If the NFL truly wanted to eliminate steroid use!

[shula_guy]

The solution is very easy. After a team wins a game, have every player give a urin sample before they leave the locker room. If one person tests positive the team forfiets the win. If they did this, steroid use would disappear. This is a team sport and when an indibidual commits a penality on a play they dont move the one player back 5 yards or whatever they move the whole team back. Use that same mentality with steroids and the players would make the problem go away. I am sick and tired of the NFL's posturing but really does not do anything to effectivly put an end to it. The truth is they only test because it is politically popular and they pick n choose who they want to test and when they want to test them.

 

[MR NFLFAN]

The solution is very easy. After a team wins a game, have every player give a urin sample before they leave the locker room. If one person tests positive the team forfiets the win. If they did this, steroid use would disappear. This is a team sport and when an indibidual commits a penality on a play they dont move the one player back 5 yards or whatever they move the whole team back. Use that same mentality with steroids and the players would make the problem go away. I am sick and tired of the NFL's posturing but really does not do anything to effectivly put an end to it. The truth is they only test because it is politically popular and they pick n choose who they want to test and when they want to test them.

So if a player from both the teams test positive the game never happened? That would kill the bottom line because what the NFL truly wants is $$$$$

 

[shula_guy]

So if a player from both the teams test positive the game never happened? That would kill the bottom line because what the NFL truly wants is $$$$$

I did not say you give the opposing team the win. I said you take the win from the winning team. It would not take $$$$ from the leauge because it if they institued a policy like that, steroid use would be next to non-exisistent.

 

[DuderinoN703]

The solution is very easy. After a team wins a game, have every player give a urin sample before they leave the locker room. If one person tests positive the team forfiets the win. If they did this, steroid use would disappear. This is a team sport and when an indibidual commits a penality on a play they dont move the one player back 5 yards or whatever they move the whole team back. Use that same mentality with steroids and the players would make the problem go away. I am sick and tired of the NFL's posturing but really does not do anything to effectivly put an end to it. The truth is they only test because it is politically popular and they pick n choose who they want to test and when they want to test them.

So the whole team goes down b/c one rogue player is on something?

 

[shula_guy]

So the whole team goes down b/c one rogue player is on something?

Yup

 

[Slim]

Then the Lions could all be on steroids since they don't win.

 

[shula_guy]

The point is if it one player cost the entire team a win teammates would stop one another from using instead of helping them cover it up or turn a blind eye to it. They would do things to stop it internally. Could you imagine if a team missed the playoff because a third string guy was using, they would cruicify him.

 

[burger13]

The solution is very easy. After a team wins a game, have every player give a urin sample before they leave the locker room. If one person tests positive the team forfiets the win. If they did this, steroid use would disappear. This is a team sport and when an indibidual commits a penality on a play they dont move the one player back 5 yards or whatever they move the whole team back. Use that same mentality with steroids and the players would make the problem go away. I am sick and tired of the NFL's posturing but really does not do anything to effectivly put an end to it. The truth is they only test because it is politically popular and they pick n choose who they want to test and when they want to test them.

where did this come from? Did I miss someone testing positive for for steroids?

I know a bunch of players recently tested positive for a league-banned diuretic...which was secretly included in a supplement, so the players didn't even know they were taking it.

Is steroids that big of a problem in this league? Who was the last player who tested positive for steroids?

 

[shula_guy]

where did this come from? Did I miss someone testing positive for for steroids?

I know a bunch of players recently tested positive for a league-banned diuretic...which was secretly included in a supplement, so the players didn't even know they were taking it.

Is steroids that big of a problem in this league? Who was the last player who tested positive for steroids?

No you didnt miss anything. The report about the banned substances is what put it in my head. The idea that the NFL is activily trying to eliminate performance enhancements IMO is a farse because it could be easily eliminated. Teams would let the leauge unfairly persucute people if it cost them a win and teams would not turn a blind eye to it if were actually occuring within their organzation for the same reason.

 

[burger13]

No you didnt miss anything. The report about the banned substances is what put it in my head. The idea that the NFL is activily trying to eliminate performance enhancements IMO is a farse because it could be easily eliminated. Teams would let the leauge unfairly persucute people if it cost them a win and teams would not turn a blind eye to it if were actually occuring within their organzation for the same reason.

It would have to be a HUGE problem for such a drastic measure. I can't think of a single professional sports league that ever took a victory off the books. it would be unprecedented, and IMO unnecessary.

this is the biggest 'steroid' scandal in the league in quite some time.....and it centers around a diet pill that contained an ingredient, but did not list it. That's it. that's the huge steroid issue in the league. hardly worthy of unprecedented measures.

the current policy is strict enough. caught once and you're gone for 1/4 of a season (losing 25% of your salary). Plus you're tested a lot more frequently, and a second failure is a 1 year suspension and your last chance. 3rd time you're gone for good.

 

[djfresh47]

The users will always be one step ahead of the tests. I'm sorry but that policy is ridiculous. I think alot of guys do use 'roids in the NFL. Though taking away a victory from a team is not fair. If anything it would move the players to find a new substance that is not tested for.

 

[shula_guy]

The users will always be one step ahead of the tests. I'm sorry but that policy is ridiculous. I think alot of guys do use 'roids in the NFL. Though taking away a victory from a team is not fair. If anything it would move the players to find a new substance that is not tested for.

You think it's unfair to remove a win from team who has players on it's team that are cheating. Are you also opposed to the athelete's in the oylympics who get stripped of their metals for testing positive?

 

[#1dolphinsfan]

You dont Punish the whole team for one guy i am sure if the coach and the other players on the team knew they wouldnt let him play or suspend him

 

[djfresh47]

You think it's unfair to remove a win from team who has players on it's team that are cheating. Are you also opposed to the athelete's in the oylympics who get stripped of their metals for testing positive?

If someone tests positive on a 53 man olympic team I wouldn't disqualify the whole team. I think it's unfair to remove a win when players on every team are cheating. When a single person tests positive at the olympics they should be stripped.

Also what about the teams and players that have admitted to being loaded with 'roiders? Should the Steelers teams be stripped of rings? Do the Raiders have to give rings back? Lawerence Taylor was high on crack during games. The Giants give back their rings also?

It's hard for me to punish 52 for the actions of 1. Let's also not forget their is locker room code. These guys aren't giving up names. If they are they're going to slammed like Jose Canseco was. Your statement to punish the whole team may work on 5 or 6 year old tee ball teams but not grown men.

 

[shula_guy]

If someone tests positive on a 53 man olympic team I wouldn't disqualify the whole team. I think it's unfair to remove a win when players on every team are cheating. When a single person tests positive at the olympics they should be stripped.

Also what about the teams and players that have admitted to being loaded with 'roiders? Should the Steelers teams be stripped of rings? Do the Raiders have to give rings back? Lawerence Taylor was high on crack during games. The Giants give back their rings also?

It's hard for me to punish 52 for the actions of 1. Let's also not forget their is locker room code. These guys aren't giving up names. If they are they're going to slammed like Jose Canseco was. Your statement to punish the whole team may work on 5 or 6 year old tee ball teams but not grown men.

I respectfully disagree on a multitude of levels.

1. I am not suggesting they go back into the past and start disqualify teams. I am speaking in terms of the present, forward. Whats done is done and going back and stripping titles does nothing to stop the use of banned substances in the present. That is the goal.

2. You say its unfair to punish 52 other guys for the action of one. Lets say the one guy using is an O-Line guy who is dominating his postion because he is cheating. He is giving his QB extra time to throw and opening huge holes for his running backs. Now you got other team members benefitting from his cheating and your opponet is playing at a disadvantage too.They are being unfairly dominated at that spot. Is that fair to them?

3. You say this approach would work in Tee Ball but not with adults. I say its just the opposite. If one guy on that team jeapordizes all the other players playoff money because of forfitted wins do you think they are going to tolerate that? I dont.

4. This is a team sport not an individual sport. When a player on the field commits a personal foul and the ref throws a flag. He dosnt penalize that one individual he moves the whole team back 15 yrds or whatever. That is part of being apart of a team. You are not only responsible for yourself but for your teammates also.

The only point I was trying to make was that if the NFL wanted to put an end to performance enhancers they could do it very easily. You can argue that it wont work or it's unfair but IMO it would work and banned substance use would be next to non existent.

The system in place right now is junk. They pick and choose who they want to check and when they want to check them. It's just another subtle way they use to influence which teams get into the playoffs and which ones stay home.