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I'm kind of left scratching my head a bit.

phinfan2003

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I just got in and saw the 4 guys that we signed and the 4 guys that we've released. I don't know much about these guys but what's with signing all of these Undrafted rookie free agents when there are so many veterans out there that could help us out? As much as I thought Edwards, Richard, and Shaw weren't game changers, I do feel more comfortable with them simply because they aren't rookies (like Jackson and Eckel) and undrafted ones at that. Furthermore, why did we need a TE? Our biggest needs are on the OL, DL, and secondary and we've kind gotten thinner at the DB position. I read where Jackson played both CB and S but the guy is an undrafted free agent!!!! Help me understand but please don't make these guys out to be stars because they aren't. This season is looking more and more bleak!
 
Maybe it was the whole "best players available" idea.
Who can tell at this point.
 
good point maybe tillman or shulters can play cb as well as safteys but think we will be ok on the o-line (better than last year i think)
D-line isn't that bad we have good depth
 
Most veterans have to be signed, they are free agents and contracts have to be negotiated. Waived rookie players are stuck with the deal they signed with the team that waived them if they are claimed. It takes longer to sign the vets.
 
Yea, I'm starting to question these moves. Unless Saban wants to bring a WR in to play CB like Belichick did with Troy Brown, it makes no sense. Plus, guard depth is frighteningly nonexistant.
 
JAGFISH said:
Most veterans have to be signed, they are free agents and contracts have to be negotiated. Waived rookie players are stuck with the deal they signed with the team that waived them if they are claimed. It takes long to sign the vets.

Good point.
 
Its hard to figure what's in Saban's head. My take so far is he has an amazing amount of confidence in his ability to plug in average defensive backs and make them play well. As for Heller he's an improvement over Holmes. The FB alot of people like. Shaw and Edwards left me scratching my head too. Who knows. Hopefully he knows what he's doing and it aint the ego taking over

here's a article on each

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-904fins,0,3612974.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front
 
Call me crazy, but the players that are signed are from the Panthers/Bucs/Jets/Pats. As everyone knows, we play the NFC south this year. Could it be more than a coinscidence that he signed players from teams that we will play this season.
 
pwn3dyo said:
Call me crazy, but the players that are signed are from the Panthers/Bucs/Jets/Pats. As everyone knows, we play the NFC south this year. Could it be more than a coinscidence that he signed players from teams that we will play this season.

OK your Crazy :lol:
 
pwn3dyo said:
Call me crazy, but the players that are signed are from the Panthers/Bucs/Jets/Pats. As everyone knows, we play the NFC south this year. Could it be more than a coinscidence that he signed players from teams that we will play this season.
i would love for that to be the reason. it would prove we have a coach who's not beneath being sneaky and shrewd. God knows we're going to need all the help we can get this year
 
Look - Saban said what separates the good teams from the great teams are the bottom half of the roster not the top half. You need depth that you can develop and build into starters that can come in and replace an injured guy and you don't miss a beat. Obviously the guys we had were not that good. We were all blinded by optimism because they wore the Aqua and Orange BUT if these guys were so good they would be starting and we would be rolling over teams. Let's give Saban and Mueller the time they need to retool this roster. I can see 75% of this roster new this time next year from when he took it over. We sucked last year - we won 4 games and everybody is crying because we are shaking up the roster - Sorry folks but we need it! We need to clean house and bring in some young hungry talent. Big deal we are short at DB - we cut Mario Edwards for god sakes - he sucks!! I'd rather have a young guy with potential that may have some growing pains then a guy who will get beat because he sucks and there is no growing to look forward to.
 
Rich22 said:
Look - Saban said what separates the good teams from the great teams are the bottom half of the roster not the top half. You need depth that you can develop and build into starters that can come in and replace an injured guy and you don't miss a beat. Obviously the guys we had were not that good. We were all blinded by optimism because they wore the Aqua and Orange BUT if these guys were so good they would be starting and we would be rolling over teams. Let's give Saban and Mueller the time they need to retool this roster. I can see 75% of this roster new this time next year from when he took it over. We sucked last year - we won 4 games and everybody is crying because we are shaking up the roster - Sorry folks but we need it! We need to clean house and bring in some young hungry talent. Big deal we are short at DB - we cut Mario Edwards for god sakes - he sucks!! I'd rather have a young guy with potential that may have some growing pains then a guy who will get beat because he sucks and there is no growing to look forward to.


Nice Post
 
pwn3dyo said:
Call me crazy, but the players that are signed are from the Panthers/Bucs/Jets/Pats. As everyone knows, we play the NFC south this year. Could it be more than a coinscidence that he signed players from teams that we will play this season.

That's interesting. Would tehse players have been around their teams long enough to know the playbooks?
 
Rich22 said:
Look - Saban said what separates the good teams from the great teams are the bottom half of the roster not the top half. You need depth that you can develop and build into starters that can come in and replace an injured guy and you don't miss a beat. Obviously the guys we had were not that good. We were all blinded by optimism because they wore the Aqua and Orange BUT if these guys were so good they would be starting and we would be rolling over teams. Let's give Saban and Mueller the time they need to retool this roster. I can see 75% of this roster new this time next year from when he took it over. We sucked last year - we won 4 games and everybody is crying because we are shaking up the roster - Sorry folks but we need it! We need to clean house and bring in some young hungry talent. Big deal we are short at DB - we cut Mario Edwards for god sakes - he sucks!! I'd rather have a young guy with potential that may have some growing pains then a guy who will get beat because he sucks and there is no growing to look forward to.

Granted, this is what I was hoping for before any moves were made. But then he brought in players like Kevin Carter, Keith Traylor Vonnie Holliday, Gus Frerotte, Lance Shulters and I thought he was looking to do something this year. But looking at our roster one week before our first game, it's going to be a very long year and that would be fine if we truly were going through a youth movement. I just dont see what Saban's game plan is. I think a big part of that is due to our salary cap but I think if he doesnt clarify the direction this team is taking next year this rebuilding process could be a lot longer than any of us are willing to give him
 
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