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I've come to the conclusion that this offseason will be all about offense.

We need an influx of talent on both sides of the ball, but we can't do it all in one offseason. I think the powers that be would rather give up 30+ points per game with a bush league defense than stunt the growth of a young quarterback.

I think that Matt Ryan will be the 1st pick in the draft. I think Parcells would have to be absolutely blown away with an offer to pass on Ryan.

This isn't a vote against Beck, or giving up on Beck. This is simply based on the fact that QB is the most important position on the team. You CANNOT win without a good QB, and you can't have too many good QB's on your roster. We can't risk letting a franchise QB slip through our hands again because we don't know who will be available next year or in which slot we'll be drafting.

We will draft Ryan and we will sign a veteran free agent. There will be an open QB competition in training camp and the best man will win.

If it turns out that we ultimately end up with two franchise QB's on the roster, that's a very good problem to have, and one of them will be traded for a bushel of draft picks in a year or two.

As for free agency, we won't be signing any big name defensive players. We'll focus our efforts on guys like Flozell Adams and Alan Faneca. Parcells will trust veteran lineman to protect his young quarterbacks.
Keyshawn will come out of retirement, and we will also draft a WR or receiving TE with one of our 2nd round picks.

If you're going to develop a young QB, you have to protect him and you have to surround him with the right weapons to be successful.

For defense, this year, I see alot more guys like Lehan being signed. Serviceable players with upside, but guys who won't break the bank.

Next offseason, we spend our draft picks and cap room addressing the defense, and then we will be in good shape to make a playoff run again.

Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong. :)
 
I've come to the conclusion that this offseason will be all about offense.

We need an influx of talent on both sides of the ball, but we can't do it all in one offseason. I think the powers that be would rather give up 30+ points per game with a bush league defense than stunt the growth of a young quarterback.

I think that Matt Ryan will be the 1st pick in the draft. I think Parcells would have to be absolutely blown away with an offer to pass on Ryan.

This isn't a vote against Beck, or giving up on Beck. This is simply based on the fact that QB is the most important position on the team. You CANNOT win without a good QB, and you can't have too many good QB's on your roster. We can't risk letting a franchise QB slip through our hands again because we don't know who will be available next year or in which slot we'll be drafting.

We will draft Ryan and we will sign a veteran free agent. There will be an open QB competition in training camp and the best man will win.

If it turns out that we ultimately end up with two franchise QB's on the roster, that's a very good problem to have, and one of them will be traded for a bushel of draft picks in a year or two.

As for free agency, we won't be signing any big name defensive players. We'll focus our efforts on guys like Flozell Adams and Alan Faneca. Parcells will trust veteran lineman to protect his young quarterbacks.
Keyshawn will come out of retirement, and we will also draft a WR or receiving TE with one of our 2nd round picks.

If you're going to develop a young QB, you have to protect him and you have to surround him with the right weapons to be successful.

For defense, this year, I see alot more guys like Lehan being signed. Serviceable players with upside, but guys who won't break the bank.

Next offseason, we spend our draft picks and cap room addressing the defense, and then we will be in good shape to make a playoff run again.

Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong. :)

I doubt Ryan will be the first pick.He showed me,by not throwing,that he wasn't sure of himself.He is really starting to raise my eyebrow.I was all for us drafting this guy 2 weeks ago.But,he hasnt done nothing,except the Skills Competion,but even though he wont 1,he still hasn't impressed me,or even solidified he was the number 1 QB.A QB in the NFL has to be confident,strong,and belief in his abilities,and he really fumbled the ball with me so far...
 
So we are going to try and outscore everybody next year? That strategy didn't work too well last year when our defense was about as useful as Ray Lucas was talented.

I think you'll see an effort to improve the offensive and defensive lines with the focus more on defense.
 
the fact that matt ryan didn't throw at the combine means nothing. the top quarterback never throws.
 
So you think that our FO is going to pass up on all the incredible talent that is coming out defensively to go after a mediocre QB

I like Marty's take

cnc66 said:
Ryan has talked to Phins .... and then he said, "wadda ya mean Beck is better.. I think you should waste your pick and overpay me anyway."

:lol:
 
I've come to the conclusion that this offseason will be all about offense.

We need an influx of talent on both sides of the ball, but we can't do it all in one offseason. I think the powers that be would rather give up 30+ points per game with a bush league defense than stunt the growth of a young quarterback.

I think that Matt Ryan will be the 1st pick in the draft. I think Parcells would have to be absolutely blown away with an offer to pass on Ryan.

This isn't a vote against Beck, or giving up on Beck. This is simply based on the fact that QB is the most important position on the team. You CANNOT win without a good QB, and you can't have too many good QB's on your roster. We can't risk letting a franchise QB slip through our hands again because we don't know who will be available next year or in which slot we'll be drafting.

We will draft Ryan and we will sign a veteran free agent. There will be an open QB competition in training camp and the best man will win.

If it turns out that we ultimately end up with two franchise QB's on the roster, that's a very good problem to have, and one of them will be traded for a bushel of draft picks in a year or two.

As for free agency, we won't be signing any big name defensive players. We'll focus our efforts on guys like Flozell Adams and Alan Faneca. Parcells will trust veteran lineman to protect his young quarterbacks.
Keyshawn will come out of retirement, and we will also draft a WR or receiving TE with one of our 2nd round picks.

If you're going to develop a young QB, you have to protect him and you have to surround him with the right weapons to be successful.

For defense, this year, I see alot more guys like Lehan being signed. Serviceable players with upside, but guys who won't break the bank.

Next offseason, we spend our draft picks and cap room addressing the defense, and then we will be in good shape to make a playoff run again.

Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong. :)

Last year JaMarcus Russell got a contract that included 31.5 million dollars guaranteed.
Ask yourself this: Is Matt Ryan worth that much money? If we draft Ryan with the #1 overall pick Parcells needs to quit. For all the flack that Cam got last year for drafting Ginn at #9, this would be a much bigger stretch.
 
So we are going to try and outscore everybody next year? That strategy didn't work too well last year when our defense was about as useful as Ray Lucas was talented.

I think you'll see an effort to improve the offensive and defensive lines with the focus more on defense.

I never said that, don't put words in my mouth.

Next year is obviously a rebuilding year, and the team is trying to develop a young quarterback. What good does it do you to use your free agency budget and your draft picks to build up a defense to stop the other team if your offensive line is a turnstile that allows blitz happy defenses to tee off on your young quarterback and give him David Carr syndrome.

QB is the most important position and Parcells and co. know this. I think they're going to use all of thier resources to protect him so he has time to make the right decisions in the pocket, and put playmakers around him that will allow him to be successful. (Whether it be Beck or Ryan)
 
So you think that our FO is going to pass up on all the incredible talent that is coming out defensively to go after a mediocre QB

Matt Ryan is the top rated player on alot of the "experts" draft boards.

He's been compared to Drew Bledsoe coming out of college. Mel Kiper rates him about the same as he rated Ben Rothleisberger and Phillip Rivers coming out.

Again, nothing else you do matters if you don't have a QB. How many years did we have a top 5 defense AND Ricky Williams running all over everyone and still couldn't win a playoff game?
We HAVE to solve the QB problem before we can solve any of the other problems.

I'm not saying that I am sold on Ryan....I haven't watched any of his games or anything....I'm just reading the tea leaves and making an educated guess as to what the front office will do....based on Parcells past tendencies, the talent available in FA and the draft, and our team needs.


Don't confuse what you want the team to do with what they're likely to actually do.
 
Last year JaMarcus Russell got a contract that included 31.5 million dollars guaranteed.
Ask yourself this: Is Matt Ryan worth that much money? If we draft Ryan with the #1 overall pick Parcells needs to quit. For all the flack that Cam got last year for drafting Ginn at #9, this would be a much bigger stretch.

No rookie is worth that much money. Not a single one. That's a problem with the current CBA that needs to be worked out.

That being said, you never pass up a chance to take a franchise QB.
What's more ridiculous, guaranteeing $30M+ to your future quarterback, or taking Chris Long with that pick and giving him the $30M+ in guaranteed money? That's more money than Dwight Freeney got

I doubt many would consider it a stretch to take Ryan at #1 overall....most of the pundits and prognosticators think that's exactly where Ryan will be drafted....by either us or our trade partner.

How many of you wouldn't turn back the clock (if you could) and trade whatever you had to back in 2004 to get Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, or Ben Rothleisberger?
Or go back two years and give up whatever you had to in order to get Matt Leinart or Jay Cutler?

How much would that have changed the trajectory of our franchise?

Nothing else matters if you don't have a QB.
 
Why would we give anything to go back and get Matt Leinart or Jay Cutler? Beck IMO will be at least as fair as either of them. They hav enot shown much to this point and have one more year than Beck so far.
 
I've come to the conclusion that this offseason will be all about offense.

We need an influx of talent on both sides of the ball, but we can't do it all in one offseason. I think the powers that be would rather give up 30+ points per game with a bush league defense than stunt the growth of a young quarterback.

I think that Matt Ryan will be the 1st pick in the draft. I think Parcells would have to be absolutely blown away with an offer to pass on Ryan.

This isn't a vote against Beck, or giving up on Beck. This is simply based on the fact that QB is the most important position on the team. You CANNOT win without a good QB, and you can't have too many good QB's on your roster. We can't risk letting a franchise QB slip through our hands again because we don't know who will be available next year or in which slot we'll be drafting.

We will draft Ryan and we will sign a veteran free agent. There will be an open QB competition in training camp and the best man will win.

If it turns out that we ultimately end up with two franchise QB's on the roster, that's a very good problem to have, and one of them will be traded for a bushel of draft picks in a year or two.

As for free agency, we won't be signing any big name defensive players. We'll focus our efforts on guys like Flozell Adams and Alan Faneca. Parcells will trust veteran lineman to protect his young quarterbacks.
Keyshawn will come out of retirement, and we will also draft a WR or receiving TE with one of our 2nd round picks.

If you're going to develop a young QB, you have to protect him and you have to surround him with the right weapons to be successful.

For defense, this year, I see alot more guys like Lehan being signed. Serviceable players with upside, but guys who won't break the bank.

Next offseason, we spend our draft picks and cap room addressing the defense, and then we will be in good shape to make a playoff run again.

Of course this is just my opinion, I could be wrong. :)

The Pick will not be Ryan..period there are 3 playmakers along the line of scrimmage that we will get either one of the Long brothers or as of late im thinking that Gholston might be a reach(but will work out in the long run) pick..now while i agree that adding vets along the line will help but we will get either Adams or Faneca...not both...yes Keyshawn will probably return for us for a year or two... the problem i have with this thread is you say that we need to put weapons around Ryan but why cant Beck Flourish with the same protection and the same weapons? why would we expend a pick for 2 or 3 sure players for yet another risk at the QB position or rather why would you give a New QB the items(which we thoroughly need) but not Beck you said you dont want to vote against beck or give up on him so your post is really contradictory
 
Matt Ryan is the top rated player on alot of the "experts" draft boards.

He's been compared to Drew Bledsoe coming out of college. Mel Kiper rates him about the same as he rated Ben Rothleisberger and Phillip Rivers coming out.

Again, nothing else you do matters if you don't have a QB. How many years did we have a top 5 defense AND Ricky Williams running all over everyone and still couldn't win a playoff game?
We HAVE to solve the QB problem before we can solve any of the other problems.

I'm not saying that I am sold on Ryan....I haven't watched any of his games or anything....I'm just reading the tea leaves and making an educated guess as to what the front office will do....based on Parcells past tendencies, the talent available in FAt and the draft, and our team needs.


Don't confuse what you want the team to do with what they're likely to actually do.

Guess what. I have seen Ryan.

The "Experts" have made him the token QB this year. Somebody has to be the highest rated QB..That Absoluely does NOT make him a franchise QB..and in fact I still say Beck has as good a chance as Ryan...

So, you take Ryan and he pans out to be John Beck Part II...and he still doesnt have the supporting cast around him

Unless Ryan learns how to Tackle, Cover, Block or Catch......we will pass on him
 
the fact that matt ryan didn't throw at the combine means nothing. the top quarterback never throws.

That is true, but his decision to not throw increases the risk teams take. You should throw at an unfamiliar environment instead of at your chosen field. My argument is that as long as QBs choose not to throw at the combine teams should not use the 1st pick on a QB. Punish the increased risk to the team.
 
What I'm still wondering is how Matt Ryan leaped frog Brian Brohm to become the top rated QB in the drafted.
 
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