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Looking at the odds for next week, the Fins would really have to screw up to miss the playoffs.... as everyone knows, Fins need to win coupled with either a Ravens loss OR a SD win... here are the odds as of righ now..
Fins: -6.5
Balt: +6
SD: - 9.5

So yeah, just beat the fcking Jets!
 
bengals should easily beat the ravens at home so essentially we just gotta win a home game we are favored in
i dont even remember the last time we were -6.5 def not at all this season
 
bengals should easily beat the ravens at home so essentially we just gotta win a home game we are favored in
i dont even remember the last time we were -6.5 def not at all this season

We were -7.5 hosting Buffalo.

The man-to-man (no juice) money line on this game equates to a theoretical 72% chance for Miami to win the game.

I'm still annoyed at the Chargers for covering the -10 last week against the Raiders. That wasn't supposed to happen, a 7-7 team covering that type of number. The other example last week cooperated nicely, with the 7-7 Lions blowing outright at -9.5 hosting the Giants. Oakland led 7-3 then was tied 10-10 when the Chargers ran off a string of points. I still expected to get the back door cover but Oakland stalled deep in the red zone late in the game, down 26-13.
 
We were -7.5 hosting Buffalo.

The man-to-man (no juice) money line on this game equates to a theoretical 72% chance for Miami to win the game.

I'm still annoyed at the Chargers for covering the -10 last week against the Raiders. That wasn't supposed to happen, a 7-7 team covering that type of number. The other example last week cooperated nicely, with the 7-7 Lions blowing outright at -9.5 hosting the Giants. Oakland led 7-3 then was tied 10-10 when the Chargers ran off a string of points. I still expected to get the back door cover but Oakland stalled deep in the red zone late in the game, down 26-13.
I was hoping you responded to this thread, I know how to calculate % in hockey scores, and wonder if it applies to football scores...?
 
the Vegas money lines for all four relevant AFC matchups:



AFC PLAYOFF BREAKDOWN


Team

Playoff Chances


Dolphins 67.7%
Chargers 15.5%
Ravens 14.1%
Steelers 2.7%
 
Chiefs must be resting their starters to be underdogs at the chargers, eh?

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I was hoping you responded to this thread, I know how to calculate % in hockey scores, and wonder if it applies to football scores...?

Hockey frustrated me when they changed the overtime rules. When it was even skating and only 5 minutes without a shoot out, I loved to take the +.5 goals. I don't bet hockey as much anymore, other than the playoffs when obviously the overtimes are standard hockey.

I'm not sure what your approach would be in hockey, or if football would be similar. Each pointspread in football aligns with a money line. The spread comes first, and then the appropriate money line is attached. That's why I always think it's curious and more than a bit amusing when people want to believe a spread is not a prediction of the outcome. The straight up odds (money line) are based on the spread and the sportsbooks move that money line when the spread moves. If a game has a spread of -3 and a total of 45, the point prop over/under on the favorite will be 24 and the point prop on the underdog will be 21. Yet the spread and total are not a prediction of the outcome. Remarkable.

I have some formulas that dispute the pointspread in certain situations. Generally, mediocre teams are given too much credit when they are favored big against teams in their own class level, while the best teams are undervalued against weak teams. But on this site and others I ignore what I think the spread should be and always list the likelihood of victory based on the spread and money line. For example, the Dolphin money line is consensus in the -290, +250 range. Splitting the difference aligns with a theoretical 72% chance of victory.

Someone in this thread asserted that Miami's chances were 67.7% based on Las Vegas odds. That's wrong, quite a bit low. At 67.7%, which aligns with -209, the money line would be Dolphins -220 and the Jets at +200 for a -210 midsection (man to man). As you can see by looking at the money line at any sportsbook, our money line is well above that -210 level.
 
Actually, I understand the 67.7%. It's probably the 72% adjusted downwards by the possibility of neither of the other two games unfolding the way Miami needs it to, i.e. with Baltimore winning and the Chargers losing.

Looks about right at first glance.
 
Hockey frustrated me when they changed the overtime rules. When it was even skating and only 5 minutes without a shoot out, I loved to take the +.5 goals. I don't bet hockey as much anymore, other than the playoffs when obviously the overtimes are standard hockey.

I'm not sure what your approach would be in hockey, or if football would be similar. Each pointspread in football aligns with a money line. The spread comes first, and then the appropriate money line is attached. That's why I always think it's curious and more than a bit amusing when people want to believe a spread is not a prediction of the outcome. The straight up odds (money line) are based on the spread and the sportsbooks move that money line when the spread moves. If a game has a spread of -3 and a total of 45, the point prop over/under on the favorite will be 24 and the point prop on the underdog will be 21. Yet the spread and total are not a prediction of the outcome. Remarkable.

I have some formulas that dispute the pointspread in certain situations. Generally, mediocre teams are given too much credit when they are favored big against teams in their own class level, while the best teams are undervalued against weak teams. But on this site and others I ignore what I think the spread should be and always list the likelihood of victory based on the spread and money line. For example, the Dolphin money line is consensus in the -290, +250 range. Splitting the difference aligns with a theoretical 72% chance of victory.

Someone in this thread asserted that Miami's chances were 67.7% based on Las Vegas odds. That's wrong, quite a bit low. At 67.7%, which aligns with -209, the money line would be Dolphins -220 and the Jets at +200 for a -210 midsection (man to man). As you can see by looking at the money line at any sportsbook, our money line is well above that -210 level.
When figuring out a hockey game, I take my model's predicted score and convert it to a % using a pythagorean formula, then use this % and convert it to a moneyline... Was just wondering if there was a way to get straight from the spread to a % and if there was, would the would the ratio always be the same between the ML and spread...
 
You never want to rely on another team losing/winning to get into the playoffs...and the only way they can really screw up is by losing the game vs. The jets....and did u notice the odds for Pittsburgh making it? Might be worth a $20 bill w those odds

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