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If you take your eyes off the question of WHICH QB starts for us...

ckparrothead said:
...you can come to realize something very positive. The deep ball is back in Miami, no matter which QB starts for us.

Like all of you, I've assiduously scoured every bit of training camp report from our fellow FinHeaven posters, as well as local Miami media and in some cases national media. Every day we look for some sign of which QB is going to start for the Miami Dolphins.

But sometimes you fail to see the forest for the trees if you look that closely. The fact of the matter is I can't remember very many training camp reports the last week or so that did not make mention of some beautiful deep ball to Chambers, some beautiful deep ball to Boston, or a beauty to Derrius Thompson...or Maurice Mann or Josh Davis.

I'm talking about progress. The kind of progress we haven't made since Marino left. Not only is the deep ball being THROWN constantly, it is damn well being connected. There are still plenty of "what the heck?!?" moments when Gus Frerotte throws a lame duck off his back foot or Feeley turfs a few balls in a row, but every day we hear about more deep completions and they are getting better and better at it. There's plenty of "oh ****" moments when Jeno James, Taylor Whitley, or Seth McKinney get blown up by our rookies and lowest rung defensive linemen...

But most of us here would be happy with a mediocre offense that places 16th in the league after the horrid performance last year. What I'm saying, is if you add Vernon Carey and Stockar McDougle's improved play at the tackle spots, to Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown, with the recent developments in the ability to complete the deep pass, and already our offense is bound to be a heck of a lot better than last year's offense. We've locked in important gains to the offensive side of the football, while we're still knitpicking about whether Feeley or Frerotte start at QB.
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:yeahthat:
 
ckparrothead said:
Offensive ineptitude comes just as easily when you try to "settle" for what on the outset looks like "easier" yardage in the short and intermediate areas of the field. But the truth is when you settle enough, you absolutely, positively lose your ability as a team to generate deep plays in the passing game. And when that happens, the defense absolutely knows it, closes up those short and intermediate areas of the field, and you're left sitting with your thumb up your butt because there's so many deep opportunities out there and your team isn't capitalizing on any of them because whenever you try something little goes wrong. Inefficiency and predictability come hand in hand. When you are inefficient at something, you become very predictable.
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Everything you said is true. It still doesn't address the matter I raised. If you get a pass happy offense, absent an upper tier QB, you're going to have a lot a of 3 & outs, inability to control the clock, and lots of INTs. I'm hoping for a balanced O, not a predictable run-run-pass-punt O.
 
ckparrothead said:
...you can come to realize something very positive. The deep ball is back in Miami, no matter which QB starts for us.

Like all of you, I've assiduously scoured every bit of training camp report from our fellow FinHeaven posters, as well as local Miami media and in some cases national media. Every day we look for some sign of which QB is going to start for the Miami Dolphins.

But sometimes you fail to see the forest for the trees if you look that closely. The fact of the matter is I can't remember very many training camp reports the last week or so that did not make mention of some beautiful deep ball to Chambers, some beautiful deep ball to Boston, or a beauty to Derrius Thompson...or Maurice Mann or Josh Davis.

I'm talking about progress. The kind of progress we haven't made since Marino left. Not only is the deep ball being THROWN constantly, it is damn well being connected. There are still plenty of "what the heck?!?" moments when Gus Frerotte throws a lame duck off his back foot or Feeley turfs a few balls in a row, but every day we hear about more deep completions and they are getting better and better at it. There's plenty of "oh ****" moments when Jeno James, Taylor Whitley, or Seth McKinney get blown up by our rookies and lowest rung defensive linemen...

But most of us here would be happy with a mediocre offense that places 16th in the league after the horrid performance last year. What I'm saying, is if you add Vernon Carey and Stockar McDougle's improved play at the tackle spots, to Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown, with the recent developments in the ability to complete the deep pass, and already our offense is bound to be a heck of a lot better than last year's offense. We've locked in important gains to the offensive side of the football, while we're still knitpicking about whether Feeley or Frerotte start at QB.
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if we were to believe like RW we would have no expectations. therefore we will just watch games or better yet, not watch football again because allah knows that if we were to look forward to something like good football, it would only get in the way. :: exhale::
 
ckparrothead said:
...you can come to realize something very positive. The deep ball is back in Miami, no matter which QB starts for us.

Like all of you, I've assiduously scoured every bit of training camp report from our fellow FinHeaven posters, as well as local Miami media and in some cases national media. Every day we look for some sign of which QB is going to start for the Miami Dolphins.

But sometimes you fail to see the forest for the trees if you look that closely. The fact of the matter is I can't remember very many training camp reports the last week or so that did not make mention of some beautiful deep ball to Chambers, some beautiful deep ball to Boston, or a beauty to Derrius Thompson...or Maurice Mann or Josh Davis.

I'm talking about progress. The kind of progress we haven't made since Marino left. Not only is the deep ball being THROWN constantly, it is damn well being connected. There are still plenty of "what the heck?!?" moments when Gus Frerotte throws a lame duck off his back foot or Feeley turfs a few balls in a row, but every day we hear about more deep completions and they are getting better and better at it. There's plenty of "oh ****" moments when Jeno James, Taylor Whitley, or Seth McKinney get blown up by our rookies and lowest rung defensive linemen...

But most of us here would be happy with a mediocre offense that places 16th in the league after the horrid performance last year. What I'm saying, is if you add Vernon Carey and Stockar McDougle's improved play at the tackle spots, to Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown, with the recent developments in the ability to complete the deep pass, and already our offense is bound to be a heck of a lot better than last year's offense. We've locked in important gains to the offensive side of the football, while we're still knitpicking about whether Feeley or Frerotte start at QB.
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Excellent post! Looks like someone has been doing their homework....
 
ckparrothead said:
...you can come to realize something very positive. The deep ball is back in Miami, no matter which QB starts for us.

Like all of you, I've assiduously scoured every bit of training camp report from our fellow FinHeaven posters, as well as local Miami media and in some cases national media. Every day we look for some sign of which QB is going to start for the Miami Dolphins.

But sometimes you fail to see the forest for the trees if you look that closely. The fact of the matter is I can't remember very many training camp reports the last week or so that did not make mention of some beautiful deep ball to Chambers, some beautiful deep ball to Boston, or a beauty to Derrius Thompson...or Maurice Mann or Josh Davis.

I'm talking about progress. The kind of progress we haven't made since Marino left. Not only is the deep ball being THROWN constantly, it is damn well being connected. There are still plenty of "what the heck?!?" moments when Gus Frerotte throws a lame duck off his back foot or Feeley turfs a few balls in a row, but every day we hear about more deep completions and they are getting better and better at it. There's plenty of "oh ****" moments when Jeno James, Taylor Whitley, or Seth McKinney get blown up by our rookies and lowest rung defensive linemen...

But most of us here would be happy with a mediocre offense that places 16th in the league after the horrid performance last year. What I'm saying, is if you add Vernon Carey and Stockar McDougle's improved play at the tackle spots, to Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown, with the recent developments in the ability to complete the deep pass, and already our offense is bound to be a heck of a lot better than last year's offense. We've locked in important gains to the offensive side of the football, while we're still knitpicking about whether Feeley or Frerotte start at QB.
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Yeah, but the big question is, who'll be our starting quaterback?:evil:
 
Agua said:
Yeah, call me whatever you think applies, but all you folks cheering a pass happy offense better be ready to take all the 3 & outs and ints that come along with it when there's not an all pro at QB.
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I dont think that Saban is going to let an offense be pass happy, but you have to throw deep sometimes. Saban is going to want to play defense and control the clock, but he is probaly going to let Lineham throw deep sometimes. You could tell the JJ and Wanny did not even allow the deep pass, it wasnt even an option. That would let defenses stack upclose and give them an edge. Maybe teams will have to adjust to our offense and stop some big plays for a change. You have to get a lead for clock control to win games, you can't count on scoring a late Td or fieldgoal every game like we have done for years.
 
Agreed with all that you said but I would add that it seems from the reports that Feeley has the edge on the deep game. I definitely think we need the QB who is more consistent on the deep ball that is a constant in Linehan's offense. If Frerotte turns up his game then bring him on but right now I would definitely say go with Feeley
 
Linehan will spread it no doubt. That is where ronnie brown comes in. Gonna be dumping it to Ronnie and going long with Ronnie.
 
adamprez2003 said:
Agreed with all that you said but I would add that it seems from the reports that Feeley has the edge on the deep game. I definitely think we need the QB who is more consistent on the deep ball that is a constant in Linehan's offense. If Frerotte turns up his game then bring him on but right now I would definitely say go with Feeley
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i think alot of fans on here are Feeley people. I sense when I hear reports, people say the little things that seem to pull Feeley's way. I will just trust whatever decision is made in the end. I think they could both play but AJ has to stop locking in on recievers!!!
 
Agua said:
Everything you said is true. It still doesn't address the matter I raised. If you get a pass happy offense, absent an upper tier QB, you're going to have a lot a of 3 & outs, inability to control the clock, and lots of INTs. I'm hoping for a balanced O, not a predictable run-run-pass-punt O.
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If you go long early and often, it doesnt neccesarily mean you are pass happy. With the RB's we have, I certainly do not think that will happen. I think we want to go long for obvious reasons but the idea will be to score quickly on big plays, go up on the points, play suprise attack D and stifle them, and then take it into the fourth quarter and bash them silly in the south florida sun.
 
finfan54 said:
i think alot of fans on here are Feeley people. I sense when I hear reports, people say the little things that seem to pull Feeley's way. I will just trust whatever decision is made in the end. I think they could both play but AJ has to stop locking in on recievers!!!
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From the reports of the last two days it seems AJ is getting intoa groove and birddogging less. Let's hope the progress continues
 
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