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We never signed Pennington and let Henne start from the start? Think of how far along he would be right now basing this on is improvement this pre-season. He would really be clicking with these receivers, more of a leader, and probably would have picked up this new offense a lot quicker.
Having Pennington set the whole team back by two years.
 
I know right? We could be going for a 7-9 4peat. Not sure how different things would have been, David Lee was still there.

I wouldn't trade that year for anything. Call it luck, call it an easy schedule, say we won because Brady went down, say we won because we had a gimmicky offense, we didn't. We won because Chad Pennington absolutely balled that year. Him beating the Jests on their turf to win the East was a great moment for him, and a great moment for the Fins.
 
joeharley666 said:
We never signed Pennington and let Henne start from the start? Think of how far along he would be right now basing this on is improvement this pre-season. He would really be clicking with these receivers, more of a leader, and probably would have picked up this new offense a lot quicker.
Having Pennington set the whole team back by two years.
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How does letting Henne start that year make him pick up this new offensive scheme quicker this year?

I also thought it was pretty clear Henne was bad in Henning's scheme. An extra year would have done nothing to make him better as he digressed almost by the game.

If anything Henne should be lucky Pennington started. Henne would have been gone this last offseason had he started and his career as a backup would have been solidified. The Phins most likely would have either traded for Orton or gotten Mallet in the draft and Henne would have been an afterthought.

Sitting that year in essence gave him an extra year in Miami and he seems to be fitting in alot better with this new scheme.

Think of it this way, if he succeeds in this new scheme him starting in 08 would have actually set this team back alot longer and further

As far as leadership goes? Well thank the lockout for that. Had it not been for the lockout he would have never shown the qualities he had with arranging practices and workouts. What I mean is, if there was no lockout the team would have never got to see that side of him, because they would have all been mandatory and team organized workouts
 
Knowing what we know of this regime's antics....Henne would have been booted off this team. I would love to say that he would be far along, but he would have been handcuffed like crazy by Henning, and then shoed aside for some other loser QB. It was to Henne's benefit that he got to sit behind Pennington, except that Henne had to deal with the incumbent ignoramos Henning trying to mold him into a noodle-arm (which he is definitely not).

After one year of sitting behind the NFL's most efficient passer in history, playing almost 2 full seasons under a senile OC, and now being in the position to be the one in charge of implementing a new offensive scheme; I think (and freaking hope) Henne is ready to lead this team.

It hard to say, but, if GB put Aaron Rodgers in his rookie year, I doubt he would have been the monster QB became from sitting behind Favre for years. Like I said it is hard to say anything about Rodgers because he's so fluid out there.
 
mialuv13 said:
Knowing what we know of this regime's antics....Henne would have been booted off this team. I would love to say that he would be far along, but he would have been handcuffed like crazy by Henning, and then shoed aside for some other loser QB. It was to Henne's benefit that he got to sit behind Pennington, except that Henne had to deal with the incumbent ignoramos Henning trying to mold him into a noodle-arm (which he is definitely not).

After one year of sitting behind the NFL's most efficient passer in history, playing almost 2 full seasons under a senile OC, and now being in the position to be the one in charge of implementing a new offensive scheme; I think (and freaking hope) Henne is ready to lead this team.

It hard to say, but, if GB put Aaron Rodgers in his rookie year, I doubt he would have been the monster QB became from sitting behind Favre for years. Like I said it is hard to say anything about Rodgers because he's so fluid out there.
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Disagree about Rodgers. He still would have been great. To my knowledge Favre really didn't teach Rodgers. I believe he was quotes as saying something like "I had to learn on my own, so does he. Nobody taught me"

Favre was very anti-mentor to Rodgers. Atleast at first

I firmly believe the only experience that truly develops a QB is playing the game. Not sitting on the bench learning and watching. If so Henne would have understood what a "touch pass" was
 
Whoopeee .. a NEW Excuse ... #999999999999999999 & counting. 3 years of poop flinging & that's the reason?

Just hoping Henne can play in real games ... even kinda like he did in preseason games ... and actually WIN a couple games.
 
That is a good point GRYPHONK. Henne should have been able to vicariously pick up Pennington's touch pass by sitting and watching, but his actual playing never showed it.

As for Rodgers for some reason I like to think that he was mentored by Farve, but I do recall hearing Rodgers talking about the sitting and waiting sometime around the Super Bowl. He actually had nothing good to say about Farve being in front of him. Rodgers is an outlier in QB progress because his timeline in the NFL was so different than some of the great QB's right now.

I guess my only problem with putting Henne in his rookie year was that this FO wouldn't have given Henne a chance if he didn't play well enough in the first few years. They were so excited to bench Henne last year, and I doubt that it would have been any different if Henne played bad his first couple of years and there was a viable #2 on the team.

Who knows. I still think that letting Henne take control of this offense in his 4th season is the best thing that could have happened. It's normally the time when QB's either set themselves apart for being great, or just set themselves apart right off their team.
 
I have to disagree. IF Pennignton did not sufffer the injuries he did I think this team would be in far better shape then it is right now. Not saying Henne is not going to do good this year but barring injuries he had, Pennington was pretty dam good folks.
 
mialuv13 said:
That is a good point GRYPHONK. Henne should have been able to vicariously pick up Pennington's touch pass by sitting and watching, but his actual playing never showed it.

As for Rodgers for some reason I like to think that he was mentored by Farve, but I do recall hearing Rodgers talking about the sitting and waiting sometime around the Super Bowl. He actually had nothing good to say about Farve being in front of him. Rodgers is an outlier in QB progress because his timeline in the NFL was so different than some of the great QB's right now.

I guess my only problem with putting Henne in his rookie year was that this FO wouldn't have given Henne a chance if he didn't play well enough in the first few years. They were so excited to bench Henne last year, and I doubt that it would have been any different if Henne played bad his first couple of years and there was a viable #2 on the team.

Who knows. I still think that letting Henne take control of this offense in his 4th season is the best thing that could have happened. It's normally the time when QB's either set themselves apart for being great, or just set themselves apart right off their team.
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Agreed.

This is and should be his make or break year. I am one of the biggest Henne haters, but I am willing to see how this season plays out in a system that many claim fits his strengths.

At the very least we will see if we have a Kyle Orton, a Ryan Leaf or a Joe Flacco on our team in this system with Henne
 
UHHS said:
I have to disagree. IF Pennignton did not sufffer the injuries he did I think this team would be in far better shape then it is right now. Not saying Henne is not going to do good this year but barring injuries he had, Pennington was pretty dam good folks.
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The thing Penny gave this team that Henne did not ever give was the belief that the offense could win a game. I don't feel the defense ever felt that way with henne.

I mean, IMO it was apparent when Marshall and the offense starting ripping the coaching and play calling. Then in that same week, Penny was announced the starter and all of a sudden Marshall is saying the Phins were gonna be in the Playoffs.

Hopefully Henne can earn that respect.
 
chad was a 4 year starter at michigan. all rookies get pounded but henne was prepared to go day one.

i would have played him as a rookie.
 
I disagree for the most part. He would be another year experienced and matured with game preparation, reading defenses, reading different blitz packages and might have been a clearer mind set going into last year. I agree that Henning was still suffocating him but maybe he still matures in those area's a lot quicker and be further along this year.
 
nah...I think the Fins really needed that Playoff sputter. It makes for a not so disappointing decade, I would never want to replace a record setting comeback for a team...from 1-15 to 11-5 was just FINominal
 
I wish Chad P wasn't so damn injury prone. With him we're a playoff team or damn close every year. That guy was really really good.
 
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