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Same team as last year, same games, but elite QB play-how much better do you think this team would have done? Playoffs? Won one? championship? Not much better-too many other holes?
 
It's a no brainer... i think people forget what an elite QB will do for a team as it's been so long since we've had one.

With a Manning, Brady, Brees or Roethlisberger, we're a SB contender... and the same can be argued about 10-20 other teams in the league.
 
With an elite qb, there is no way we lose to the Browns, Giants, Broncos, Cowboys or the Pats in the 2nd game. Beyond that, we're in the playoffs and have as good of a shot as anybody to get to the super bowl. If Peyton Manning can play football in 2012, he needs to be playing for us.
 
An elite QB may not guarantee anything because it's still a team game and you need playmakers at almost every skill position, but there is no question that an elite QB elevates you to where you're trying to get. Who is really surprised that the Super Bowl features two elite NFL quarterbacks yet again. If we had an elite QB you could probably flip our record to 10-6 with a spot in the playoffs.
 
Just quickly looking at the responses, if we can really contend with elite QB play, then go all out to get that elite QB. Forget what it costs, just do it. It's been 40 years since a championship, 30 since a Superbowl appearance, 10 since we've been seen as a challenge. Overpay to get Luck, or Manning or RGIII or Flynn or whoever you think can give it to you. On the other hand, we almost had two "non-elite" QB's in the Super Bowl this year. That would have really screwed up everyone's viewpoint.
 
Yeap, almost. Almost got there. Not surprised that they didn't because in the end, the elite QBs rise and the average Joes hit the wall on the big bright stage when you yourself have to go out and win it. Yesterday, Joe Flacco and Alex Smith, as well as they have played beyond expectations during these playoffs, showed their flaws late in the game. Indecisiveness and inaccuracy was evident.

How clutch was Eli Manning yesterday when it truly mattered...
 
JCane said:
Yeap, almost. Almost got there. Not surprised that they didn't because in the end, the elite QBs rise and the average Joes hit the wall on the big bright stage when you yourself have to go out and win it. Yesterday, Joe Flacco and Alex Smith, as well as they have played beyond expectations during these playoffs, showed their flaws late in the game. Indecisiveness and inaccuracy was evident.

How clutch was Eli Manning yesterday when it truly mattered...
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that's a bunch of crap. Is it flaccos fault that Lee Evans dropped that easy game winning touchdown? Is it Flaccos fault they shanked an easy *** fieldgoal to tie? He did everything he needed to do to win that game. Alex Smith also played very well. Only reason the niners lost was because that kickreturner fumbled twice. Flacco outplayed Brady.
 
mega-fin-love said:
that's a bunch of crap. Is it flaccos fault that Lee Evans dropped that easy game winning touchdown? Is it Flaccos fault they shanked an easy *** fieldgoal to tie? He did everything he needed to do to win that game. Alex Smith also played very well. Only reason the niners lost was because that kickreturner fumbled twice. Flacco outplayed Brady.
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Evans didn't drop it. It was stripped.

And Flacco should have ran for that first down rather than throwing an AWFUL pass into coverage. He could have gotten two more plays out of that because he would have gotten out of bound with 0:15 to play.
 
JCane said:
Yeap, almost. Almost got there. Not surprised that they didn't because in the end, the elite QBs rise and the average Joes hit the wall on the big bright stage when you yourself have to go out and win it. Yesterday, Joe Flacco and Alex Smith, as well as they have played beyond expectations during these playoffs, showed their flaws late in the game. Indecisiveness and inaccuracy was evident.

How clutch was Eli Manning yesterday when it truly mattered...
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honestly, joe flacco aside from that big int, he came right back down the field for the ravens on which should have been the game winning td to evans, or at worst, the game tying field goal. flacco started off slow, but got much better as the game went along.

as for smith, ya he stunk it up for the most part, but how was eli clutch yesterday?

ill admit im an eli ***** so it maybe a bit biased, but from what i saw, i saw a giant offense in the 2nd half that didnt do ****, led by eli manning. every single drive they were going 3 and out, or punting in the end. their 2 scoring drives were set up by one of the more boneheaded plays in nfl postseason history when kyle williams decided not to field that ball, and worse let it touch him giving the giants the ball at the 25 of san fran, and then in ot, same thing, giants offense did nothing, but the giants made a special teams play giving them the ball at the 20, setting up a chip shot fg a few plays later.

eli played well vs atlanta and green bay, but yesterday he was not good, credit the 49ers defense also.
 
mega-fin-love said:
that's a bunch of crap. Is it flaccos fault that Lee Evans dropped that easy game winning touchdown? Is it Flaccos fault they shanked an easy *** fieldgoal to tie? He did everything he needed to do to win that game. Alex Smith also played very well. Only reason the niners lost was because that kickreturner fumbled twice. Flacco outplayed Brady.
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ehhh i agree the 49ers lost because of Kyle Williams personally giving them the ball twice, however Smith did look terrible other than his 2 throws to Vernon Davis, ZERO 3rd down conversions, if Chad Henne converted at least 1 3rd down in a game, you can tell they still dont trust him as its 95% a run with Gore on 1st down, and 85% run on 2nd down to try and get Smith a 3rd and 3 or 3rd and 2, you saw in long down and distances Smith looked lost, ran around and either checked it down the RB 6 yards short of the 1st down marker, or attempted to throw on the and threw it into the dirt almost every time, an 18 second possesion when you know you need to eat up at least some clock and make the Giants use a timeout, if that was Brees with that many chances, no doubt the Saints score TDs or at least get FGs instead of Smith going 3 and out consistently
 
BahamaFinFan78 said:
Just quickly looking at the responses, if we can really contend with elite QB play, then go all out to get that elite QB. Forget what it costs, just do it. It's been 40 years since a championship, 30 since a Superbowl appearance, 10 since we've been seen as a challenge. Overpay to get Luck, or Manning or RGIII or Flynn or whoever you think can give it to you. On the other hand, we almost had two "non-elite" QB's in the Super Bowl this year. That would have really screwed up everyone's viewpoint.
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The Giants gave up the farm to trade for Eli Manning.

So far? One historic, amazing Super Bowl win vs the undefeated Patriots in 2007... a season that will never be forgotten.....

and now a second SB appearance.....
 
You guys just hate hate hate on Eli when he's one of the five best QBs in the league. The 49ers defense is absolutely 100% elite...and Eli went out there and beat them on third down after third down with their defensive front in his face. His offensive line let him down. Eli took lick after lick after lick and kept coming back. Threw the football almost 60 times in bad weather ON THE ROAD. No turnovers against a team that creates turnovers. Closed the first half strong. Damn good in the fourth quarter.

Why do people feel like they have to hate Eli Manning?
 
JCane said:
You guys just hate hate hate on Eli when he's one of the five best QBs in the league. The 49ers defense is absolutely 100% elite...and Eli went out there and beat them on third down after third down with their defensive front in his face. His offensive line let him down. Eli took lick after lick after lick and kept coming back. Threw the football almost 60 times in bad weather ON THE ROAD. No turnovers against a team that creates turnovers. Closed the first half strong. Damn good in the fourth quarter.

Why do people feel like they have to hate Eli Manning?
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im sorry, and as i said, i admittedly hate the giants, mainly due to having tons of giant fan friends who are annoying as hell about them, but what did eli manning do to play well in the 4th qtr yesterday or in the 2nd half alone?

they were punting every freaking drive they had, and if not for that fool kyle williams, 49ers prob win a great defensive battle 14-10.

if you wanna say eli is elite, go ahead thats fine, but im talking about yesterdays game specifically.
 
Definitely Flacco played better than Brady and might have won if they had reviewed the drop (probably not, but these refs are so off, you never know). Alex Smith probably wins if they don't call the questionable forward progress stopped and allow the fumble. Why are these refs so quick to blow the whistle. Let it play out and if it's questionable you can fix it on the replay. But then you blow the whistle and it can't be replayed.
 
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