i'm sick of this hold out crap

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i think every college player can't negotiate anything. he plays for the team that drafted him, for the league minimum. then when he proves his worth he can try for more money. did fletcher not teach the front office anything!

 

[1crazy_finfan]

:up: I sooooo agree with you!!! :hi5:

 

[Oaklandraider]

Id have to agree!!

 

[MikeO]

i think every college player can't negotiate anything. he plays for the team that drafted him, for the league minimum. then when he proves his worth he can try for more money. did fletcher not teach the front office anything!

If you get your way then the CFL will become the biggest thing in this country. Everyone will be running there.

 

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If you get your way then the CFL will become the biggest thing in this country. Everyone will be running there.

Thats fine. Football isn't the game it used to be. Remember YA Tittle and Jack Lambert. They played hurt. Now days if they break a nail and they're on the IR.

I remember games where guys played with broken bones, today its all about money. Sure, they might run to the CFL for a while, but when the players start playing because they love the game instead of the weekly paycheck, they'll be back

 

[wyatt erp]

I assume you are talking about ronnie browns hold out. this is somthing thant nfl teams need to clean up . this free agency and the hig price athlete is why college football will run circles around the nfl unless they do something about this.

 

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I assume you are talking about ronnie browns hold out. this is somthing thant nfl teams need to clean up . this free agency and the hig price athlete is why college football will run circles around the nfl unless they do something about this.

Yes Ronnie was one of em, but i mean over-all. This is getting to be an every year activity and its gotta stop. Sooner or later the fan is gonna get stuck with the bill and football is gonna fall flat!:fire:

 

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An unsigned rookie can't be "holding out" since he has no contract and therefore has no obligation whatsoever to turn up untill he gets, what he feels is a reasonable offer. Don't paint them with the same brush player who is "holding out" eg Owens, Walker etc etc who is knowingly breaking the terms of the deal which he voluntarily signed

 

[wyatt erp]

i remember when denver drafted tatum bell rb from osu and tatum wnt to camp late and didn't endure himdelf to the coach or the vets and he got off to a rocky start and thats another disadvantage to coming to camp late.

 

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An unsigned rookie can't be "holding out" since he has no contract and therefore has no obligation whatsoever to turn up untill he gets, what he feels is a reasonable offer. Don't paint them with the same brush player who is "holding out" eg Owens, Walker etc etc who is knowingly breaking the terms of the deal which he voluntarily signed

as far as i'm concerned the rooks are even lower. trying to get what they think is best and haven't played a down'

ie. jamar fletcher

 

[UltraDol-Fan]

I agree, I think instead of league minimum, though, every pick in the draft should get a specific amound of money. For example, all first round picks get like $1 million contract and $1 million bonus. All second round picks get $800,000, etc. I just made up the amounts, but I thinks something like that would be better.

 

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I agree, I think instead of league minimum, though, every pick in the draft should get a specific amound of money. For example, all first round picks get like $1 million contract and $1 million bonus. All second round picks get $800,000, etc. I just made up the amounts, but I thinks something like that would be better.

I think thats an excellent plan. Although i don't think i'd give a rook a million dollars until he proved himself. Don't you think it would be better to offer a million as an incentive. Set some goals they have to meet, if they do it, show em the money!

 

[MikeO]

Thats fine. Football isn't the game it used to be. Remember YA Tittle and Jack Lambert. They played hurt. Now days if they break a nail and they're on the IR.

I remember games where guys played with broken bones, today its all about money. Sure, they might run to the CFL for a while, but when the players start playing because they love the game instead of the weekly paycheck, they'll be back

nobody plays becuase they love the game. They all play for the money. What world do you live in???!

 

[MikeO]

I think thats an excellent plan. Although i don't think i'd give a rook a million dollars until he proved himself. Don't you think it would be better to offer a million as an incentive. Set some goals they have to meet, if they do it, show em the money!

If you aren't going to give rookie's a stinkin $1 mill then the legaue will dry up and people aren't going to be playing NFL football.

And incentive based contracts will never work in any sport. Why should they? How about only paying Tom Cruise $500 for making a movie. If the movie makes money then he can earn up to $100 mill for that movie. Think Tom Cruise will go through the time and trouble of shooting a movie??! Yeah right, I think not!

 

[DonShula84]

i think every college player can't negotiate anything. he plays for the team that drafted him, for the league minimum. then when he proves his worth he can try for more money. did fletcher not teach the front office anything!

Well that isnt how it works. For every Fletcher there is a McMichael who greatly outplays his rookie contract. You pay for there potential, we scouted these players for months, interviewed and worked them out. We didnt draft them without having some belief that they'd work out. Besides, it is the guaranteed money that matters, not the big number on the contract. Also think about much money the Dolphins are going to make off Ronnie Brown. He deserves to be payed for that alone