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Inside the numbers - Ryan Tannehill's last 15 starts

2 arguments I can't stand:

1. Why isn't the all mighty Matt Moore starting for another team.
2. Tannehill may be struggling but Moore is not the answer.

These arguments make no sense and only show posters are not paying attention. If Ryan Tannehill sucks, and he has been sucking, then saying we have a better chance to win with Moore isn't a stretch. It's not saying Moore is a future hall of famer but just batter than a bad QB. Not that hard to understand. As for argument 2, well those guys are right Moore is not the answer. Captain obvious much? But when do we realize Tannehill is not the answer either and play the QB who gives us the best chance to win in 2014?

Now I'm not a Tannehill hater, in fact I'm holding out hope that he turns things around and becomes a good to great QB. Just drives me nuts how quickly fans discount the possibility that Matt Moore may be better. I hope he's not but the last 9 games of 2011 was best the Miami Dolphins offense has looked in years. Anyone who denies that is as blind as a bat because it's a fact that IMO anyone who disputes would look pretty stupid. Bottom line is I'm sure guys like WV and Enigmatics would gladly admit they were wrong if Tannehill was to turn this around and become a good to great QB because after all being right about what we post on a silly fan message board isn't all that important (not really important at all) but I think there points are valid. To me we score more points with Moore at QB but probably suffer from more dumb plays. Not sure how that would come out in the wash but at least it would be fun to watch. This offense, under Ryan Tannehill, has been fun to watch like 3 times total. After all watching an offense consistently fall short of the league average in scoring isn't all that fun.
 
dbeals05 said:
Heres some numbers for the Matt Moore people.

Games played 38, yards 5,321, comp % 58.9, tds 33, int 28, qbr 79.3

Games played 32, yards 7626, comp % 59.5, tds 39, int 32, qbr 78.9

These are career stats for both qbs, pretty similar. If Tannehill has horrible stats then the same can be said for Moore. Grass isn't always greener on the other side. How about for a change, we support our QB no matter who it is, stop posting worthless stats like it matters and focus and rooting and cheering for our team. Win or lose im gonna support everyone on our roster and i wish you people would do the same.
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Great post!!! Too bad WV and the guy who is too lazy type out words like "you" and "are" will completely ignore it or make excuses like they say people do for Tannehill. Hypocrisy???
 
15 starts. Hmmmm? If I'm not mistaken... That would start w/ week 3 of the 2013 season.

Who, I wonder, did Miami beat in week 2 last yr? Oh, yeah... it was (drumroll please) Melty ice and the canaries.
 
WVDolphan said:
Over Tannehill's last 15 starts the Miami Dolphins have a record of 6-9.

The Miami Dolphins have scored 30 points twice in the last 15 games. This ratio is actually higher than Tannehill's career clip. The Dolphins only eclipsed 30 points once in the 2013 season, in a 34-28 win @ Pittsburgh.

The Miami Dolphins lost ONE game last year when the team managed to score at least 22 points. This was a 26-23 loss to Baltimore in Miami. On every other occasion that the Dolphins managed to score at least 22 points, they were victorious in 2013.

Conversely, the Dolphins failed to win any games in which they did not score at least 22 points. However, the defense only yielded a 30 point game to one opponent in 2013, a 38-17 loss @ New Orleans, to an explosive Saints offense in their dome.

The Dolphins defense also held the opponent to 23 points or less in a whopping 13 of 16 games last season. They managed to win one game when actually yielding more than 23 points(@ Pittsburgh). The median PPG per team in the NFL last season was 24.1. The average would be somewhat higher thanks to Denver being a huge outlier.

All of this demonstrates how close a team is from 8 wins and 12 wins. Had the Dolphins been able to manage a few more points per game, they likely win several more games.

The Dolphins managed TWO separate 3 game win steaks last season in a season that saw only 8 wins. Conversely, the Phins suffered a 4 game losing streak.

Over the past 15 games, Ryan Tannehill's individual stats which lead the Phins to their 6-9 record over that span are as follows..................

562 attempts
333 completions
59.2% completion rate

3505 Yards
23 TDs
17 INTs

This comes to a QB rating over a 15 game span of 78.48 :baghead:

That is horrible play over a span of games that basically equals a full season. It is certainly not the caliber of play that will get things done. It is the kind of play that leads to 6 and 7 win seasons.

It is time to give Matt Moore the opportunity he deserves. If Moore can get this team scoring 24 points on a consistent basis, the Phins have the type of team that can win 10+ games.
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Dion Sims, Mike Wallace and Brian Hartline all make plays there supposed to Tannehill has 6 tds to one pick if everything else stays the same... And u are not making this post, or all hr other Tannehill threads... Give the kid and offense some time
 
utahphinsfan said:
15 starts. Hmmmm? If I'm not mistaken... That would start w/ week 3 of the 2013 season.

Who, I wonder, did Miami beat in week 2 last yr? Oh, yeah... it was (drumroll please) Melty ice and the canaries.
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Ya he had to leave that one out now didn't he??? Can we please ban this guy for being nothing more than a pot stirring spam artist???Criticize tanny, lord knows he deserves it. However this is past ridiculous.
 
utahphinsfan said:
15 starts. Hmmmm? If I'm not mistaken... That would start w/ week 3 of the 2013 season.

Who, I wonder, did Miami beat in week 2 last yr? Oh, yeah... it was (drumroll please) Melty ice and the canaries.
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Sometimes I get the impression that posters on this site think Tannehill is better than Matt Ryan and Andy Dalton. That really isn't true is it?
 
DolfanISS said:
2 arguments I can't stand:

1. Why isn't the all mighty Matt Moore starting for another team.
2. Tannehill may be struggling but Moore is not the answer.

These arguments make no sense and only show posters are not paying attention. If Ryan Tannehill sucks, and he has been sucking, then saying we have a better chance to win with Moore isn't a stretch. It's not saying Moore is a future hall of famer but just batter than a bad QB. Not that hard to understand. As for argument 2, well those guys are right Moore is not the answer. Captain obvious much? But when do we realize Tannehill is not the answer either and play the QB who gives us the best chance to win in 2014?

Now I'm not a Tannehill hater, in fact I'm holding out hope that he turns things around and becomes a good to great QB. Just drives me nuts how quickly fans discount the possibility that Matt Moore may be better. I hope he's not but the last 9 games of 2011 was best the Miami Dolphins offense has looked in years. Anyone who denies that is as blind as a bat because it's a fact that IMO anyone who disputes would look pretty stupid. Bottom line is I'm sure guys like WV and Enigmatics would gladly admit they were wrong if Tannehill was to turn this around and become a good to great QB because after all being right about what we post on a silly fan message board isn't all that important (not really important at all) but I think there points are valid. To me we score more points with Moore at QB but probably suffer from more dumb plays. Not sure how that would come out in the wash but at least it would be fun to watch. This offense, under Ryan Tannehill, has been fun to watch like 3 times total. After all watching an offense consistently fall short of the league average in scoring isn't all that fun.
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I was as excited as any when Tanny went up to Pittsburgh and played his butt off, then followed it up with a big performance vs. NE the following week. I even posted on this site how it was his coming out party and that my doubts had been finally silenced. Unfortunately I took the bait and he sh*t himself in two extremely important games with playoffs on the line to end the season vs. the lowly Bills and Jets.

I just wanted to win regardless of who's in there. I know that Moore has the balls and talent to attack teams down the field. You're absolutely right that our offense clicked like we haven't seen in a while once he hit his stride as our starter in 2011. With his game though comes an occasional stupid pick. That's what you get with QB's who like to attack. Moore was also very vocal and showed a competitive fire that I haven't seen in a Dolphins QB for a long time, things I used to love about Marino. You could see it on the field and how his teammates responded to him.
 
WVDolphan said:
Over Tannehill's last 15 starts the Miami Dolphins have a record of 6-9.

The Miami Dolphins have scored 30 points twice in the last 15 games. This ratio is actually higher than Tannehill's career clip. The Dolphins only eclipsed 30 points once in the 2013 season, in a 34-28 win @ Pittsburgh.

The Miami Dolphins lost ONE game last year when the team managed to score at least 22 points. This was a 26-23 loss to Baltimore in Miami. On every other occasion that the Dolphins managed to score at least 22 points, they were victorious in 2013.

Conversely, the Dolphins failed to win any games in which they did not score at least 22 points. However, the defense only yielded a 30 point game to one opponent in 2013, a 38-17 loss @ New Orleans, to an explosive Saints offense in their dome.

The Dolphins defense also held the opponent to 23 points or less in a whopping 13 of 16 games last season. They managed to win one game when actually yielding more than 23 points(@ Pittsburgh). The median PPG per team in the NFL last season was 24.1. The average would be somewhat higher thanks to Denver being a huge outlier.

All of this demonstrates how close a team is from 8 wins and 12 wins. Had the Dolphins been able to manage a few more points per game, they likely win several more games.

The Dolphins managed TWO separate 3 game win steaks last season in a season that saw only 8 wins. Conversely, the Phins suffered a 4 game losing streak.

Over the past 15 games, Ryan Tannehill's individual stats which lead the Phins to their 6-9 record over that span are as follows..................

562 attempts
333 completions
59.2% completion rate

3505 Yards
23 TDs
17 INTs

This comes to a QB rating over a 15 game span of 78.48 :baghead:

That is horrible play over a span of games that basically equals a full season. It is certainly not the caliber of play that will get things done. It is the kind of play that leads to 6 and 7 win seasons.

It is time to give Matt Moore the opportunity he deserves. If Moore can get this team scoring 24 points on a consistent basis, the Phins have the type of team that can win 10+ games.
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what about RG3 #'s the last 15 starts and Lucks???

yeah i will wait.
 
AZStryker said:
Ya he had to leave that one out now didn't he??? Can we please ban this guy for being nothing more than a pot stirring spam artist???Criticize tanny, lord knows he deserves it. However this is past ridiculous.
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If Mike Wallace wasn't making plays Tannehill wouldn't have ****?
 
If Matt Moore was a good QB, any other NFL team would have signed him when they had the chance. But they didnt, because he sucks.
Get Real.
 
AZStryker said:
Ya he had to leave that one out now didn't he??? Can we please ban this guy for being nothing more than a pot stirring spam artist???Criticize tanny, lord knows he deserves it. However this is past ridiculous.
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There must be nothing else to do in Deliverance country. Then, WV (the state) is downwind from potsburgh.

DolfanISS said:
Sometimes I get the impression that posters on this site think Tannehill is better than Matt Ryan and Andy Dalton. That really isn't true is it?
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Tannehill is what he is. I'm not ready not name him ruler of the universe nor pull the plug on the Joe & Ryan show.
 
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