Interesting blurbs about Philbin.

[Wildbill3]

Don't get me wrong I like the coach, and generally like his approach. However, some things were mentioned about him last year, and are being repeated this year, that do make me pause and question aspects of his personality. Going over this stuff, two things come to mind, first, if you're a coach and you're winning, it doesn't really matter, players will buy in. But on the other side of the coin, if you're losing, things can come apart a lot faster if you're a guy who likes to tighten the screws.

### Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland said Joe Philbin “is a joy to be around and… doesn’t have a whole lot of highs and lows, which I love.” But he also told his team he wants that personality from them. Philbin was happy when Caleb Sturgis did not openly celebrate his 58-year field goal against Jacksonville.
So essentially Philbin wants players who are quiet conformists who say nothing controversial or discuss hot-button issues outside of football, and aren’t too outwardly emotional.
Players generally like him, but some wish he was more tolerant of colorful personalities or those who speak candidly. One Dolphins player on offense said a lot of players were fined last season for assorted minor violations.

“If you’re just 30 seconds early to a meeting, he will point at his watch,” the player said. Among his other rules: Shoes must be tied at all times; players must wear Dolphins gear in the facility and the locker-room must be clean. “What upsets him is if they have to go over the same stuff twice with you.”

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy​

### Dolphins coach Joe Philbin is a good and decent man, but his secretive style with the media can be puzzling at times.
Among many examples: In a profile on Richie Incognito, NFL.com's Jeff Darlington noted how Philbin began a meeting with his players by showing tape of Houston’s Antonio Smith swinging a helmet at Incognito during their preseason game and praising Incognito for not retaliating.
But when Philbin was asked by reporters if Incognito handled the situation the right way, Philbin responded: “That’s not for me to judge.” So why wouldn’t Philbin credit his player publicly? What does withholding public praise accomplish?
Philbin's secretive nature goes well beyond his refusal to publicly acknowledge or discuss any player who doesn't practice on a particular day.
Philbin wouldn't reveal his backup center this week because he suggested it would put the team at a competitive disadvantage. OK then. Nor would he say with whom he consults before deciding whether to throw a challenge flag. Nobody likes to hear the media -- the conduit for the fans -- complain, and this part of the weekly media column is certainly not intended as such.
(Dolphins writers have enough to write about regardless of what Philbin says or does not say.)

It's more of a statement of the paranoia in sports today --- with Philbin displaying more of that than many coaches. But it's odd coming from an organization where the owner (Stephen Ross) has insisted the team must be more transparent, a philosophy not shared by his coach

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[uk_dolfan]

I like a coach who takes a hard line and gives little away to the media, old habits from football that I apply to the NFL. #

Never did BB in New England any harm

 

[Wildbill3]

I like a coach who takes a hard line and gives little away to the media, old habits from football that I apply to the NFL. #

Never did BB in New England any harm

well before Brady came along, BB career was nothing special as a head coach. So, if you luck into the right players and win, I think your personality as a coach is often overlooked.

 

[Daytona Fin]

Meh, i think every coach has quirks or does certain things that isn't on the straight and narrow. As far as being coy sometimes, i have no problems with it. In this day and age of social media and everything being so open to the public , i think philbin should try and be secretive if it means he can get any little advantage by doing it. I like that he is trying to find any and every way to stay one step ahead of the field.

 

[Shouright]

If this is all they have on him at this point, we're in good shape IMO.

 

[Hayden Fox]

Don't get me wrong I like the coach, and generally like his approach. However, some things were mentioned about him last year, and are being repeated this year, that do make me pause and question aspects of his personality. Going over this stuff, two things come to mind, first, if you're a coach and you're winning, it doesn't really matter, players will buy in. But on the other side of the coin, if you're losing, things can come apart a lot faster if you're a guy who likes to tighten the screws.

Where I agree so much with is when you say if the team wins...it will not matter....but if they lose, it could come apart FAST. I was thinking the same thing when I read these quotes a bit ago. It so vital Miami has some success early.

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I think he is good football coach, but success is needed so players continue to buy in.

 

[lynxdolfan]

So he wants his players to be on time, neat and clean, and not give the other team bulletin board material...ok... :rolleyes2:

 

[jlfin]

In other words, approach the game as your job. I'm sure if they actually win the division or playoff game, you will see Philbin himself cut loose and the locker room will be pandemonium. Philbin just doesn't want the players to lose focus.

 

[Wildbill3]

So he wants his players to be on time, neat and clean, and not give the other team bulletin board material...ok... :rolleyes2:

I think you're taking a simplistic way of looking at this. It's valuable insight, that actually gives plausible reasons why certain events with this team went down like they did. Probably including the ouster of last years leadership council, and quite possibly WHY jake long didnt' take more money to stay in Miami.

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In other words, approach the game as your job. I'm sure if they actually win the division or playoff game, you will see Philbin himself cut loose and the locker room will be pandemonium. Philbin just doesn't want the players to lose focus.

maybe. I'd like to think it's all a moot point when we start winning.

 

[Shouright]

Where I agree so much with is when you say if the team wins...it will not matter....but if they lose, it could come apart FAST. I was thinking the same thing when I read these quotes a bit ago. It so vital Miami has some success early.

I think he is good football coach, but success is needed so players continue to buy in.

This is true for any first-time head coach, no matter how he acts, since he has no past track record that would, in itself, make the players buy in. It's not like we hired Bill Cowher here.

 

[spiketex]

So Joe likes quiet conformists. Huh? I don't like Johnny Manziel's chances of being drafted by the Dolphins.

 

[Hayden Fox]

This is true for any first-time head coach, no matter how he acts, since he has no past track record that would, in itself, make the players buy in. It's not like we hired Bill Cowher here.

Fair enough. I am just making the point that I want Joe to succeed and for that to happen, he needs some success early on.

 

[Shouright]

But when Philbin was asked by reporters if Incognito handled the situation the right way, Philbin responded: “That’s not for me to judge.” So why wouldn’t Philbin credit his player publicly? What does withholding public praise accomplish?

Although it may not be clear what this accomplishes, it's also not clear what harm it does, if any.

Do people really believe Richie Incognito's feelings about his standing in his head coach's eyes revolves around what the coach says to the media, rather than simply what he says to Incognito himself and in the presence of the rest of the team? If he praises Incognito in front of the entire team, does he really also need to praise him to the media? What, are these children who need some sort of "public" acceptance to get by?

 

[Irishfinfan1]

Makes it very difficult to recruit diva receivas, makes you think about the Packers receivers and none of them would be amazingly outspoken. I think to a degree he is approaching his players as his children and he wants to mould them into not just great players but great people that will represent the organisation well. Bottom line does it lead to long term success or make it more difficult, I'm not sure tbh, it does limit the players you can recruit but should lead to a more united team orientated locker room.
On the secrecy with the media there are quite a few coaches do that kind of thing, not sure if it is to create a siege mentality, is control freakery, what it is. Again does it increase or reduce our chance of success, probably neither.
Overall doesn't cause me too much concern.

 

[Wildbill3]

I'm not sure why there are snarky comments already, no one is heavily criticizing philbin. Just some observations and insight with some noted reservations.