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The First 18 Games

Dave Wannstedt 13-5 (previous Dolphins season was 9-7)
Don Shula 12-5-1 (previous Dolphins season was 3-10-1)
Jimmy Johnson 10-8 (previous Dolphins season was 9-7)
Nick Saban 9-9 (previous Dolphins season was 4-12)
George Wilson 4-14 (expansion)

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I'm pretty sure this one was already posted, but I found it interesting. Especially the part that says Chris would've had an 80 yard TD had the line given just anohter second.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/

One more quick Culpepper article. May have been posted, but oh well.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-spdolphins211sep21,0,7455427.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

I really like Daunte's attitude in this one.
 
That first article is great. I love how he emphasizes WE and the fact that 11 guys have to do their job, not just the 1 QB. And he reiterrated what I thought. Which is that not all of the blame is on Daunte. We cannot see the receivers and the coverage downfield while watching the game. We don't know what Daunte is seeing. And like Saban said, its hard to throw it downfield when people miss blocking assignments and he gets hit after 3 steps.
 
Aqua4Ever04 said:
I'm pretty sure this one was already posted, but I found it interesting. Especially the part that says Chris would've had an 80 yard TD had the line given just anohter second.
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Heck, CK could've told you that! And he did, too. Check out his article, it's a great read (as usual.)

Too bad the Culpepper haters are still out in force.
 
JG718 said:
wow really doesn't speak well for Saban to be .500 after 18 games.
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over their first 18 games.....
Wannstedts % was .72 from a previous .56....an increase of 16%

JJ took a .56 team and went .55 decrease of 1%

Saban took a .25 team and went .500 an increase of 25%

Of course the genius of the group was Shula
took a .25 team and improved it to .700... a 45% increase.

In the scheme of things, Saban doesnt look bad so far....except for the last 2 games of course.
 
aesop said:
And the first ten of last year...
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We did win 3 of those first 10... a .30 avg which is still better than the previous season's .25.

Besides, when inheriting a 4-12 team, a coach would be expected to struggle his first few games.
The team progressed throughout the year and of course ended the season 6-0.
However, the team now seems to have regressed a bit, in spite of a supposedly much better QB, former head coaches at both coordinator positions, and another training camp for the players to learn Saban's (and especially Houck's) systems.

As I said...Saban looks pretty good so far, including the 1st 10 games last season, but the 2 losses this year certainly isnt the way to keep it that way.
 
yankeehillbilly said:
We did win 3 of those first 10... a .30 avg which is still better than the previous season's .25.

Besides, when inheriting a 4-12 team, a coach would be expected to struggle his first few games.
The team progressed throughout the year and of course ended the season 6-0.
However, the team now seems to have regressed a bit, in spite of a supposedly much better QB, former head coaches at both coordinator positions, and another training camp for the players to learn Saban's (and especially Houck's) systems.

As I said...Saban looks pretty good so far, including the 1st 10 games last season, but the 2 losses this year certainly isnt the way to keep it that way.
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Winning thirty percent of your games with all the talent that there is on the Miami Dolphins is not even close to an accomplishment. The team that went 4-12 was not even close to as bad as their record, they were ruined with Ricky's early retirement and the fiasco that ensued afterwards. Then with all the injuries and turmoil, the coach resigning, everything... it all added up, but the talent wasn't subtracted until Saban got here. There was no reason to tear apart the framework of our defense and replace it with these fill-ins in the secondary.
 
aesop said:
Winning thirty percent of your games with all the talent that there is on the Miami Dolphins is not even close to an accomplishment. The team that went 4-12 was not even close to as bad as their record, they were ruined with Ricky's early retirement and the fiasco that ensued afterwards. Then with all the injuries and turmoil, the coach resigning, everything... it all added up, but the talent wasn't subtracted until Saban got here. There was no reason to tear apart the framework of our defense and replace it with these fill-ins in the secondary.
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Most Phin fans, myself included, tend to overestimate the talent on the team.
There are a few standouts, but overall we are not even close to having the talent we need. Not yet anyway.

And of course there was a reason. That framework of the defense was costing so much that we would never be able to afford anything else.
 
Let's understand that Saban is relatively new to HC in the NFL as well. He will learn from this and know what he needs to do to light a fire under these guys. How to game plan better every week, and get this thing headed in the right direction early rather than late. I feel he his going to be a great coach, He has had an unbelievable turnover in personnel and it will take time for it to all gel. 5-6 games.

If we can manage to win the next 2, putting us at .500 then hopefully the whole crew will be on the same page and this ship will be ready to sail full steam ahead. Week 5 is crucial,on the road in NE. If we leave there w/ a victory (having hopefully won against Tenn and Hou) Miami is 3-2 out of the gates and 1-1 in the Div. and 3-2 in the conf. Not real bad shape. The next week is @ NYJ and then home against GB. If they pull of the win over the Jets that puts Miami at 2-1 in the Div. and winning out til the bye would mean an impressive 5-2 . 4-2 in the conf.

We all should have been willing to reasonably accept 5-2 or at worse 4-3 at the bye. Really when you think about it, @ Pit, Buf (div foes always plays us tough), @ NE, and @ NYJ. Not an easy feat. 5 of the first 8 on the road. Then 3 of the next 8 at home.

That being said, if we lose this week, we have a very big hole in that sailing ship. A win is a must to keep us alive!
 
I have said it before but got bashed, the only reason Dave Wannstedt went 4-12 in 2004 was because his best player, his offensive focus, quit on the team a few weeks before the season.

I dont care what anyone says, had Williams played in 2004, the Dolphins would have been 9-7 or higher like always under DW.

Saban took over a good team, and even added VETs to it, got Ricky Williams back, but could only manage a 9-7 record. A 9-7 record which included a 20 point 4th quarter comeback by a backup QB and a win against NE's backups with a rookie QB. 9-7 team that won most of their games after being elimated from the playoffs.

Im sorry.

Many people make fun of the Patriots for the treatment they get from the media and so on, but Nick Saban is the same. He gets the same treatment. The only difference is, Saban hasnt won a single thing in the NFL.

His pain in the *** style only works if the team win, ask Tom Coughlin. I used to like Saban, but unlike Belichek, Saban is full of himself.

Bash me if you want, but It has nothing to do with me being a Bills fan, but everything to do with my unbiased opinion of Nick Saban.

Old saying goes, "be careful what you wish for" . Bills fans hated Wade Phillips because he acted dumb and didnt wear a headset. But we havent had a coach with a record over .500 since.
 
A 4-12 team is a 4-12 team. You can argue that we're were better than that... but we werent. Miami flat our sucked in 2004. If we were better.. than why didnt we win. Stop trying to make yourselves feel better... and justr accept it.
The 18 games... gee.. an article could come out every week if they wanted.... in other words.. not much coming out of Davie... lets look at the archives... Saban is a good coach.. it all depends on how impatient fans are. Purists will understand the process in building a strong team. and thats through the draft ultimately. we have alot of vets... that WILl be replaced through the draft.. but if we can squeeze a few more good years out of them.. then we're all better off.. This is a process... not a race to the best record within a certain number of games. As far as Im concerned... there is only one on that list with a superbowl...
 
aesop said:
Winning thirty percent of your games with all the talent that there is on the Miami Dolphins is not even close to an accomplishment. The team that went 4-12 was not even close to as bad as their record, they were ruined with Ricky's early retirement and the fiasco that ensued afterwards. Then with all the injuries and turmoil, the coach resigning, everything... it all added up, but the talent wasn't subtracted until Saban got here. There was no reason to tear apart the framework of our defense and replace it with these fill-ins in the secondary.
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“they were ruined with Ricky's early retirementâ€Â

That is the ONLY thing in your comment with any validity…Have you EVER heard of rebuilding a roster? Nearly EVERY new coach purges a roster and replaces them with his type players and Saban is no different. This roster, especially the secondary and LB’s have been infused with youth, although I’d like to see some more depth in the LB corps.


“There was no reason to tear apart the framework of our defense and replace it with these fill-ins in the secondary.â€Â

No???? Sam Madison had troubles with Saban’s scheme and couldn’t tackle worth a lick and is a bit long in tooth.

What has Sam Madison done in NY? 0 INT’s and a pass defense that has given up 616 passing yards in 2 games.

Pat Surtain and Sammy Knight in KC? 0 INT’s and a pass defense that has give up 293 yards in the 1st 2 games. Although respectable, in comparison to our “torn apart fill-in’s†in our secondary that has given up 262 yards in 2 games with 87 of those yards being one play.
 
it was not cpeps fault the oline was letting thre rush right in, the cb's were all over the dolphins routes, so daunte could only throw to the TE or RB or FB

the routes need to be changed, remember last year we did some quick slants and let the talent of chambers, welker and marty make the defenders miss to pick up some good yards?

we need to re work the offensive playcalling and exevution
 
You guys can bash Saban all you want to, like you bash any player or coach who you think you want to lay the blame on. I'll patiently wait for Saban to get his **** together, and expect good things. The glass may be 0-2 right now, but its half full, not half empty.
 
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