

Good QB play you'll win 7-8, average you'll win 6-7, poor you'll win 5-6.

Considering Miami has more weapons at WR, RB, and TE then the Jets how do you assume they only win 7-8 games? Is it because if Chad is good, you expect the Jets to only win 6 games? :confused:

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

You still need good OL play, you are counting on Ricky who is unreliable, Boston is a question mark, Chambers is always supposed to step up to become elite yet he never does, McMichael is a head case and your D is average at best. You have skill players on O and if you get good QB play you'll be decent, if for some reason marino takes over Gus or AJs body and they play great then you could win another game or 2 but let's be real that is not going to happen.

The only way Miami gets good QB play is if the OL plays well, Boston and Chambers step up, and there is a running game from Ricky or Ronnie.

McMichael is a head case?

 

[Big Hedz]

You still need good OL play, you are counting on Ricky who is unreliable, Boston is a question mark, Chambers is always supposed to step up to become elite yet he never does, McMichael is a head case and your D is average at best. You have skill players on O and if you get good QB play you'll be decent, if for some reason marino takes over Gus or AJs body and they play great then you could win another game or 2 but let's be real that is not going to happen.

How is our D average at best we average out to top 6 past 6 years in a row and been in the top 10 past 7 years (i said average six u know how to get an average right jet fan) Our D is great and with saban it will get better, maybe not this year but were defenatly up there:fire:

 

[Fineas]

Keep in mind that with that stat line, the Fins throw 11 fewer interceptions than last year. Last year, they gave up an absolutely ridiculous 9 defensive touchdowns. In 5-6 of their losses last year, a defensive TD allowed was the margin of victory. In 3-4 others, in the absence of the defensive TD, the Fins would have been within a FG of winning the game at the end.

 

[prolific]

Most of the difference in opinion about the Fins' season hinges on people's expectations for the QB. Assuming that who ever starts puts up numbers that are about average starting QB numbers, what will the Dolphins record be? Last year, the median QB rating for NFL starters was around 83 (David Carr, Hasselbeck, Plummer). Assume the following stat line, which comes out to about an 83 QB rating: 3500 yards, 58% completion, 21 TDs, 15 ints.

Implicit in this stat line is at least decent protection from the O-line and decent production from the receivers. I think that with average QB play, the Fins should be in the 10-6 or 11-5 range.

If our QB puts up those numbers we will make the playoffs

 

[FISHFAN44]

thanks man.
y did u get clobbered its not like a political statement just havin a little fun

don't know I guess a lot of Anti Bush people. Hey he looks pretty athletic better than AJ or Gus. I don't see the problem.

 

[painnotpleasure]

If a starting QB plays average, no matter whom it may be I really do feel that we a legitimate shot at playoffs. If our QB has a Pro Bowl year, I really do feel that we have a legitimate shot at Super Bowl. Simple as that. Yes, the O-line will determine how far this team goes this year too, but if our starting QB could perform average to above average, I'll definitely be seriously predicting playoffs.

 

[nyjunc]

Considering Miami has more weapons at WR, RB, and TE then the Jets how do you assume they only win 7-8 games? Is it because if Chad is good, you expect the Jets to only win 6 games? :confused:

You do? You have the edge at TE and that's it. We go in knowing we have a much better OL, QB and our WRs are less of a question mark at this point. Your best receiver still hasn't had a 1,000 yd season and last I checked Curtis was better than Ricky in '03 and Ronnie Brown is an unproven rookie so our RB's are better prepared to do well. Oh and we have a legit top 5 D unlike your phony top 5 D's of the past decade.

 

[nyjunc]

How is our D average at best we average out to top 6 past 6 years in a row and been in the top 10 past 7 years (i said average six u know how to get an average right jet fan) Our D is great and with saban it will get better, maybe not this year but were defenatly up there:fire:

paper top 10 but in big spots you play like bottom 10. You haven't had 1 legit big time D since the killer B's.

 

[Bonedoc7777]

7-9 to 9-7 with a average NFL QB

 

[tay0365]

You do? You have the edge at TE and that's it. We go in knowing we have a much better OL, QB and our WRs are less of a question mark at this point. Your best receiver still hasn't had a 1,000 yd season and last I checked Curtis was better than Ricky in '03 and Ronnie Brown is an unproven rookie so our RB's are better prepared to do well. Oh and we have a legit top 5 D unlike your phony top 5 D's of the past decade.

The Question was, if Miami QBing is average, how would they do. So to better compare, if the Jets and Dolphins QBing were average this year (Meaning both played at the same level), what you wrote would be severely wrong. Miami third string WR (Boston) would probably start on your team, so yes at WR Miami is better. In the two year that Ricky has played here, he has outplayed Martin,

2002
Ricky- 1853
Curtis-1094
2003
Ricky-1372
Curtis-1308

and Brown is better then anyone you have backing up Curtis, so Miami has better RBs. We agree that Miami has better TEs. The only advantage your team has is O-line, and so far Miami O-line has been looking very good the last two weeks, are they better then the Jets, no, but it is vert possible that the Dolphin's O-line is not that far off from the Jets.

What may make your teams offense better is that yes, you have a better Qb, and it is very doubtful that he will be average, but also remember one thing if Penny goes down (Very possible considering his fragile record), your team will be starting a QB that was backing up our backup last year.

Your record predictions was way off, but that is to be expected.

 

[ch19079]

Most of the difference in opinion about the Fins' season hinges on people's expectations for the QB. Assuming that who ever starts puts up numbers that are about average starting QB numbers, what will the Dolphins record be? Last year, the median QB rating for NFL starters was around 83 (David Carr, Hasselbeck, Plummer). Assume the following stat line, which comes out to about an 83 QB rating: 3500 yards, 58% completion, 21 TDs, 15 ints.

Implicit in this stat line is at least decent protection from the O-line and decent production from the receivers. I think that with average QB play, the Fins should be in the 10-6 or 11-5 range.

1) i think 21 TDs and 15 INTs is better than average. 15 TDs and 15 INTs is average.
2) there is no way your QB, or group of QBs plays that well, from what ive seen so far.
3) i still think your secondary is really bad.